F80 Ferrari F80

[GTA45E]

It looks like some type of kit car, a knockoff. I can't believe I'm saying that about the ultimate Ferrari.

M

I agree; something about it is just a bit off. It lacks Ferrari purity in design work and certainly doesn`t look like its expensive asking price, IMO, at least for now. It will probably grow on me given a little time.

Ferrari nailed it with the 12 Cilindri with its classic themes and it looks expensive at the same time.
The F80 has some classic F40 80s-type design themes built into it, but it's not quite as successful as a Ferrari design package in my personal opinion.

 

[Bridster]

Seems even quieter than the 296... At best the same. Not that anyone expected anything different, I guess.

 

[slicknick]

We'll all miss that iconic NA V12 sound, though.

I mean, how much of a let down is it when even the new kids on the block (McLaren) sport a bigger engine than that of the Ferrari? Enzo would not have approved

 

[martinbo]

I mean, how much of a let down is it when even the new kids on the block (McLaren) sport a bigger engine than that of the Ferrari? Enzo would not have approved

Times change. The NA V12 has plateaued in specific output and packaging compatibility with modern engine accessories like electric turbocharging and hybrid add-ons. The 120 degree V6 with all of its performance enhancing accoutrements is surely the logical progression for Ferrari.

 

[Revvd]

Isn't it strange that the press release gives isolated downforce values for the rear wing in HDF configuration (180+ kg) and the diffuser (285 kg)? That would mean that there has to be other elements contributing towards those 588 kg of rear downforce (56% of the total of 1,050 kg).

If there wasn't anything else, then 465 kg on the real axle would point to total downforce of 830 kg @ 250 kph, using the same 56% split. That seems like a much more reasonable number.

 

[Rolf]

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The V6 in the F80 sounds muffled and muted, nowhere near as melodious as the V12 in the LaFerrari.

As for the car styling IRL, I like the rear and profile but the front bothers me. It has huge overhang and the squared off fenders near the intakes look really odd at some angles. Then the front sunglasses in between the headlights does look strange.

It looks really big on the road, maybe the squared off front and rear give the impression its extremely wide and long as well.

 

[Bucketslash11]

based on the sharp edge between the bumper and the fender i'm guessing the XX variant will have a front splitter like this:

 

[slicknick]

Times change. The NA V12 has plateaued in specific output and packaging compatibility with modern engine accessories like electric turbocharging and hybrid add-ons. The 120 degree V6 with all of its performance enhancing accoutrements is surely the logical progression for Ferrari.

While times do change, ferari has gone even more extreme in downsizing than even McLaren, and honestly I have my doubts on whether that power output (excl the hybrid drivetrain) from a 2.9L V6 will be any good in terms of reliability

 

[Tourbillon]

While times do change, ferari has gone even more extreme in downsizing than even McLaren, and honestly I have my doubts on whether that power output (excl the hybrid drivetrain) from a 2.9L V6 will be any good in terms of reliability

It's been proven at Le Mans.

 

[slicknick]

It's been proven at Le Mans.

Lemans cars are not used a few years though

 

[Rolf]

based on the sharp edge between the bumper and the fender i'm guessing the XX variant will have a front splitter like this:

It will be called the Snow Plow Ferrari lol

 

[SCOTT27]

I am sure Ferrari will accommodate if you throw another million on to the pile to have it sprayed the same colour as the bodywork.

 

[martinbo]

I am sure Ferrari will accommodate if you throw another million on to the pile to have it sprayed the same colour as the bodywork.

They wont. It's polycarbonate sprayed black from behind and they said they would not entertain any such requests. Take it or leave it.

They're all taken.

 

[klier]

It looks like some type of kit car, a knockoff. I can't believe I'm saying that about the ultimate Ferrari.

M

For me it's quite possibly getting worse every time I see it.

You could buy the car in black. The trouble is that it’s a Ferrari hyper car, you ideally want it in red.

On the contrary. The non red ones always end up being worth way more.

 

[klier]

We'll all miss that iconic NA V12 sound, though.

When they open the engine bay and show us the engine:

 

[Revvd]

...the XX variant will have a front splitter like this:

Is there gonna be one, though? It's one thing to have a heavy supercar for the road. But on track, where weight is everything, all the gimmicks would get exposed.
Even if you were to remove the battery and every single electric motor from F80, there's just no way you could ever hope to get close to ~1,030 kg (ready to drive) of a purpose-built racer that is the 499P Modificata. And given that these two share a track during the XX events, I don't see how they could co-exist in this space. To "compete" with that would be a very sobering and embarrassing experience for the F80XX drivers.

Also, this track-only segment has moved on a lot in the past 10 years. There's many cool cars: Valkyrie AMR Pro, Huayra R Evo, Solus GT, T.50s, RB17, P900; and even cooler clubs: RBR, Arte in Pista. A heavy Ferrari with DCT won't cut it anymore.
I feel like FXX-K Evo is the end of the line for road-derived XX models. These cars could get away with being on the heavy side, because the screaming V12 would make you forgive everything. A heavy V6 track car simply has no redeeming qualities like that. You'd be better off driving a 488 Modificata at that point.

For me, the next step is very obvious. To differentiate new XX models from the Modificata race cars, Ferrari needs to return to V12... and make the car light. The F80 monocoque can stay, but the rest needs to be bespoke and purpose built. That's how you make people bust out their bitcoin wallets.

When they open the engine bay and show us the engine:

At least it can be opened. Unlike the one on McLaren W1.

 

[kiki voinea]

Paying 5mil for this...

And having a Hyundai Ioniq 5N sounding better than it ( yes , with that fake sound )

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[Centurion]

Paying 5mil for this...

And having a Hyundai Ioniq 5N sounding better than it ( yes , with that fake sound )

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F80, Temerario, SF90, revuelto, W1 and all up and coming super and hyper cars will be quiet. Even the 12Cilidri, a NA 12 cylinder car is quieter than then predecessor.

Cars won't get louder.The EU is banning red lining in neutral, pops and bang engine maps, engine programming that dumps fuel into engine on over runs to cool turbos.

Optional sports exhaust on the RSQ8 is a joke. The cats are just a tiny bit smaller. No backbox modifications. The 992.2 GT3 now had to have 4 cats!

 

[Sunny]

About the V12, my take, as someone who can only fantasize about it, yes I would very much like it with a NA V12. But fact reality is, Ferrari sells other V12 cars and folks buying this will most definitely own 1/more of it. So, it is okay that F80 is about something else - the Lemans connection.
I am sure F40 too got flak in it's time for not having a V12, but now, it is one of the most celebrated of the big 5 (6 now).

F80, Temerario, SF90, revuelto, W1 and all up and coming super and hyper cars will be quiet. Even the 12Cilidri, a NA 12 cylinder car is quieter than then predecessor.

Cars won't get louder.The EU is banning red lining in neutral, pops and bang engine maps, engine programming that dumps fuel into engine on over runs to cool turbos.

More should do what 4RS does, quite outside, deafening inside . No rules against that. Yet!

 

[leylandi]

After the latest hypercars, the value of the AMG ONE will be better understood.