AutoBild Sportscars - Sachsenring tracktimes

[DeDe]

November update (Part 3) - All M-cars on the Sachenring

1:38,87 min - BMW M3 CRT
1:38,90 min - BMW M5 F10
1:40,18 min - BMW 1M Coupé
1:40,52 min - BMW M3 Coupé DKG Competition Package
1:40,60 min - BMW M3 Sedan DKG Competition Package
1:42,63 min - BMW M3 Cabriolet DKG
1:43,67 min - BMW X6 M
1:43,72 min - BMW X5 M

 

[Zafiro]

What went wrong with M3 CRT

 

[DeDe]

What went wrong with M3 CRT

Nothing. Why?

 

[Zafiro]

Nothing. Why?

I think the time was kinda bad but afterwards I realized this might be a power track considering the M5 is so quick.

 

[DeDe]

I think the time was kinda bad but afterwards I realized this might be a power track considering the M5 is so quick.

It's a difficult track - the difference between the M3 GTS and the M3 CRT is 1,6 seconds. The GTS uses P Zero Corsa but what about the CRT?

 

[DeDe]

One lap on the Sachsenring with an M3

 

[DeDe]

December-update

1:37,7 min - Badtoys Impreza WRX STi Sedan - semi-slicks
1:39,8 min - Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance Package '11 (facelift)
1:39,9 min - Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca - semi-slicks
1:40,8 min - Lexus IS-F '11 (facelift)
1:43,1 min - Subaru Impreza WRX STi tS Sedan
1:44,5 min - Seat León Cupra R
1:45,6 min - Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
1:45,8 min - Audi S3
1:46,0 min - Volkswagen Golf GTi Edition 35

 

[DeDe]

Sport Auto - 458 Italia vs. 911 GT3 RS 4.0 at the Sachsenring

Sadly, they only measured the tracktimes...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/673949460sv1.jpg/

1:33,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (Pilot Sport Cup)
1:34,3 min - Ferrari 458 Italia (Pilot Super Sport?)

How do they compare to the AutoBild SC-times?
1:31,9 min - TechArt GTstreet RS (911 GT2) (semi-slicks)
1:32,6 min - ABT-Audi R8 GTR R-tronic (semi-slicks)
1:33,5 min - Porsche 911 GT2 RS (997) (semi-slicks) - Driven by Walter Röhrl
1:33,6 min - 9ff GTrack 480 (997.2 GT3) (semi-slicks)
1:33,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 (semi-slicks)
1:33,9 min - Sportec SP750 (911 GT2) (semi-slicks)
1:34,3 min - Ferrari 458 Italia
1:34,5 min - Audi R8 GT (semi-slicks)
1:34,5 min - KTM X-Bow R (semi-slicks)
1:34,8 min - TechArt 911 Turbo PDK (semi-slicks)
1:34,8 min - 9ff BT-2 800 (911 GT2) (semi-slicks)
1:34,8 min - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997 mk2) (semi-slicks)
1:35,0 min - Geiger-Corvette ZR1
1:35,3 min - Abt R8 GTR
1:35,4 min - Novidem GT-RS (Nissan GT-R)
1:35,7 min - Ruf Porsche 911 Turbo PDK Aerokit

 

[Dibbles]

DP599TV. Doesn't that 458 use supersport tires?

 

[Mafalda]

Driver was?

 

[DeDe]

Driver was?

No info. Anja Wassertheurer or HvS.

 

[DeDe]

[scan] The Sport Auto-trackpanel

About the 458 Italias tyres: the datapanel says Michelin Pilot Sport K1, but originally this testcar was equipped with Pilot Super Sports.
However... HvS mentioned in the 991 Supertest that the Porsche wears the same type (Pirelli P Zero) of tyre as the Italia in this comparison, except the different specification (Ferrari, Porsche).

Chaos at Sport Auto.

 

[Mafalda]

About the 458 Italias tyres: the datapanel says Michelin Pilot Sport K1, but originally this testcar was equipped with Pilot Super Sports.
However... HvS mentioned in the 991 Supertest that the Porsche wears the same type (Pirelli P Zero) of tyre as the Italia in this comparison, except the different specification (Ferrari, Porsche).

Chaos at Sport Auto.

why they put old tyres on a latest 458?!??
quick transl about "als der 458 anno 2010 ..." etc etc etc?

maybe are "similar", not "same"

 

[DeDe]

why they put old tyres on a latest 458?!??

That's why I think it ran on PSS...

quick transl about "als der 458 anno 2010 ..." etc etc etc?

maybe are "similar", not "same"

They say MY2012 comes "with different suspension- and gearbox-setup".

 

[Mafalda]

That's why I think it ran on PSS...

possible

They say MY2012 comes "with different suspension- and gearbox-setup".

this is what I'm saying since last summer, unfortunately some users do not agree, and speaking only about tires ...

 

[RaviAuto]

Thanks dear for share the information. really you have very great knowledge.....

 

[DeDe]

January-update

1:36,3 min - Komo-Tec Exige RS 360
1:44,3 min - Subaru Impreza WRX STi Sedan Sport
1:47,1 min - Rieger Polo GTi
1:48,0 min - Abt AS1 (A1 1.4 TFSI)
1:49,2 min - SST Ibiza Cupra
1:49,5 min - Milotec Fabia RS

 

[DeDe]

February-update

1:34,84 min – Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
1:36,62 min – Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK (991)
1:38,46 min – Dieselspeed P440 EVO (BMW 1M)
1:38,69 min – MTM TT RS Nardo Edition
1:39,09 min – Dähler BMW 1M
1:39,09 min – Kelleners Sport KS1-RS (BMW 1M)
1:39,21 min – AC Schnitzer ACS1 Sport (BMW 1M)
1:39,25 min – Laptime LR 135 Sport (BMW 1M)
1:39,39 min – Lightweight BMW 1M
1:39,51 min – Manhart MH-1 Biturbo (BMW 1M)
1:39,77 min – Corvette Grand Sport
1:40,43 min – MTM RS3 Sportback
1:40,50 min – MTM A1 Nardo Edition

Scans and more info will come later, hopefully on this weekend.

 

[Zafiro]

Oh man , I hate seeing so many 1M going to the hands of tuners.

 

[DeDe]

Oh man , I hate seeing so many 1M going to the hands of tuners.

And one of them is actually no faster than the stock.... even with 400 hp.