Hot! BMW AG: What's Next

[bmwblog]

@bmwblog with all this talk about NK concepts for 2023, do you know if there is any concept for this year?

Something interesting, I mean

Nothing this year

 

[Jacke]

I suppose this is the i4M or something else?

 

[leylandi]

I suppose this is the i4M or something else?

All-electric high-performance from BMW M

The future begins in the anniversary year: BMW M is opening the next chapter in its transformation towards electric mobility. With the first test drives of a concept test vehicle for innovative drive and chassis control systems, an unprecedented level of performance and experience is becoming...

www.bmw-m.com

 

[manuelf]

Exactly ... seems to be the BEV performance test vehicle from BMW M with 4 e-motors - one per wheel - and a supposed system power of > 1000hp ...

 

[klier]

That M BEV car has different cladding. I don't know if that means this is a different car being tested or just the same with old school non colored camo. Probably the latter.

Exactly ... seems to be the BEV performance test vehicle from BMW M with 4 e-motors - one per wheel - and a supposed system power of > 1000hp ...

Crazy as it sounds......1000 hp is the bare minimum for an M BEV. Particularly for one with 4 (!!!!!) motors. Anything less is an automatic let down.
AFAIK the Lucid Air has 'only' 3 motors with like 1200 hp.

Right now we're at the point where a random KIA BEV has almost as much power as the most powerful BMW engine ever made.

 

[SKY]

Didn’t we have reports a few years back of a super M2 EV with 1,000 PS?

 

[klier]

Didn’t we have reports a few years back of a super M2 EV with 1,000 PS?

Sure did, not even that long. I read about it several times last year if I remember correctly.

Fair to say, this is that car. Won't be related to the M2 though clearly.

 

[Mars1965]

Here is an interview with Dirk Häcker about the car.
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/magazine-article-pool/dirk-haecker-interview-bmw-m-electrified.html

 

[manuelf]

Didn’t we have reports a few years back of a super M2 EV with 1,000 PS?

If you read the Interview with Dirk Häcker (which by the way has already been linked by @leylandi), you get, that the presented test mule based on the i4M50 is already the 2nd iteration/generation of the high perf M BEV. The first gen (code name Katharina) was based on an M2 chassis.

 

[dalab]

Official presentation XM September 27

Official presentation M2 October 12

Official presentation 3.0 CSL hommage for November / December?

Last months of the year more than interesting, the XM so soon is a pleasant surprise although we already have a pretty clear idea after the concept etc.

The first "big surprise" model would be the 5 series, I think in early 2023? does anyone know when?

*GCF site browser disappeared?

 

[dalab]

The ALPINA mystery is revealed and clearly points to where I supposed...

“There is space between the top of BMW at €200,000-€220,000 and the bottom of Rolls-Royce, which starts at around €350,000.”

ALPINA To Focus On Luxury, Bridge Gap Between BMW And Rolls-Royce

BMW’s Vice President, Head of Series Luxury Class, Christian Tschurtschenthaler, says ALPINA models won't get any sportier, but will be more luxurious.

www.bmwblog.com

 

[leylandi]

BMW wants to achieve its luxury sales success in Alpina, which it could not achieve in the main brand.

 

[bmwblog]

Official presentation XM September 27

Official presentation M2 October 12

Official presentation 3.0 CSL hommage for November / December?

Last months of the year more than interesting, the XM so soon is a pleasant surprise although we already have a pretty clear idea after the concept etc.

The first "big surprise" model would be the 5 series, I think in early 2023? does anyone know when?

*GCF site browser disappeared?

No 5 Series unveil this year. Stay tuned on 3.0

 

[Matski]

The ALPINA mystery is revealed and clearly points to where I supposed...

“There is space between the top of BMW at €200,000-€220,000 and the bottom of Rolls-Royce, which starts at around €350,000.”

I find this slightly sad. The Alpina's I love are the BMW's that BMW wouldn't build - the more it becomes a trim level, the less appealing it is to me - it might work, like Maybach 2.0 worked as a trim level for Mercedes (as opposed to the more unique cars that flopped), but cars like the B6S, the B10 Bi-Turbo, the B8 4.6, the B7 Turbo E24's and E28's... to me they're legendary icons not because some label was applied to a uplift the margin, but because they did what BMW was doing, but in a different way.

 

[Sunny]

No 5 Series unveil this year. Stay tuned on 3.0

Do you know when M3 CS will be revealed?

 

[dalab]

I find this slightly sad. The Alpina's I love are the BMW's that BMW wouldn't build - the more it becomes a trim level, the less appealing it is to me - it might work, like Maybach 2.0 worked as a trim level for Mercedes (as opposed to the more unique cars that flopped), but cars like the B6S, the B10 Bi-Turbo, the B8 4.6, the B7 Turbo E24's and E28's... to me they're legendary icons not because some label was applied to a uplift the margin, but because they did what BMW was doing, but in a different way.

I agree, but I don't think they will change that, but rather taking advantage of it and enhancing it (who knows how).

After what they did with Rolls and Mini and with almost everything they touch I have a tremendous intrigue with this

 

[klier]

BMW wants to achieve its luxury sales success in Alpina, which it could not achieve in the main brand.

Troll alert!!!!

 

[SKY]

Troll alert!!!!

A tiresome alert. All weeks the same. Just ban him from BMW threads, honestly.

 

[EnI]

The ALPINA mystery is revealed and clearly points to where I supposed...

“There is space between the top of BMW at €200,000-€220,000 and the bottom of Rolls-Royce, which starts at around €350,000.”

ALPINA To Focus On Luxury, Bridge Gap Between BMW And Rolls-Royce

BMW’s Vice President, Head of Series Luxury Class, Christian Tschurtschenthaler, says ALPINA models won't get any sportier, but will be more luxurious.

www.bmwblog.com

Yes.

BMW are planning to make ALPINA what Maybach is to MB, and Horsch is to Audi: luxo-versions of top-end models.

The next 8er, the next X7, and the 7er LCI will probably be the first models to get ALPINA luxo-versions sometimes in 2026 or later.

I guess the upcoming new B5 / D5 will be the last ALPINA as we know it.

 

[Giannis]

Yes.

BMW are planning to make ALPINA what Maybach is to MB, and Horsch is to Audi: luxo-versions of top-end models.

So what Alpina before BMW acquired them, then?