M1 BMW is preparing the M1 Hommage concept for production

[conan_55]

Eni, Scott, what gives? I too, thought it will never be in production? But Car has always been accurate with their insider sources.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/S...ictures/BMW-supercar-stars-in-CARs-new-issue/

BMW is preparing the M1 Hommage concept for production, the new issue of CAR reveals. ‘We have the know-how, we have the right engine, we even have the infrastructure to build such a car,’ vows BMW board member Herbert Diess. The supercar was shot exclusively for CAR, and following interviews with BMW executives, our July issue reveals key project details including:

• The timetable for production
• The three-strong powertrain line-up
• The lightweight body construction
• The plan for ‘heron-wing’ doors, and a driver-focused, multi-layered interior
• And why BMW’s new supercar won’t be called M1

Read the story in the July issue of CAR, on sale Wednesday 28 May. And let us know if you think BMW needs this rival to the Audi R8 by voting in our online poll, which you’ll find on the bottom right of CAR’s homepage.

 

[conan_55]

and I found another insider info backing it up from another forum :

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20?? BMW M1, BMW are in the early stages of development on this model. To keep this model as secret as possible BMW has been planning this model to be built along side there F1 cars at Sauber's headquaters. This model will use a carbon fiber monocoque chassis, ith aluminum and magnesium subframes. Power will come from either a twin-turbo direct injection 5.5 liter V-10 producing as much as 700 BHP, or a even more extreme version of the twin-turbo M3 4.4 liter engine producing 650 BHP form it's enlarged engine, which is said to be about 5.1 liters. This carbon fiber monocoque will likely show up on another model : This is not a supercar that is coming to market, but I figured that everyone needs to hear about. I believe everyone knows that Rolls-Royce has been planning a land-speed record challenging car. As I have heard it, this car will be powered by a twin-turbo version of the EX100's 9.0 liter V-16, that will produce 1000 BHP, at the rear-wheel. The power will be sent to the rear-wheels via a 7 speed F1 transmission. This cars carbon fiber monocoque chassis that it will share with BMW's Sauber developed M1 supercar. I would personally like to say that a car like this would be great to see production.

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Scott, EnI, pls find out more...this is exciting.

 

[SCOTT27]

Umm. No we are not , actually .
If we did it would not be with this specification. The PS (I have greater than you) output war is over , The better quest is now to offer performance with better fuel efficiency.

 

[EnI]

CAR was closer with their story on BMW ultra-green eco-supercar.

This M1 revival tale is pure nonsense.

 

[martinbo]

and I found another insider info backing it up from another forum :

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20?? BMW M1, BMW are in the early stages of development on this model. To keep this model as secret as possible BMW has been planning this model to be built along side there F1 cars at Sauber's headquaters. This model will use a carbon fiber monocoque chassis, ith aluminum and magnesium subframes. Power will come from either a twin-turbo direct injection 5.5 liter V-10 producing as much as 700 BHP, or a even more extreme version of the twin-turbo M3 4.4 liter engine producing 650 BHP form it's enlarged engine, which is said to be about 5.1 liters.

F&%k me! Who'd have thought that the M3 was powered by a twin-turbo 4.4 litre V8? - No wonder it's so fast!

This carbon fiber monocoque will likely show up on another model : This is not a supercar that is coming to market, but I figured that everyone needs to hear about. I believe everyone knows that Rolls-Royce has been planning a land-speed record challenging car. As I have heard it, this car will be powered by a twin-turbo version of the EX100's 9.0 liter V-16, that will produce 1000 BHP, at the rear-wheel. The power will be sent to the rear-wheels via a 7 speed F1 transmission. This cars carbon fiber monocoque chassis that it will share with BMW's Sauber developed M1 supercar. I would personally like to say that a car like this would be great to see production.

Yeah that Rolls-Royce landspeed record challenging car:
Veyron? Bah... Thrust SSC watch out! Andy Green is coming out of retirement too!

Seven speed F1 transmission eh? A gearbox that's designed to handle no more than 350 Nm in a twin-turbo'd Roller?

Biggest bulldust post I've read in a looong time.

 

[KokkenTor]

From Leftlanenews:


"BMW M1 Hommage concept headed for production
May27


BMW resurrected the spirit of its M1 with the recent unveiling of the M1 Hommage concept, and it looks as though the Bavarian supercar is once again headed to production, a new report finds. A time frame for the reborn M1 has yet to be announced, but a few other details have been revealed.

In an interview with Car magazine, BMW board member Herbert Diess revealed that the M1 Hommage concept will indeed make production. "We have the know-how, we have the right engine, we even have the infrastructure to build such a car," he said.

