Z Series BMW E89 Z4 Test Drives Thread


The BMW Z models are a line of roadsters manufactured by German automaker BMW. The Z stands for Zukunft (German for future), and has been produced in four different series with six generations consisting of roadster, coupé, sports car, and concept variants. The introduction of the M Coupé and M Roadster in the Z3 line marked the first of the Z series to have a high-performance BMW M variant. The first generation Z4 also continued to offer M Coupé and M Roadster variants. The current Z4 (G29) uses BMW's (B58B30) inline-six, its platform is the basis for the current Toyota Supra.
That list doesn't count for the 'core' models 1er, 3er, 5er and 7er. They become lighter, will always have RWD, and become increasingly efficient :)

That is right, I'll have to go for the most basic models in order to find some of that lost BMW magic! :D

Why not apply that philosphy for the more exciting models?
 
Until recently, BMW only was those 'basic' models, so I do not see the problem.
The X family and the Z4 are the only other cars, and the X family is SUV-like, so AWD and more weight isn't that strange for them. No more 'exiting models' from BMW. When they start making them, be sure they'll have RWD and weigh not much :)
 
Until recently, BMW only was those 'basic' models, so I do not see the problem.

But why no special models of the 1-series coupe, Z4 and M3 (the interesting cars from BMW today)? The base models are all in place and they are all one step behind the competition.
 
EVO Car Reviews: BMW Z4 sDrive 35i

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The Z4 has been reborn as a folding hard-top. We drive the twin-turbo dual-clutch flagship

There’s another Z4 following me. It’s about 100 yards astern, sometimes closer, sometimes further back, but there or thereabouts. We’re having a spritely dice, him and me, a pair of metallic beige darts arrowing through the hills north of Alicante. The sun’s up and pinky blossom from the olive groves is being sucked along in our wake, giving the scene an almost dream-like, fairytale quality. Reality intrudes regularly in the aural assault of squealing tyres, but that’s fine because my fairy godmother has ensured I shall have a ball – the view ahead features neither slower traffic nor straights.

But on this eerily quiet and ridiculously twisty stretch of tarmac, it’s what’s happening behind rather than in front that has me so absorbed. Everything I can feel my Z4 do is exactly replicated a few seconds later when I watch in the mirrors as my partner in crime tackles the corner I’ve just vacated. And what I can see is the Z4 pushing its nose wide past the apex and then squatting under power, finding so much traction that the nose lifts, carrying understeer on to the next straight. Hmm, not quite what I expected.

Later that day, I find out why. Firstly there’s the press pack, which mentions that the ‘Z4 is aimed at a wider market than the outgoing model due to its greater functionality and higher levels of space and comfort’. Then there’s the press conference, full of references to the extra cabin stowage and 40 per cent improved visibility. Finally I speak to Wolfgang Nehse, the man responsible for drivetrain development, who tells me that ‘what we have learned from customers is that the [previous] Z4 was too hard, too stiff’.

Well, the secondary ride certainly was, but BMW has learned a lot about run-flat tyres since then. Condense all the information, read between the lines and it’s hard to come to any other conclusion than the new Z4 is no longer gunning for the Porsche Boxster – instead it’s squaring up to the Mercedes SLK. Uh-oh.
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I'd say that the BMW 130i and then the 135i and all its variants are indeed an answer to the enthusiasts.

Mike

...and I would say not even close. They are to a certain extent, but they are far from the enthusiasts vehicles we have grown accusomed to from BMW.
 
EVO said:
Well, the secondary ride certainly was, but BMW has learned a lot about run-flat tyres since then. Condense all the information, read between the lines and it’s hard to come to any other conclusion than the new Z4 is no longer gunning for the Porsche Boxster – instead it’s squaring up to the Mercedes SLK. Uh-oh.

They should offer as many diesels as possible for the Z4, it seems more suited for comfort.

Z4 sDrive35d - great stuff!
 
They should offer as many diesels as possible for the Z4, it seems more suited for comfort.

Z4 sDrive35d - great stuff!

Wow!! A diesel would be absolutely stunning…:bowdown: Long distance sports car!! Fits perfect to the character of the 6-series and would also fit perfect in here…
 
Just this week a Z4 appeared in my neighbor's parking spot (I suspect that he's an auto journalist) - The car is ridiculously good looking. As good as this car looks in photos, in person the aesthetic power of this car is brought to a new level.

I'll put it this way - If this car was a six-figure pseudoexotic, like a Z8, people would gladly be parting with their money. It's that good.

I can't believe how irrationally bad I want this car based on looks alone.
 
