Car and Driver - Porsche Panamera S vs. BMW 750i, Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT S


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Stimulus Packages: The startling new Porsche sedan goes toe-to-toe with a glamourous Italian and a businesslike German.

Exhibit A: The German sports-car maker’s bestselling vehicle since 2003 has been a sport-utility vehicle, the Cayenne. Exhibit B: The car before you, the company’s first production sedan, is a further hyperextension of the Porsche lineup. Exhibit C: The attempt by Porsche to take over Volkswagen resulted in a perfect reversal of fortunes: Volkswagen took over Porsche. At which point, Porsche boss Wendelin Wiedeking was hurried off the premises, replaced by his right-hand man, Michael Macht.

With the above in mind, you might think that Porsche is getting a little distracted, a bit off its game. Would the Panamera have the Porsche-ness—that magical sports-car sensitivity—to outdrive its increasingly fleet competition? That’s what we wanted to find out.

Its competitors are all European. Three Mercedes-Benzes would qualify for the job: the CLS63 AMG (same number of seats, similar dimensions—the car Wiedeking hoped to improve upon), the pricier S63 AMG (closer perhaps to the Panamera’s flagship, luxury-transport mission), and the E63 AMG wagon (same number of doors). But Mercedes begged off, skittish about pitting the aging CLS against this new Porsche. Complicating our selection process, a Mercedes S550 had recently been knocked off by a BMW 750Li, and the other logical competitor, the E63 wagon, may not even come to North America.

So we decided on two challengers for the new Porsche: a standard-wheelbase BMW 7-series and a Maserati Quattroporte. The Quattroporte got the invitation because we hadn’t had it in a comparo since one disposed of a Jaguar XJR and a Mercedes E55 AMG in 2004. Of three QP models, we chose the top Sport GT S because its 4.7-liter V-8 makes 433 horsepower, 37 more than a standard 4.2-liter Quattroporte, and it has the sportiest suspension. The Porsche and the BMW both make 400 horses.

We’d hoped to keep our entry-level Panamera reasonable—even $10,000 in options would have made it the least expensive car in the test—but, as usual, our rear-wheel-drive S model (base price: $90,775) was zooted up with more than $40,000 worth of options.

Still, the Maserati was the costliest, at $150,375. Our fully loaded BMW 750i checked in at $104,230, though it starts at $82,280.

We threw a six-pack of clean Jockeys and a stash of Altoids into a rucksack and jetted to Bavaria for a weeklong road bender. It’s fair to say we drove the spätzle out of these cars. Here is how they stack up.


First: 2010 Porsche Panamera S
Second: 2009 BMW 750i
Third: 2009 Maserati Quattroporte GT S



Car and Driver - Porsche Panamera S vs. BMW 750i, Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT S



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Car and Driver always does a true, instrumented, lots of miles together comparisons...

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Interesting comparison! However, 7er in not the same league as other two. I'd love to see how next M5 goes head-to-head with the Panamera! :usa7uh:

My choice;

1: Bmw 750i
2: Maserati Quattroporte Sport Gt-S
3: Porsche Panamera-S
 
The Matte wood in the 7 Series is fantastic. Same car as mine - except for the colours - so I can attest to it being a fantastic car as well. Kudos to Porsche for the win. What exactly were the criteria for this comparison, because as mentioned, I think the upcoming F10 M5 would be better suited to take on the Panamera.
 
Maserati's interior looks...well sh$t!

F01 compares very good in the looks dept, agressive low stance and sporty.

I cannot fault the Panny even though I would have the F01 myself...the Panny deserves all the accolades :t-cheers:
 
What? BMW and Driver tested the 750i against two non-BMW products and the BMW didn't win? Something is wrong here. Even if they compared a 318i against a Panamera Turbo the BMW would always win being cited as "more fun to drive" and "better handling" than a Panamera. :D j/k

In my opinion Car and Driver is only good for testing sports cars. I hate the way they test and treat luxury (and other) cars that are less sports focused as second-rate machines.
 
Oh, who would've thought ... Porsche winning over BMW in the driving dynamics 6 fun-to-drive category. Duh. What a "surprise".

It would be a disaster for Porsche if it didn't win.

BMW topping Porsche in those two categories would be a news. Porsche's victory isn't.
 
Oh, who would've thought ... Porsche winning over BMW in the driving dynamics 6 fun-to-drive category. Duh. What a "surprise".


