Hot! BMW Vision iNEXT

[martinbo]

Please be advised that I have deleted the posts with these pics out of politeness to a request from BMW via via. Apparently they've been leaked and it's a problem.
It's a sensitive issue so please understand that until I've conferred with Admin I'm going to play it safe.

 

[nikola1984]

 

[martinbo]

Sorry BMW. Those pics are now freely available in the public domain.

Note to members: please see posts on previous page for the Vision iNext high-quality images.

 

[Der Hofmeister]

I like it very much - very solid-loooking, very nimble. I like it how it stands true to the BMW i brand philosophy, while evenly progressing it to the next level. This is the SAC of the future.

However, I am not very fond of the big screen and its installation on the dashboard, but that is the trend. Otherwise, the cabin looks very pleasant.

 

[EnI]

To everybody!

This is still very much A VISION, a design excercise. Not even a proper Concept!

So, please have that in mind. But you are getting the general idea what kind of a vehicle the iNext will be.

 

[Centurion]

The green house mirrors the shape of the kidney grill. It's cool but cost prohibitive to transfer to a production car.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

I find it a consolation that the A-pillar bases are not visually anchored almost directly over the hubs of the front axle (**cough** M-B EQ-S, I fear). The car actually has a (relatively) proper hood. I like that.

 

[klugscheisser87]

Less is more... and sad that the sentence has nothing to do with BMW anymore. The greenhouse hurts to look at. The design is very banal and bussy at the same time. Their I-brand concepts are something that they cannot manage since the I Vision Dynamics.

 

[Matski]

and make me put my money where my mouth is to reduce manufacturer risk.

I'm not sure what you meant by this line? The issue with the mainstream manufacturers is not one of being able to fund the development cost, or in believing there is a market for it. It's in delivering a commercially viable short, medium and long term solution, and that requires them to be able to deliver similar profits per unit as they do for their existing line-up. Teslas business model has fallen apart - they cannot deliver on Musk's promise of a genuine $35,000 contender as it's not been viable, and the kind of manufacturing techniques Musk cited for being responsible for being able to offer that in the first place have devolved into manually staffed production tents.... you cannot call that the kind of progress from "a leader" that should be emulated by any other sane manufacturer. BMW have a plan, I would suggest it's one they've deemed as commercially viable, and I have no doubt they'll see it through.

edited because I'm struggling to English correctly again.

 

[gdm]

LEXUS style,not bad.

 

[EnI]

I'm not sure what you meant by this line? The issue with the mainstream manufacturers is not one of being able to fund the development cost, or in believing there is a market for it. It's in delivering a commercial viable short, medi...

Exactly. The aim still is to - now after the BMW i sub-brand has been established - generate same profit margins in the long run as in the case of every BMW vehicle. The business plan is set to be very sustainable. And that's what almost every legacy carmaker is doing. They are NOT start-ups. They have to provide business plans that work, are profitable & are sustainable. Tesla is a different animal.

Also, not every market is the same. Some are very BEV & PHEV savvy , some still aren't. And won't be for decades. For various reasons. Therefore for legacy carmakers - especially bigger ones, with strong global presence - it's essential to provide proper product mix to cater ALL their markets.

Legacy carmakers will soon provide 48V mild-hybrid systems in every model. A wide range of PHEV models, and plenty of BEVs. Eg. in 2025 - that's one vehicle generation or life-cycle away - the situation regarding vehicle electrification will be completely different & much more ripe. In the meantime the electric grids will be updated; a lot more public charging stations will be available etc. It's a process. In the mean time early runners like Tesla, Renault, Nissan etc will have some advantage. Also mind BMW has also been an early runner: BMW i3 is there. And it's selling well - for what it is. Again: Tesla is a different animal, running under different circumstances. Legacy carmakers can't afford over-night system disruption. The transition has to be carefully planned & financially & business wise sustainable! They are not in a position to burn money like Tesla does. Stable performance is key for the legacy carmakers.

Vehicle electrification race is a marathon, not a sprint. Being first at start does not mean you'll last to the finish (and finish first). But it's important to be there. BMW i3 is already there - new 120mAh battery is coming next year. MINI E is coming. iX3 in 2020. i4 and i6 (?; iNext) in 2021 - and then additional 7 BEV models from BMW Group by 2025 - and even more later.

In the meantime Tesla will have an advantage - mass producing BEVs; having it's own & established charging station grd etc. But be sure others will catch up. Perhaps Tesla will stay a leader for decades but there will be room for all. Just like it is in the case of ICEVs - there are a lot of luxury, premium and economy & even budget brands & products out there and they all have their own pool of customers. It will be the same with BEVs - even if Tesla will remain the tech leader, offering the best products.

 

[Centurion]

Exactly. The aim still is to - now after the BMW i sub-brand has been established - generate same profit margins in the long run as in the case of every BMW vehicle.

If their next model is a traditional 5 door model then it should do better than the niche i8 and somewhat small i3. A sub-brand will still be purposeful for testing new design language and interior packaging. Adventurous customers will be drawn in while traditionalists still have the choice of BEV versions of traditional BMW models.

 

[klier]

Pretty spectacular. The interior is LOL worthy though....the whole back is wrapped in some kind of '80s velours

And it indeed is more X2 than X6.

 

[SCOTT27]

Pretty spectacular. The interior is LOL worthy though....the whole back is wrapped in some kind of '80s velours

And it indeed is more X2 than X6.

Interactive Velour surfaces. Takes personalisation to a new level.
As I said on there on Sunday the ideas conceived with the RFK project back in the mid-2000s before that morphed into the 5er GT.
The Genes of that sportier R-Klasse(Remember that?) concept can be seen here.
Forgot to ask if they will show it in Paris?

 

[klier]

Will they?

 

[fortuner]

Huge flat screen I don't read any complains or hate LOL..

 

[manuelf]

Huge flat screen I don't read any complains or hate LOL..

So you did not read @Der Hofmeister 's posting? He did complain

 

[fortuner]

So you did not read @Der Hofmeister 's posting? He did complain

Thanks missed that post...
And the Rest LOL...

 

[SCOTT27]

Exactly. The aim still is to - now after the BMW i sub-brand has been established - generate same profit margins in the long run as in the case of every BMW vehicle. The business plan is set to be very sustainable. And that's what almost eve...

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Thanks missed that post...
And the Rest LOL...

The dashboard has the charm of a vendor machine. Maybe they were short of time to design it correctly.