296 [2021-] Ferrari 296 Version Special and Special Aperta

[Jose Yanes]

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⬇ 422 kg at 250 kph ⬇

⬇ 430 kg at 250 kph ⬇

⬇ 435 kg at 250 kph ⬇

⬇ 489 kg at 250 kph ⬇

And if your reaction to this is to point out how the active Gurney flap makes all the difference, let me show you this gargantuan-Gurney representative from USA:

⬇170 kg at 250 kph ⬇

the difference is made by the floor. The 911 with its rear engine doesn`t have enough space for a good diffuser angle/length at the end of the floor, also the Sduct works differently cause the ferrari vents air from the underbody to the top vs the 911 which just vents the radiator through it. So I don´t think they´re lying about those numbers

 

[martinbo]

I like the Temerarrioriorarrriiio (fecken shite name) to a point. Styling's good but not earthshaking, especially when viewed against the visual impact that Gallardo and Huracan had upon their debuts. Looks-wise the new baby Lambo appears just a tad conservative and, dare say, generic.

The 296 in any guise is a more visually engaging design; it's cleaner, more flowing and far more elegant.

As for the powertrain, the most credible pundits have been praising the 120 deg V6 for its responsiveness, sound and outright power so only head-to-head evaluations will give more insight to which powertrain works best.

For me, give me any 296 in any version over Temerario.

 

[Centurion]

Maybe limited production time?

Only time limited. They are copying Porsche who has prioritised the production of GT cars over base cars. It's good the manufacturer as it increases the average revenue by car.

On the surface, supply looks constrained but Porsche dealers address this by not listing all their GT3 stock or cancelled orders. Instead they phone customers lower down the loyalty list and say "Hello, we value you as a customer, would you like a GT3?".

I will not be surprised if, over the next 2 years, Ferrari manufacturers more 296 speciale than the base car.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

10k RPM TT V8.

That sounds mute

 

[Jo_Sta7]

The non feminine looks, the mighty high revving V8



Which alone eclipses the V6 in the Ferrari in every possible way. And that is without mentioning the STO, which should be the natural rival of this Speciale.

So you criticized the 296 on a number of categories, all of which it bests the car you
chose to compare it to, and then switch to another metric as the end all be all of the comparison?

The weight comment definitely made me chuckle. The 296 speciale is really quite light at sub 3500 pounds wet, all things considered. The Tem will absolutely weight 4000+ pounds.

 

[Centurion]

The 296 speciale is really quite light at sub 3500 pounds wet, all things considered.

Mclaren and Ferrari have done well to minimise the wegiht impact of electric components or more cooling for toasty turbos.

 

[klier]

So you criticized the 296 on a number of categories, all of which it bests the car you
chose to compare it to, and then switch to another metric as the end all be all of the comparison?

I mean I envy you for living your best life, but the 720S and 296 wouldn't be my first choices here. Though the 296 is still f'ing hard to argue against.

I am very happy for you and your soon to be new Ferrari! And I wish you all the joy with it.

 

[A.P.]

That sounds mute

Not if you drive in first gear everyday.

From the prototype pressdrives it sounds way better and louder than 296.

 

[Revvd]

the difference is made by the floor. The 911 with its rear engine doesn`t have enough space for a good diffuser angle/length at the end of the floor, also the Sduct works differently cause the ferrari vents air from the underbody to the top vs the 911 which just vents the radiator through it. So I don´t think they´re lying about those numbers

Here, there's no rear diffuser to speak of either. Given its length, the diffuser bumper bit is there mostly to look good. And I seriously doubt the S-duct is all that powerful. Also keep in mind, the active Gurney flap on standard 296 GTB is responsible for 75% of rear axle downforce! Sounds kind of like an admission that the diffuser is barely doing anything, doesn't it?

In my mind, nearly every single Ferrari downforce claim is some 220 kg higher (at 250 kph) than what it should be. Telemetry numbers don't add up, and driver impressions also paint a certain picture. When Pininfarina tested P4/5 in their wind tunnel, it had very modest downforce while simultaneously claiming superior aero properties compared to Enzo it's based on.

My theory is that at one point Ferrari had a moment of embellishment, and ever since then they kept making the number go up - because that's naturally what marketing departments do. And now we're here, with ludicrous stats, led to believe they grow miraculous underfloors in Maranello. Customers, eager to impress their friends with cool new tech, will gobble it up. As I'm not an owner, I can't just suspend my disbelief like that.

 

[AndreB]

From the prototype pressdrives it sounds way better and louder than 296.

It should sound louder because its a Lambo, this is what owner want, but not everybody wants that, you get tired fast on long trips and a Ferrari should be more civilized.