You know, "fun-to-drive" is always a subjective issue. I'm sure that all of these cars tested are fun to drive in their own way. In fact it annoys me when car magazines rank such things as the fun-to-drive factor or design. These are nothing more than editor biases and opinions, not facts.

Up until now our ex-1996 Mitsubishi Pajero 2.5 Turbodiesel with a 0-100 km/h time of nearly 30 seconds was the most fun-to-drive car I've ever driven. It was slow as hell, but the car as a whole had character, felt wonderful to drive and was a joy in rough terrain. I'd like to see Car and Driver write a review about this car - they'll most likely criticize everything about it. "Needs a V8 with 500-hp, needs a 6-speed manual, needs a five turbos, needs a low final drive ratio for quicker acceleration bla bla bla..." :D
 
"Fun-to-drive" is usually a synonym for "driver's involvement when controlling a high-precise machine". Something reminiscent from a horse ride: fast, agile, nimble, strong, capable, powerful & controllable horse = fun to ride.

But to some "fun-to-drive" means "the-worst-nightmare" - since some don't won't such precise, capable, powerful & direct cars that allow limits where driver involvement is necessary. Some just like an automobile. An easy to operate machine. An A-to-B transporter. To them "fun-to-drive" means to be involved in driving as less as possible, and without any adrenaline shocks, and being far from the limits. So, to some "fun-to-drive" is when they engage Active Cruise Control wit Stop&Go - and enjoy the ride effortlessly listening to the Bach suites. :t-hands:
 
Up until now our ex-1996 Mitsubishi Pajero 2.5 Turbodiesel with a 0-100 km/h time of nearly 30 seconds was the most fun-to-drive car I've ever driven.


Oh....My....God.... (seriously! Oh my God!!!!) :pukeface:

As for the Panamera being more sporty than BMW's limo? What's new?
 
Oh, who would've thought ... Porsche winning over BMW in the driving dynamics 6 fun-to-drive category. Duh. What a "surprise".

It would be a disaster for Porsche if it didn't win.

BMW topping Porsche in those two categories would be a news. Porsche's victory isn't.
Correct, the Panny's victory is expected and deserved!
 
Here is the test data from Autobild.de with the same cars.

Messwerte BMW Maserati Porsche
Beschleunigung
0–50 km/h 2,2 s 2,1 s 2,0 s
0–80 km/h 4,2 s 3,8 s 3,6 s
0–100 km/h 5,5 s 5,2 s 5,0 s
0–130 km/h 8,5 s 8,1 s 7,9 s
0–160 km/h 11,9 s 11,5 s 11,8 s
0–200 km/h 18,3 s 18,7 s 19,1 s
Viertelmeile
0–402,34 m 13,84 s 13,46 s 13,46 s
Zwischenspurt
60–100 km/h 2,8 s 2,8 s 2,8 s
80–120 km/h 3,5 s 3,5 s 3,2 s
Höchstgeschwindigkeit
Herstellerangabe 250 km/h (abger.) 285 km/h 283 km/h
Bremsweg
100–0 km/h kalt (Verzögerung) 36,1 m (–10,7 m/s²) 35,6 m (–10,9 m/s²) 33,4 m (–11,6 m/s²)
100–0 km/h warm (Verzögerung) 36,4 m (–10,6 m/s²) 35,2 m (–11,0 m/s²) 35,0 m (–11,4 m/s²)
200–0 km/h warm (Verzögerung) 144,3 m (–10,7 m/s²) 143,4 m (–10,8 m/s²) 139,2 m (–11,1 m/s²)
Testverbrauch
Ø auf 100 km 13,3 l Super Plus 17,5 l Super 13,1 l Super Plus
Reichweite 620 km 510 km 610 km
Leergewicht 2087 kg 2072 kg 1918 kg



Surprizingly, Panamera S and 750i sport package are comparable in price (BMW:91.600 Euro Vs Porsche:94.575 Euro) while the Masa costs 133.310 Euro.

If you browse through the photos, I think the Panny looks even better than Masa/BMW from street back shots IMO.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/test-sport-limousinen_1129593.html?bild=20&now=62#mmg
 
The panny has probably sent Maserati back to the draving board. It's a true game changer forcing the 4porte to greatly improve itself if it is to remain competative. Currently it is overpriced and slow.
 

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