F80 Ferrari F80

[Beemer B773ER]

Fascinating how these two supercars are requiring such large front air intakes. You would think with all the scoops, and ducts and inlets all around the body it wouldn't really be necessary.

 

[Rolf]

0-200Km/h:

.....................................Rimac Nevera R: 4.38s
.........................................Rimac Nevera: 4.42s
..............................................Aspark Owl: 4.7s
..........................Hennessey Venom F5: 4.7s
................................Pininfarina Battista: 4.7s
..................................Bugatti Tourbillon: <5s
....................Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport: 5.5s
....................................Rimac Concept S: 5.6s
......................................Ferrari F80: 5.75s
................Bugatti Chiron Super Sport: 5.8s
.............................................McLaren W1: 5.8s
.................................................Lotus Evija: 5.9s
.................................Bugatti Centodieci: 6.1s
.............................Bugatti Chiron Sport: 6.1s
..............................Rimac Concept One: 6.2s
....................Porsche Taycan Turbo GT: 6.4s
..........................................Bugatti Chiron: 6.5s
.......................Ferrari SF90 XX Stradale: 6.5s
............................Hennessey Venom F5: 6.5s
....................................Koenigsegg Jesko: ??
...................................Koenigsegg One:1: 6.6s
.................................Koenigsegg Regera: 6.6s
...................................McLaren Speedtail: 6.6s
......Bugatti Veyron 16-4 Super Sport: 6.7s
..........................Bugatti Veyron Vitesse: 6.7s
..................Bugatti Veyron Supersport: 6.7s
..............................Ferrari SF90 Stradale: 6.7s
...........................Hennessey Venom GT: 6.7s
............................................McLaren Elva: 6.7s
..............................................McLaren P1: 6.8s
.......................................McLaren Senna: 6.8s
.............................................Zenvo TSR-S: 6.8s
.......................................Ferrari LaFerrari: 7.0s
........................................McLaren 765LT: 7.0s
.............................Mercedes-AMG One: 7.0s
Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse: 7.1s
...........................................McLaren 750S: 7.2s
................................Porsche 918 Spyder: 7.2s
................................Bugatti Veyron 16.4: 7.3s
.......................................Ferrari 488 Pista: 7.6s
...........................................McLaren 720S: 7.8s
..............................Ferrari 812 Superfast: 7.9s
..........................................Ferrari F12 TDF: 7.9s
....................................Ferrari Monza SP2: 7.9s

Lucid Air Sapphire - 6.2sec (as per figures in C&D Test)

 

[Moctecus]

F80: 787 PS / tonne (+150 PS / tonne)
W1: 911 PS / tonne (+274 PS / tonne)

From Ferrarichat

It's also worth looking at the difference in electric power and battery capacity:
F80: 2.28 kWh | 242kW
W1: 1.384 kWh | 255 kW
At full power that works out to 34 sec for the F80 vs. 19 sec for the W1.
The F80's front e-axle should also allow for more regen under braking. And directly eliminating turbo lag with the e-turbos is more efficient than using the MGU-K, freeing up energy to use for boosting peak power.

There isn't one in a car but Cosworth are running the engine on an engine dyno.

Here's one in a car running at Rimac's test track in Croatia and here are some photos from the same source. Tourbillon prototypes have been testing for months now, with the full powertrain. Just because Bugatti have only presented show cars so far doesn't mean it's all that exists.
“When it first ran, we all assumed it would take months to get ready for real vehicle testing, but within a week the car was running robustly at Bugatti’s test track in Croatia, and within about three weeks they were down at Nardò. I would say one of the big achievements was getting the engine and motors talking to each other, via the gearbox, and running so convincingly. It’s been a great piece of collaboration.” — Bruce Wood, Cosworth MD to Automotive Powertrain Technology

 

[Tourbillon]

Well, right or wrong, there's no evidence to that effect. You don't know, I don't know. But I'd be bloody surprised if there's a Cossie V16, driving through a transmission, running a prototype out there. I say the project isn't there yet. It's a guess. Nothing more.

It's a Ricardo Engineering Transmission. DCT. I was told.

 

[martinbo]

@Tourbillon, looks like my guess is somewhat off the mark based on @Moctecus post above.

 

[Sunny]

And directly eliminating turbo lag with the e-turbos is more efficient than using the MGU-K, freeing up energy to use for boosting peak power.

And if the E turbos are like the one on the 992 T Hybrid system, it would also regen energy from the excess boost pressure instead of wasting it via a waste gate.

