BMW 1-Series Coupe Official Press Release

[Maximus Decimus]

So in the pics and videos that we're seeing, I think that's the M-pac. Where is the M wheel, knob, footrest, and door sills? Haven't seen any pics of that yet.

Interesting that the M pac doesn't include foglights... Are they available as an option? Will the M pac have shadowline trim available? I wonder why the delay on Alpine white?

 

[EnI]

So in the pics and videos that we're seeing, I think that's the M-pac. Where is the M wheel, knob, footrest, and door sills? Haven't seen any pics of that yet.

Interesting that the M pac doesn't include foglights... Are they available as an option? Will the M pac have shadowline trim available? I wonder why the delay on Alpine white?

Press pics & videos show 135i in Sedona Red color.

Standard 135i features kind a special yet standard Performance package including: M-sport chassis with special setting, ultra-performance brakes, ultra-performance throttle setting, DSC+ functions, EDL, M-Sport aerodynamic body kit, chromed exterior trim, chromed kidney grill bars, sports seats, sports steering wheel.

While the ordering guide says regular M-Sport package is optional & analog to hatch M-Sport package (incl. M-Sport chassis settings, M-sport aerodynamic body kit, M-sport sport steering wheel, M-sport stick, sports seats & all the regular M-Sport interior & exterior trims eg. Shadow Line, Anthracite, M-logos, etc) .

Regarding foglights: standard 135i comes without them. They are even not mentioned as an option. While eg. hatch specific M-Sport package includes fog lights ... so if it is really analog ...

So - I guess - if you order M-Sport package with 135i you only get interior & exterior M Sport trim + M Rims extra on standard 135i package.

I also guess "no-fog-lights" feature is 135i specific due a need for a larger air intake (for engine & brakes cooling).

Regarding Alpine White delay: I have no idea.

 

[Maximus Decimus]

I'm confused. The UK press release gave me the feeling that the 135i come standard w/ the M-sport pkg. See copy and paste below.

The BMW 120d Coupé will be available in ES, SE and M Sport guises, while the 123d Coupé will be offered in SE and M Sport and the 135i Coupé just as an M Sport. M Sport raises the specification bar by including 17-inch light alloy wheels on the 120d and 123d Coupé but unique 18-inch light alloy wheels on the 135i Coupé, M Aerodynamic package, M Sports suspension, Sports seats, High-gloss Shadowline exterior trim, M leather steering wheel, M designation door sills and Anthracite headlining.

The 135i I see in the photos have the chrome exterior trim and and the interior pics don't have M anything. Funny thing is I tried to go to a dealer here yesterday and I forgot I wasn't in the US anymore, got there around 3 something in the afternoon (15:00), they'd been closed for 2 hours.

I prefer the more understated look of the shadowline trim.

And I love the look of the 1 series M sport knob. Hopefully its nicely weighted. I like that it doesn't look cool or hot to the touch in bad weather.

 

[BMW M]

High-res? High-res!

 

[BMW M]

Second part:

 

[wltsm]

I am starting to warm to this car, I'm sure seeing one in black, or a nice blue will make me like it even more!

 

[Mii]

all three models come with 6-speed manual gearbox standard & Braking Energy Regeneraton & Active Aerodynamics & Optimal Gear Display & Servotronic steering
6-speed automatic available from 03/08

Is M-DCT (DSG) type tranny going to be available in the later production after 3/08? Perhaps on M1? If M-DCT is available for 135i, it should bring 0-62mph in 5.0 sec range.

 

[south]

I know you guys are saying this, but I can't believe that there's coming an M1 within the next couple of years.
To me the 135i looks already like the "almost an M"-Version of the 1 Coupe (just like last generation X5 4.8is was).
M aerodynamics, M suspension, gourney flap, no fog lights, LSD "light"...
I could only imagine that there may be an M1 with a LCI in about four years...but how long will this car based on E87/82 be built?

Best regards, south

 

[Devon K]

New here, nice forum!