Despite Diess spilling the beans to Car, the British magazine is saving the goods for its July 2008 issue. However, Car's online site did reveal a little bit about the upcoming model.

Although the M1 Hommage concept has a strong connection to the M1 BMW produced between 1978 and 1981, the road-going version of the concept will not wear the M1 nameplate. A mid-engine setup will be part of the equation but, unlike the original, three engine choices will be available — presumably of the six, eight and ten-cylinder variety.

The production car will also sport ‘heron-wing’ doors and a driver-focused interior.

The July issue should hit newsstands in the U.S. later this week."

BMW M1 Hommage concept headed for production

 

[SCOTT27]

You have no idea how this "diversion" severely disrupted my schedule today in order to officially deny this .
Saying "No Comment" means you have something to hide. But I guess my comment as "utter crap" will actually deflate some enthusiasts and the media from shouting from roof top to roof top.

Just as we have upset our fellow compatriots in Stuttgart with the M3 Cabrio (E93) Campaign. apparently really , really upset them according to industry rumours. Guess we wont be working together then...

 

[nutsaboutcars]

Scott 27 - Having just bought the latest edition of CAR magazine they are directly quoting senior BMW management with regards to production possibilities for the M1 (or whatever it would be called). This is not gossip and rumour speculation. CAR are usually pretty accurate with regards to industry news and the fact that so much of this issue is around the M1 and production intent leads me to believe that BMW do intend to further develop the concept for production.

The article also refers to "two and four door" versions of the CS Concept which I can only assume means the z8/9 roadster and 8 series 4 door correct?

 

[SKY]

Scott 27 - Having just bought the latest edition of CAR magazine they are directly quoting senior BMW management with regards to production possibilities for the M1 (or whatever it would be called). This is not gossip and rumour speculation. CAR are usually pretty accurate with regards to industry news and the fact that so much of this issue is around the M1 and production intent leads me to believe that BMW do intend to further develop the concept for production.

The article also refers to "two and four door" versions of the CS Concept which I can only assume means the z8/9 roadster and 8 series 4 door correct?

I am thinking in that. Concept CS with four doors, the 8er, and the Cs with 2 doors, the new Z8.

 

[SCOTT27]

Scott 27 - Having just bought the latest edition of CAR magazine they are directly quoting senior BMW management with regards to production possibilities for the M1 (or whatever it would be called). This is not gossip and rumour speculation. CAR are usually pretty accurate with regards to industry news and the fact that so much of this issue is around the M1 and production intent leads me to believe that BMW do intend to further develop the concept for production.

The article also refers to "two and four door" versions of the CS Concept which I can only assume means the z8/9 roadster and 8 series 4 door correct?

I spoke to my superiors in length this afternoon inbetween new MINI Concept work and 7er. and these comments are taken out of context of other topics. As I said before if such a car would become a production reality , although there is a history factor with the previous M1. There is a consensus that it is not a route to be seen going down that Audi (We know what they are doing because we are doing it) claims an advantage that we followed them into this market when in reality we do not need this car for our image. The quotes on infrastructure , construction etc are quotes taken from other BMW projects , whilst the reality is there is infrastructure to build this car , the greater reality now is to concentrate on further environmental studies such as the BMW "i" project. Which could get a MINI twin (Not a Smart) As for Image we are already there but certain projects the CS and the Rolls-Royce RR4 will be greater for us in the long term.


By the time the 6er is replaced in 2011 - Every BMW model will be equipped with "Efficient Dynamics" technology and not just from where everything is today. There are far more enterprising contributions to todays ED tech which is undergoing testing for future introduction. BMW want to relate to the image of such hybrids but think out the box to what they should be : With Driving pleasure and design not sacrifced in the face of common sense.

If such a car would be on the cards then it will be an "Efficient Dynamics" technological showcase , not what people are expecting. Now that ED is officially established the plan is to continue forward and offer "Groundbreaking" contributions to each segment , Following another manufacturer just for image is not expected. Delivering something that does everything you expect and everything else you dont is what BMW are pioneering through upcoming projects - People many Baulk at the X6 , X1 and the PAS models but they will be groundbreaking without sacrificing what BMW is all about. Same as recent topics relate to the future of M-Division. again there is reservation but the outcome is very exciting and bodes an enticing approach to the next generation of M-Cars.

The future will be everything you expect and everything you dont - which in there lies the mystery and the debate .

 

[south]

I have said that before. For a car that never ever will make it into production Scott knows quite well what it would be like...


