5 Series BMW 5 Series GT (aka PAS) - spy pics & info
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The BMW 5 Series is an executive car manufactured and marketed by BMW since 1972. The car is sold as either a sedan or, since 1991, a station wagon (marketed as "Touring"). A 5-door fastback (marketed as "Gran Turismo") was sold between 2009 and 2017. Each successive generation has been given an internal G-code designation since 2017. Previously, a F-code designation was used between 2010 and 2016, while an E-code designation was used between 1972 and 2010. These are used to distinguish each model and generation from each other.
Ralfd
Tarmac Traveler
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Here are some details from the AutoBild article :
- PAS is based on next 5 Touring (F11, start June 2010)
- Pricing of PAS close to X6
- AWD optional
- Interior : 'Business Class' on the 'Autobahn' , individual and multi-adjustable backseats , modular center console with multiple entertainment options (in the back)
- no suizide doors (too expensive & 'trademark' of RR)
- Wheelbase 3m (between standard and long 7 series ?)
- rear legroom comparable to RR Phantom
- overall length 4.85m
- 6 cm higher than 5 Touring
- bigger wheels
- Driving characteristics equal to new 5 series- best in segment
- additional Efficient Dynamics features
- no V8 diesel
- new 8 gear automatic from ZF with integrated start/stop function
Source : autobild
Here are some details from the AutoBild article :
- PAS is based on next 5 Touring (F11, start June 2010)
- Pricing of PAS close to X6
- AWD optional
- Interior : 'Business Class' on the 'Autobahn' , individual and multi-adjustable backseats , modular center console with multiple entertainment options (in the back)
- no suizide doors (too expensive & 'trademark' of RR)
- Wheelbase 3m (between standard and long 7 series ?)
- rear legroom comparable to RR Phantom
- overall length 4.85m
- 6 cm higher than 5 Touring
- bigger wheels
- Driving characteristics equal to new 5 series- best in segment
- additional Efficient Dynamics features
- no V8 diesel
- new 8 gear automatic from ZF with integrated start/stop function
Source : autobild
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
I must say, if the info Ralfd translated from AutoBild is correct (thanks BTW), I'm very interested in this car. At times I do need more space than my sedan offers (eg. transporting my dog), but I could never bring myself to buy a touring. Something about a station wagon look that is very off-putting. Now a 5 series fastback is something that could look interesting (in a good way
). Not to mention the higher ground clearance would help in my metro area where potholes and high bumpers reign supreme. The new X6 does look sexy but I'd bet this PAS is significantly lighter and therefore a far better handling car.
I must say, if the info Ralfd translated from AutoBild is correct (thanks BTW), I'm very interested in this car. At times I do need more space than my sedan offers (eg. transporting my dog), but I could never bring myself to buy a touring. Something about a station wagon look that is very off-putting. Now a 5 series fastback is something that could look interesting (in a good way
). Not to mention the higher ground clearance would help in my metro area where potholes and high bumpers reign supreme. The new X6 does look sexy but I'd bet this PAS is significantly lighter and therefore a far better handling car.
Ralfd
Tarmac Traveler
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Now the recent article from AutoBild mentioned above is online:
autobild.de - Erlkönige - Die Raum-Klasse von BMW
Now the recent article from AutoBild mentioned above is online:
autobild.de - Erlkönige - Die Raum-Klasse von BMW
bmer
Tire Trailblazer
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
When things start to look bad I always take a look at this thread: http://www.germancarforum.com/pit-general-discussion/7555-when-huckfeldt-dead-wrong.html
If Huck is spot on as usual then
When things start to look bad I always take a look at this thread
: http://www.germancarforum.com/pit-general-discussion/7555-when-huckfeldt-dead-wrong.html
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
According to AutoBild, the new APS will be a real fat-ass with a base weight starting at no less than 1900kg! Have in mind that the car is “only” 4,85m long and 6cm taller than a 5-series …….
Engine program from start:
3.0si 306hk/400Nm
4.0si 408hk/600Nm
3.0d 245hk/550Nm
3.0sd 300hk/650Nm
According to AutoBild, the new APS will be a real fat-ass with a base weight starting at no less than 1900kg! Have in mind that the car is “only” 4,85m long and 6cm taller than a 5-series …….
Engine program from start:
3.0si 306hk/400Nm
4.0si 408hk/600Nm
3.0d 245hk/550Nm
3.0sd 300hk/650Nm
PanterroR
Lap Time Luminary
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Wait a second! 3.0sd with 300hp and 650Nm???
When is the update of that engine scheduled? For which MY?
Wait a second! 3.0sd with 300hp and 650Nm???
When is the update of that engine scheduled? For which MY?
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Don't trust AutoBild in all their information about upcoming models. My guess for next upgrade of the 3.0sd engine is 300hp and 600Nm, maybe for model year 2009 or 2010?
Wait a second! 3.0sd with 300hp and 650Nm???
When is the update of that engine scheduled? For which MY?
Don't trust AutoBild in all their information about upcoming models. My guess for next upgrade of the 3.0sd engine is 300hp and 600Nm, maybe for model year 2009 or 2010?
PanterroR
Lap Time Luminary
EnI
Piston Pioneer
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
So, R-class SWB dimensions vs PAS dimensions:
PAS will be at least 100kg lighter
PAS will be a bit shorter (5 - 10 cm = 2 - 4 inches)
wheelbase will be almost identical
width will be very similar
but ...
PAS will be about 10 cm (~ 4 inches) lower than R-class!!!
So, R-class SWB dimensions vs PAS dimensions:
PAS will be at least 100kg lighter
PAS will be a bit shorter (5 - 10 cm = 2 - 4 inches)
wheelbase will be almost identical
width will be very similar
but ...
PAS will be about 10 cm (~ 4 inches) lower than R-class!!!
Ralfd
Tarmac Traveler
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
I just saw the current issue of german car magazine 'Auto Motor und Sport' on the newsstand....Didn't bother to buy it....
Here is a link to the cover, showing a cgi of the F5/F6 :
Heft- auto motor und sport Heft 22/2007 - auto motor und sport
Inside the magazine they show it also from the back...the cgi of the back matches very closely the X6 (design of roofline and rearlights)...they probably made a copy and paste...
I just saw the current issue of german car magazine 'Auto Motor und Sport' on the newsstand....Didn't bother to buy it....
Here is a link to the cover, showing a cgi of the F5/F6 :
Heft- auto motor und sport Heft 22/2007 - auto motor und sport
Inside the magazine they show it also from the back...the cgi of the back matches very closely the X6 (design of roofline and rearlights)...they probably made a copy and paste...
Ralfd
Tarmac Traveler
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Just my speculation based on Eni's info, that we shouldn't be so sure about the '5' ...and considering it will be positioned above the 5 series
We'll see...Or maybe the PAS will be called F5, while the PAC 
will be called F6. (pure speculation)
Just my speculation based on Eni's info, that we shouldn't be so sure about the '5' ...and considering it will be positioned above the 5 series
We'll see...Or maybe the PAS will be called F5, while the PAC
will be called F6. (pure speculation)
bmer
Tire Trailblazer
Re: BMW F5 Progressive Activity Sedan - spy pics & info
Ssshhhh....
I have a secret spy pic of the PAC on the Ring!
Here it is:
while the PAC
Ssshhhh....
I have a secret spy pic of the PAC on the Ring!Here it is:
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