These new high-res PR photos of the coupe ameliorate some of my concerns about the new design I've discussed on bmwaddicts, but not all of them - and they add a few of their own. Problem areas with the 1 coupe as I see it:

The front lights - the total light area exceeds that needed for the high and low beam headlamps by far too much on the outer edges. I know room is needed for the turn signals, but compare to the 335i coupe, where this extra area is smaller and much better proportioned. The end result in the 1 coupe is a weird bugeyed look that detracts from the car's attempts to appear aggressive.

The rear lip spoiler - this is a tacky, cheesy add-on that looks like it was ported over from a late-90's Hyundai Elantra with a "sport" package. Shame on BMW for going cheap and not molding this lip into the trunk lid.

The roofline - look, BMW, we all know the back seats are totally useless for anyone over 5' tall due to the 2" of knee room back there, so let's stop playing pretend, forget about providing headroom to accomodate a 6 footer in the back and give us a nice sloping roofline like the 3 coupe has, instead of this domed bulge that belongs on a sedan and detracts seriously from the 1's sports-oriented look.

Wheels - the very open design of the rims would be great - if we didn't have to look at those honking-big brake rotors behind them. The shine from those rotors totally destroys the appeal of the rims here. The high visibility of the rotors together with the tacked-on spoiler give the car a Euro-ricer look which is really at variance with BMW's design direction. Hopefully there will be an option for wheels with better rotor coverage.​

 

[onehots2k]

New here, nice forum!


These new high-res PR photos of the coupe ameliorate some of my concerns about the new design I've discussed on bmwaddicts, but not all of them - and they add a few of their own. Problem areas with the 1 coupe as I see it:

The front lights - the total light area exceeds that needed for the high and low beam headlamps by far too much on the outer edges. I know room is needed for the turn signals, but compare to the 335i coupe, where this extra area is smaller and much better proportioned. The end result in the 1 coupe is a weird bugeyed look that detracts from the car's attempts to appear aggressive.​

The rear lip spoiler - this is a tacky, cheesy add-on that looks like it was ported over from a late-90's Hyundai Elantra with a "sport" package. Shame on BMW for going cheap and not molding this lip into the trunk lid.​

The roofline - look, BMW, we all know the back seats are totally useless for anyone over 5' tall due to the 2" of knee room back there, so let's stop playing pretend, forget about providing headroom to accomodate a 6 footer in the back and give us a nice sloping roofline like the 3 coupe has, instead of this domed bulge that belongs on a sedan and detracts seriously from the 1's sports-oriented look.​

Wheels - the very open design of the rims would be great - if we didn't have to look at those honking-big brake rotors behind them. The shine from those rotors totally destroys the appeal of the rims here. The high visibility of the rotors together with the tacked-on spoiler give the car a Euro-ricer look which is really at variance with BMW's design direction. Hopefully there will be an option for wheels with better rotor coverage.​

Dont let him get your all wound up. He does the same and says the same on 1addicts. com He's posted about 30 times and just ALL of them are negative. I can respect someones opinion but when you make it your mission to hop from forum to forum and say how ugly something is.(especially when the majority dont mind it)

Just a warning.

Anyways, does anybody know the weight of this car in pounds. Without the driver???

 

[klier]

Thanks for the warning man, but I think everyone here is entitled to give his opinion here, as long as it's done in a civilised way.

Off course, most here will disagree strongly with Devon. I personally stopped reading at '...late-90's Hyundai Elantra'

The weight for the 135i is out of my head 1560 kg including a 67 kg driver and a 90% fuel tank and 7 kg of luggage.

I am starting to warm to this car, I'm sure seeing one in black, or a nice blue will make me like it even more!

Didn't I tell you so???

 

[Nikos120i]

More pics of the 123d Coupe now in black and w/out the M-Pack...

Meet the other twin turbo 1-series coupe - Picture Gallery - Autocar.co.uk

I prefer the 135i and the M-Pack in le mans blue I have to say...

 

[onehots2k]

More pics of the 123d Coupe now in black and w/out the M-Pack...