 

[A.P.]

Can you black stripe haters try to put into words what bugs you so much about this element? I really don't understand the hate.

Spoiler: Also, here's some non-studio pics of the yellow car:

I can explain this with a single picture:

No sane man would look at this everyday without being freaked out or laughing.

 

[Tourbillon]

Also my post number 8888!

 

[Matski]

Also my post number 8888

Seems to be in the wrong thread though, this is the F80 tread.

 

[Tourbillon]

Seems to be in the wrong thread though, this is the F80 tread.

It was in reply to the "eyebrow" comment. Regardless~

Works on the Pininfarina Battista @A.P. right?

 

[Revvd]

I can explain this with a single picture:

No sane man would look at this everyday without being freaked out or laughing.

I'd argue this analogy works better. Either way, it only matters if you subconsciously want to f#ck the car.

 

[Matski]

 

[klier]

I'd argue this analogy works better. Either way, it only matters if you subconsciously want to f#ck the car.

Too many holes to pick from. I am confused.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Can you black stripe haters try to put into words what bugs you so much about this element? I really don't understand the hate.

Spoiler: Also, here's some non-studio pics of the yellow car:

Regarding the black strip, I'll give it a go why I am not terribly fond of it....

But first, I'll explain why they probably went with the black strip. The headlights. If one looks at the PSed/edited pics without the strip, the front looks odd with those massive headlight units. The strip really emphasizes a low and wide stance. Without it, lit looks too Diablo-esque.

That said, the black panel works on the 12 Cilindri because of the obvious inspiration from the 365 Daytona. Having a modern interpretation of a classic GT and harking back to it just works here. When the 12 Cilindri debuted, I wasn't entirely on board with it, now I am the more I look at it. Upon the 12C's debut I also suggested that they ought to have the black panel where comes off the inner sides of the headlight units at angle and then form a line of black trim as it comes to the centerline of the car. I don't think that would work in the 12C.

But I think it'd work on the F80. In fact, I think it'd work well since it can be an homage to the 288 GTO, F40, and F50 which had the black strip that ran along the entire length of the car.

 

[Gor134]

The strip really emphasizes a low and wide stance.

Strongly disagree.

The front end looks boxy and tall to me and the strip does nothing to create an illusion of a lower nose. It's nothing like the F40 which slopes all the way down.

 

[Centurion]

Regarding the black strip, I'll give it a go why I am not terribly fond of it....

But first, I'll explain why they probably went with the black strip. The headlights. If one looks at the PSed/edited pics without the strip, the front looks odd with those massive headlight units. The strip really emphasizes a low and wide stance. Without it, lit looks too Diablo-esque.

That said, the black panel works on the 12 Cilindri because of the obvious inspiration from the 365 Daytona. Having a modern interpretation of a classic GT and harking back to it just works here. When the 12 Cilindri debuted, I wasn't entirely on board with it, now I am the more I look at it. Upon the 12C's debut I also suggested that they ought to have the black panel where comes off the inner sides of the headlight units at angle and then form a line of black trim as it comes to the centerline of the car. I don't think that would work in the 12C.

But I think it'd work on the F80. In fact, I think it'd work well since it can be an homage to the 288 GTO, F40, and F50 which had the black strip that ran along the entire length of the car.

I get it now. The stripe conceals one of two big ducts for aero. On the F50 they are nostrils.

This is what aero and cooling looks like in the GT3rs.

 

[A.P.]

It was in reply to the "eyebrow" comment. Regardless~

Works on the Pininfarina Battista @A.P. right?

That's more like a mustache, below the eyes.

 

[Spet000]

Hear it from the horse's mouth: They use the black strips to create designs that 1) Doesn't have any facial expressions and 2) Looks like it's going through space.

That philosophy is going to carry over to the SF90 Replacement as well, according to rumors.

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[Jonathan19]

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[Revvd]

But I think it'd work on the F80. In fact, I think it'd work well since it can be an homage to the 288 GTO, F40, and F50 which had the black strip that ran along the entire length of the car.

The pop-up headlight Ferrari era is so much more radical than even this F80. Look at the 288 GTO... If Ferrari relocated their headlights to the bottom part of the bumper today, people would lose their mind.

Somewhere in an alternate reality, they've been using a black headlight stripe since the 80s (yes, this is edited).

Too many holes to pick from. I am confused.

Instructions unclear, dick crushed by the s-duct flap.