Best regards, south

 

[conan_55]

When this goes into production, some of the BMW experts bashing this topic would've to eat their hats.. & some topics will be rendered useless.. like the super long one bout why BMW never need a supercar? Well they're planning one very seriously.. go get the Car UK mag, very interesting

 

[EnI]

That CAR article is the biggest BS ever seen. Really.


There will be no retro-styled mid-engined M1-like supercar from BMW.


What can be expected is a hybrid "super car" ... after hybrid tech finally enters into F1 racing, when BMW also plan to win the championship due their advantage in the F1 hybrid tech know-how. The hybrid super coupe will be a tribute to BMW's success in F1.


All future BMW plans are focused on EfficientDynamics. Even the most sporty & racing cars will be all about ED.

 

[klier]

^ lol

 

[Choleric]

I moved all that mumbo jumbo about advertising to a new thread, http://www.germancarforum.com/internal-combustion/24675-antagonistic-adevertising.html, since it had nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[SCOTT27]

When this goes into production, some of the BMW experts bashing this topic would've to eat their hats.. & some topics will be rendered useless.. like the super long one bout why BMW never need a supercar? Well they're planning one very seriously.. go get the Car UK mag, very interesting

Having been curious about this article I asked my assistant to get my copy.
When it gets to the last paragraph it more than confirms what I have been saying, The Showcase for Efficient Dynamics , either with Hydrogen Power - meaning zero emissions (Very ambitious for BMW) . Or equpped with Active Hybrid dual power.

Also interesting to read that they believe BMW to be hurting over the R8. Make it clear now that we are not - Our time will come but now the priorities lie with our Efficient Dynamics programme and at cutting our C02 level and that includes the next generation of M-cars. Which are going to offer some interesting advancements with "Efficient Dynamics"

The advent of a hybrid F1 car will lay the foundations of where we want to go and what we want to do but as of now the segment is getting crowded again when everybody has had the fifteen minutes of fame then we will show our cards. Dynamic, Radical , Efficient, Lightweight and different is what BMW want to push forward not the PS output straight in your face.

Such articles seem to suggest and when pushed further by the media that we are clueless when it comes to strategy on what we should do but right now we are quarter way on the path we took with the "BMW premium market Strategy" when introduced as the business plan after the collapse and sell off of Rover under BMW.

Expansion of product was the first step BMW's design status (Controversial to the media) was the second,
And now we are on the third -Efficient Dynamics. The fourth will be environment expansion products with the BMW "i" strategy ( we know who we want to work with and who we dont) which could either be a BMW ,spawn a mini MINI to expand that brand. Or launch a new brand.
Then Rolls-Royce has an interesting expansion plan. Under RR04 will spawn a Coupe , Drophead Cabrio and a superclasse CS type four door Coupe.
Even more ambitious times for BMW lie ahead - A four door Roadster entitled Z6 could get green lighted as could a Shooting Brake of the CS production car titled "Progressive Activity Coupe" .

 

[Osnabrueck]

I must have been really busy a couple months back because I totally missed the M1 Hommage. The only reason I found out is because I found the latest issue of Automobile magazine lying around the office.

The BMW design squad have really been cranking it out as of late. I'm surprised at what a departure this M1 concept is from BMW's "adjenda." It's truly a surprise, and shows what a rich pool of ideas are bouncing around the halls of BMW DesignWorks.

 

[Bartek S.]

No Audi R8 competitor coming from BMW



It's a sign of the times. After having rolled out the delectable M1 Hommage concept (pictured above), one BMW board member says that the Bavarian automaker has no intention of producing a supercar to compete with the likes of the Audi R8. Instead, BMW will focus on green technologies.
The news comes straight from Klaus Draeger, the board member at the helm of the EfficientDymanics initiative. While Audi continues to produce more powerful and more desirable versions of the R8, Mercedes prepares entirely new supercars and Porsche continues to do what Porsche has always done, the company that once hailed itself as the producers of the "Ultimate Driving Machine" is more concerned with hybrids than sportscars.
autoblog

 

[martinbo]

While Audi continues to produce more powerful and more desirable versions of the R8, Mercedes prepares entirely new supercars and Porsche continues to do what Porsche has always done, the company that once hailed itself as the producers of the "Ultimate Driving Machine" is more concerned with hybrids than sportscars.

Whilst I don't completely subscribe to the above train of thought, I do find the comment to be insightfully humourous.

 

[speed_kills]

He made a mistake, it's not hybrid, it's Trucks, SUV. BMW products for hardcore fans are dying