Meet the other twin turbo 1-series coupe - Picture Gallery - Autocar.co.uk

I prefer the 135i and the M-Pack in le mans blue I have to say...

Oh noo. That car dosent look flattering in black. With the chrome-line, a lowered suspension and some better wheels it would look much better. I think I just described the 135i. Looks like it'll be white for me.

 

[BMW M]

Anyways, does anybody know the weight of this car in pounds. Without the driver???

120d: 3025 lbs
123d: 3124 lbs
135i: 3267 lbs

 

[Centurion]

More pics of the 123d Coupe now in black and w/out the M-Pack...

Meet the other twin turbo 1-series coupe - Picture Gallery - Autocar.co.uk

I prefer the 135i and the M-Pack in le mans blue I have to say...

Looks pretty bland without the M-package, which is probably the reason why the car int he press pictures is equipped with the package.

 

[Osnabrueck]

Prices (German market - incl 19% VAT):

120d: €28,750 ....... (eg. 120d 3dr: €26,800; 320d coupe: €35,600; 320d sedan: €32,000)
123d: €32,500 ........ (eg. 325d coupe (197PS): €38,100; 325d sedan (197PS): €35,250)
135i : €38,950 ........ (eg. 130i 3dr: €35,300 - incl M-package; 335i coupe: €44,650; 335i sedan: €40,800)

Looks like I was more or less correct about pricing - in fact I was being too optimistic. The difference in price between a 135i and a 335i is just €6,000.

Given that, who in their right mind would opt for the 135i when you could get the 3er equivilent for a €6k more? At these prices the bottom line impact on your payment would be negligible.

Bottom line, as I suspected - the 135i is simply too expensive to become an enthusiast's car.

 

[jacilore]

Hi all:

Anyone knows if there are plans for a 118d coupe?. I think It can be a nice and affordable entry version with still enough power.

I know it should not be important for BMW, but I ask it because It's the one I would go for

 

[EnI]

Looks pretty bland without the M-package, which is probably the reason why the car int he press pictures is equipped with the package.

135i comes standard with M Aerodynamic package (= M-Sport body kit), while for 128i, 120d, 123d it is optional.

 

[Centurion]

Looks like I was more or less correct about pricing - in fact I was being too optimistic. The difference in price between a 135i and a 335i is just €6,000.

Given that, who in their right mind would opt for the 135i when you could get the 3er equivilent for a €6k more? At these prices the bottom line impact on your payment would be negligible.

Bottom line, as I suspected - the 135i is simply too expensive to become an enthusiast's car.

I totally agree. It is a a lot of money to pay for a 1er and I don't really see any major justification for choosing a 135i over a 335i. As for as dynamics go the 1er coupe is only 40kg lighter. Sure it's a bit smaller and bit more agile but the 3er coupe has come with a better interior, more space, better looks ans more prestige.



Eni: Will there be any more press photos issued the coming weeks?

 

[EnI]

Looks like I was more or less correct about pricing - in fact I was being too optimistic. The difference in price between a 135i and a 335i is just €6,000.

Given that, who in their right mind would opt for the 135i when you could get the 3er equivilent for a €6k more? At these prices the bottom line impact on your payment would be negligible.

Bottom line, as I suspected - the 135i is simply too expensive to become an enthusiast's car.

I told you guys 1er coupe won't be cheap. It irritates me a lot when some people constantly fantasize about cheap / affordable BMW model. This is not going to happen. Ever! It's like dreaming of Tag Heuer watch for a price of a Swatch or Casio.

Also, Josh, you should mind 135i includes M-pack standard and 335i doesn't. So they are not equivalent. If you add M-pack to 335i the price rises to €47,400, and the difference to €8,450 (that's already similar difference frame to 3er sedan vs 5er).

Eg. the price differences between 1er 5dr hatch & 3er sedan with same engine are in most cases much lower, and 1er is still selling well. Yet it was never planned the 1er to replace 3er as #1 selling BMW model. 3er is still THE model in portfolio, 1er is just an additional offer.