However on paper the 296 is a better sports car.

 

[tristatez28lt1]

We know that the Italians (and also British) are a bit optimistic when it comes to on paper numbers such as weight and downforce.

 

[A.P.]

It should sound louder because its a Lambo, this is what owner want, but not everybody wants that, you get tired fast on long trips and a Ferrari should be more civilized.

However on paper the 296 is a better sports car.

Paper on paper comparison, Tem is actually better in every category with exception of weight and maybe price.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Paper on paper comparison, Tem is actually better in every category with exception of weight and maybe price.

based on your extensive real world experience?

 

[klier]

Not if you drive in first gear everyday.

From the prototype pressdrives it sounds way better and louder than 296.

We're listening to our crappy PC/phone speakers, so that doesn't help. But yeah from that POV the Temerario sounds eons better.

Looks far better too.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I find the Tem's exterior rather characterless and bland for a supercar, especially compared with the Revuelto, which has the brash flourishes that are very Lambo. I love me those curves and rear haunches on the 296; it looks like a Ferrari, and, save for the very interesting-looking 12Cilindri, might be the best looking Ferrari in the current line-up. I'd even wager to say that the 296 is the best looking entry mid-engine Ferrari since the 360 Modena. Compact proportions; simple, pure lines and details. The only exterior detail I don't like is how the front auxiliary light aligns with the main headlight unit. And that detail is something you have to really pay attention, but once you notice that, it'll annoy you.

The Tem does have an advantage when it comes to the interior ergonomics and powertrain since Ferrari's HMI just seems like a pain in the ass and the V8's high-revving nature adds a bit more supercar drama. That said, the Ferrari V6 makes some very pleasant noises and is no slouch either.

With regards to Speciale....I am loving this thing. It's not too over the top but is properly aggressive. I wish it was called Mugello instead of Speciale. That's my only gripe.

 

[A.P.]

based on your extensive real world experience?

That's why I said paper on paper comparison, not irl.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

That's why I said paper on paper comparison, not irl.

Tem is slower to 200, slower 100-200, 600 pounds more. It won’t touch a 296 Speciale.

I’m a big lambo fan. I’ve had 2 Aventadors. I think I’ll get a Revuelto at some point. The Tem is a flop. I don’t know a person who’s seen it who has anything positive to say about the design. And I have buddies with countach, Diablo, Murci, SVJ’s. Big big lambo buyers. They were so underwhelmed.

 

[Merc1]

I think that’s kinda the going sentiment here in pics too. The back in particular looks unfinished, especially at the rear wheels.

M

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I think that’s kinda the going sentiment here in pics too. The back in particular looks unfinished, especially at the rear wheels.

M

Imagine driving behind one in a rally, and the stones that will be kicked up.

 

[A.P.]

Tem is slower to 200, slower 100-200, 600 pounds more. It won’t touch a 296 Speciale.

I’m a big lambo fan. I’ve had 2 Aventadors. I think I’ll get a Revuelto at some point. The Tem is a flop. I don’t know a person who’s seen it who has anything positive to say about the design. And I have buddies with countach, Diablo, Murci, SVJ’s. Big big lambo buyers. They were so underwhelmed.

As has been the case since Gallardo and Huracan. "Oh it's not a real Lambo!"
"Oh it's an Audi R8!"
Yet both have become iconic and outsold the V12s by a huge margin. I see the same happening with Temerario with time. Plenty of people have positives to say about it, it only depends on where you look. Base model entry level Lamborghinis have always received criticism and skepticism when they launched, I see no difference here.

Where are you getting your 0-200 km/h for Temerario? It isn't quoted on their website. I know one journalist who quoted 7 sec for Temerario, as is listed for 296 Speciale.

Speaking of weight and Italians, at what point have they ever stated the true weight? Never. I guess they will be around 200-250 kg between each other.

Temerario has more power, higher revs, higher displacement, a V8, better interior, more practicality, faster 0-100 km/h, higher top speed, higher dry weight/power ratio, lower base price,
and arguably better customization and no restrictions in terms of color choices.

296 Speciale has less weight, higher torque, bigger battery, better EV range, smaller dimensions, likely will be more rare and comes with better tires.

Both use similar brakes (CCB) and transmission (8 speed DCT).

This is just paper on paper comparison. Website design goes to Lamborghini, because the one for 296 Speciale is ass and seems to not work properly. Another point is that this is base model vs special model comparison, not too different from LP560 vs 430 Scud days. It will be a while until Temerario Performante appears.

Looks wise, I prefer the 296 Speciale and 296 front. Side, top and rear goes to the Temerario.

There is also this secret AdPersonam option for Temerario in case people can't hold their distance and complain about stone chips in their windshields.