Europe scraps 2035 new ICE car sales ban

[Esp5]

Will it be possible to reduce emissions from combustion engine cars by 90%?

I assume they calculate an average across the entire fleet sold, as they do now, but it's still not entirely clear to me.

 

[Design FIRST]

Will it be possible to reduce emissions from combustion engine cars by 90%?

I assume they calculate an average across the entire fleet sold, as they do now, but it's still not entirely clear to me.

To me, this all appears to be little more than "window dressing" that does not significantly change the original stipulations and consequences of the 2035 new ICE car sales ban. Then again, maybe I'm missing something. It does appear a bit complicated to me and I couldn't say that "I get it". IMHO, they could have left the ban as it was. And again IMHO, 10 years should be more than sufficient time in getting the "infrastructual act together" as well as manufacturers making BEVs far more attractive as well as far more accessible to the broad motoring public. And I don't get money being invested in a technology (ICE) that will be destined to extinction as a primary automotive powertrain.

 

[Matski]

Will it be possible to reduce emissions from combustion engine cars by 90%?

I assume they calculate an average across the entire fleet sold, as they do now, but it's still not entirely clear to me.

Yeah, pretty much, it's a fleet average across an emissions pool (companies can pool together but mostly now it's just manufacturer groups)

For example, BMW's 2021 value (2021 is the datum that the reductions are measured against) is 114.743 grams CO2 (remember, this is actually simply calculated, not measured) To reduce that by 90% means hitting a target of 11.4g average across the range. For context, I think the closest ICE they offer now is the 530e which has specific emissions of 13 grams (though this is just because hybrids cheese the WLTP).

 

[SCOTT27]

Those protesting about the relaxation of the ban in the EU ripped off their bottle caps in anger.

 

[Big Sam]

Most of us know the farmer,YouTuber, journalist Harry Metcalfe.

In the last couple of years he run an I-pace, a X5 45e, a RR L405 P400e and a RRS L461 p510e.

Now he decided to take a different approach, and bought a Maserati Levante Trofeo.

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Harry Metcalfe it the last person I would use as a barometer for the progression of EV sales.

 

[KiwiRob]

Those protesting about the relaxation of the ban in the EU ripped off their bottle caps in anger.

Funny thing about the bottle caps when I was in NZ earlier this year I kept on losing bottle caps, made me change my opinion on attached caps.

The market is heading towards EV's the French have already worked this out and are producing EV's that are affordable, the problem is the Germans are living in the past and not looking towards the future, they don't make affordable EV's and are being left behind.

 

[Matski]

The market is heading towards EV's the French have already worked this out and are producing EV's that are affordable, the problem is the Germans are living in the past and not looking towards the future, they don't make affordable EV's and are being left behind.

VW outselling all the French brands combined, and VW, BMW, Mercedes and Audi all outselling the best selling French brand. Why would they switch their focus to affordability when the French have for a long time been the cheaper alternative in the lower segments?

 

[Rolf]

Will it be possible to reduce emissions from combustion engine cars by 90%?

I assume they calculate an average across the entire fleet sold, as they do now, but it's still not entirely clear to me.

Make all ICE cars Plug In Hybrids (PHEV) with at least 200km to 300km EV range will reduce the overall CO2 g/100km to 15g/100km or below. The current PHEV models from Audi, BMW, Mercedes and VW have emissions of approx. 25 to 70g CO2/100km with ranges of up to 143km for the Audi A3 e-TFSI (1.1 L/100km and 25g CO2/100km claimed).