Car and Driver - 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive30i - First Drive Review

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BMW’s saucy non-turbo roadster pushes the envelope of
entry-level.



You don’t have to twist our arms very far to get us to write about roadsters, particularly those of German descent. This explains why we have composed three separate drive stories on the slick new 2009 BMW Z4 since March. All of that coverage, however, focused on the flagship Z4 sDrive35i, whose 300-hp, twin-turbocharged six-cylinder makes it the most powerful Z4 not to wear an M badge. However, it does have an M-like price: at $52,475 to start, and knocking on the door of $70K fully loaded, the 2009 Z4 sDrive35i is startlingly expensive.

Enter the Z4 sDrive30i, the so-called entry-level Z4, which lacks the turbocharged punch of the sDrive35i, but is virtually identical in most other respects, including the chic sheetmetal, two-piece retractable hardtop, high-brow luxury accoutrements, and basic chassis tuning. Furthermore, it gets better fuel economy and starts at $46,575. So the $5900 question was: would we miss the turbos when they’re gone?

We admit to not being overly optimistic about the cheaper Z4, since our sDrive35i drives taught us to expect curious body motions, spiritless electric steering, and, most egregious of all, a very un-BMW sense of disconnection between driver and road due to the seats being situated less than a foot ahead of the rear axle. And with more than an extra 200 pounds to lug around compared with the previous model, thanks to the new retractable hardtop and its supporting structures, the Z4 sDrive30i had some sports-car mettle to prove.

Every Car Should Have a Base Engine This Good

The little roadster certainly has the right stuff under the hood. As far as “base” engines go, they don’t get any better than BMW’s prolific, free-breathing, 3.0-liter inline-six that pumps out 255 hp and 220 lb-ft of torque. It’s the same basic engine found under the hoods of many much-heavier Bimmers, including the 1800-lb meatier X5. But the Z4 represents a particularly intimate setting for it, allowing the driver to savor the linear crescendo of power as the revs climb, accompanied by the engine’s distinct, buzz-saw rrrriiiiiiiiip that sounds especially strident from the helm, thanks to the proximity to the exhaust tips.

Of course, the Z4 is quicker with the turbos—we hit 60 mph in 4.8 seconds in each of our sDrive35i testers—but with slightly less weight to move, the sDrive30i roadster still can gather speed right swiftly; BMW’s estimated 0–60-mph times of 5.6 seconds for the stick model and 6.0 with the six-speed automatic seem entirely believable, if not a touch conservative. Top speed is governed to 130 mph, which is raised to 150 with the optional Sport package. Meanwhile, at saner speeds, fuel economy is excellent, with the sDrive30i expected to achieve 19 mpg in the city and at least 28 mpg on the highway.

We also found happiness in the manual transmission, which is blessed with BMW’s trademark snickety-snick operation. The optional six-speed traditional automatic ($1325) is a suitably sporty match for the engine. Shifts range from imperceptibly relaxed in Drive mode to assertive and snappy in Sport and Manual modes, complete with rev-matched manual downshifts. Indeed, the only way BMW could improve the automatic transmission would be to replace it with the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox offered—for just $1525—on the sDrive35i.

Adaptive Suspension versus Imaginary Body Roll

We also sampled the optional Sport Package, which includes 18-inch wheels, sport seats, and BMW’s nifty “Adaptive M Suspension,” with Normal, Sport, and Sport Plus settings. Left in its default mode, the Z4’s chassis absorbs impacts gracefully, though perhaps too thoroughly to allow meaningful communication between road and driver. Leave it there when the curves tighten up, and get ready to watch the Z4’s bobbing nose hurtle and lift from side to side, with the suspension allowing the inside wheels to stretch into yoga-like extensions.

Selecting Sport tells the Z4 to get serious, firming up the adjustable shocks, dialing up throttle response, adjusting the level of electric steering assist, relaxing the stability-control parameters—and, on automatic-equipped Z4s—quickening shifts and raising shift points. The Sport Plus setting presents the sharpest and most nanny-free mode, though we didn’t notice such an improvement in body control that the uncomfortably calcified ride quality was offset.

Comfort à La Carte

As the weekdays passed and we grew accustomed to the unusual dynamics, our appreciation for the newfound space and comfort inside the Z4 grew. With the exception of cabin upholstery (the 30i gets leatherette while the 35i gets “Kansas” leather), the standard and optional equipment lists are virtually identical between base and uplevel Z4’s. As is typical of BMW, the Z4 comes standard with just enough trimmings to make occupants as comfortable as they’d be in, say, a Volkswagen Passat. But to approach true luxury, one should budget for extras.

But then, that’s still significantly less than a similarly outfitted Porsche Boxster, which would certainly drive better but wouldn’t be able to touch the Z4’s combination of all-weather security and genuine sense of occasion. People are taken aback when they find out that the elegant roadster they’re ogling is a Z4, and more than one person we showed it to mistook it for the legendary Z8, which was by no means an insult. And while we have yet to warm up to its handling behavior, the Z4 has an engine that makes us tingle and styling that makes us proud. Even in base form.


2009 BMW Z4 sDrive30i - First Drive Review/Droptop Depot/Car Shopping/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver


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C&D said:
But then, that’s still significantly less than a similarly outfitted Porsche Boxster, which would certainly drive better but wouldn’t be able to touch the Z4’s combination of all-weather security and genuine sense of occasion.

What is this "all-weather security", I keep seeing that is American reviews of cars with folding hardtop. Is it actually raining knives over there, or what?
 
^Lol, i don't know myself either...:t-hands:

It would be nice to have some of those above pics in HR, especially this one:

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:icondrool:icondrool

:t-cheers:
 
...and I would say not even close. They are to a certain extent, but they are far from the enthusiasts vehicles we have grown accusomed to from BMW.


Why is that?

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It all started with the 2002 tii and then the 323i, to become 325, 328, etc I'd say the 3 series empersonated the enthusiasts' vehicles we have grown accustomed to, along with of course the M models and many other models with other qualities.

Factoring in how heavier all cars became, the 135i takes that flagship by being an overly powered car marketed as a non-M in a toned down 120i body. Excatly BMW. With an excellent engine and driving pleasure and dynamics. It's a bit uglier, but it's forgiven due to the initiative and idea.

Mike
 
^ Quite right, but please lets keep it about the Z4 now! :D

Those pics posted by Merc1 look mindblowing :icondrool
 
It all started with the 2002 tii and then the 323i, to become 325, 328, etc I'd say the 3 series empersonated the enthusiasts' vehicles we have grown accustomed to, along with of course the M models and many other models with other qualities.

If you take that point-of-view, I agree. The 135i is maybe somewhat an E30 325 of today.
 
Autocar - BMW Z4 sDrive23i

This is the new BMW Z4 sDrive23i, now fitted with a folding hard top instead of a fabric roof. BMW is up-front about the reason for this: the Mercedes SLK has one too and BMW’s research suggests that it costs the Z4 sales.

On first impressions, though, the previous Z4’s character seems to have survived the change of roof. The new car is more accommodating – it’s a smidge wider but over 120mm longer – yet feels similarly minimalist and driver-focused inside. Material quality is good, although without iDrive a rather obvious dash-top cubby bluntly reminds buyers that they didn’t delve too far into the options list.

What’s it like?

Our first UK steer in the Z4 is in the sDrive23i, the range-starter and powered by a 2.5-litre straight six. It’s a free-spinning unit and revs happily to 7000rpm, though it’s not without some inertia.

When mated to the six-speed manual ’box of our test car, with its solid and precise but heavy shift, it doesn’t make for easy rev-matching when blipping downshifts. The noise it makes is refined and smooth more than aurally stimulating, but it still feels like an impressive drivetrain.

Dynamically the Z4 is on the ‘pretty good’ rather than ‘outstanding’ side of things. All Z4 flavours come as standard with 17-inch wheels, with bigger sizes optional, and with Dynamic Drive Control, with which one can choose between three settings of, well, sportiness, I suppose.

However, even on our test car’s standard 17-inchers and in DDC’s normal mode, the ride could get a little harsh over poor surfaces, with slightly loose body control. Moving through Sport and Sport+, things get both tighter and harsher, coupled to a sharper throttle and weightier steering.

Like its predecessor, the new Z4 has an electrically assisted power steering set-up, and it could use more linearity just off straight ahead. The very first few degrees do too little, the next few too much.

Once on lock it becomes more alive and precise, though. Then the Z4 reveals its inherent fine balance and poise, and starts to become a proper driver’s tool.

Should I buy one?

The BMW Z4 is good, but it hints at its dynamic talents too infrequently for the package to be wholly convincing.


BMW Z4 sDrive23i - Road Test First Drive - Autocar.co.uk


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Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, abbreviated as BMW is a German multinational manufacturer of luxury vehicles and motorcycles headquartered in Munich, Bavaria, Germany. The company was founded in 1916 as a manufacturer of aircraft engines, which it produced from 1917 to 1918 and again from 1933 to 1945.
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