Hot! Audi: What's Next?

[McLaren64TR]

Difference will be easy to tell due to the sheer mass and raised roof rails of Q9. New Q7 looks awkwardly short while the Q9 looks to be "the right size" they will both have the same ugly front end though.

It's not just a matter of size. The Q7 and Q9 share a very similar front end. The X5 and X7 are completely different, and this will be the case with their new generations. But the front design of the Q7 and Q9 is almost identical. Therefore, someone seeing it from the front wouldn't be able to easily tell whether it's a Q7 or a Q9.

Q7

Q9

 

[Tuffode]

Honestly glad that the new A8 is delayed. Happy to see one designed by the new designer vs whatever bs that would come out right about now.

 

[Gor134]

It's not just a matter of size. The Q7 and Q9 share a very similar front end. The X5 and X7 are completely different, and this will be the case with their new generations. But the front design of the Q7 and Q9 is almost identical. Therefore, someone seeing it from the front wouldn't be able to easily tell whether it's a Q7 or a Q9.

Q7

Q9

Yes but I'm saying if you look at them side by side the size will be the giveaway that one is a Q9

 

[Design FIRST]

Every new Audi model we see this year, including the A2 e-Tron, Q7 and Q9 are going to be the ugly old design language.

The trailing edge of the Marc Lichte design paradigm. "Ugly" is in the eye of the beholder. "Old" is undeniable. IMHO, "stale" fits appropriately. "Radical Next" cannot come soon enough.

 

[Esp5]

I don't know if they had previously presented a real photo in the wild

Audi unveils 2nd SAIC-developed EV as it races to catch up in China

Audi unveils 2nd SAIC-developed EV as it races to catch up in China

Audi CEO Gernot Döllner defends the brand's dual-partner strategy in China as the E7X crossover prepares to debut.

www.autonews.com

 

[Design FIRST]

I don't know if they had previously presented a real photo in the wild

Audi unveils 2nd SAIC-developed EV as it races to catch up in China

Audi unveils 2nd SAIC-developed EV as it races to catch up in China

Audi CEO Gernot Döllner defends the brand's dual-partner strategy in China as the E7X crossover prepares to debut.

www.autonews.com

And yet another good looking large SUV.

 

[Esp5]

And yet another good looking large SUV.

It seems like something "just to get it over with," I find it super dull

 

[Design FIRST]

It seems like something "just to get it over with," I find it super dull

I find it refreshingly "clean" versus the genuine Audi SUVs.

 

[Esp5]

I find it refreshingly "clean" versus the genuine Audi SUVs.

I agree it's better than those, but it still falls short for me.
Given that its sibling, the liftback, seems to have failed in China, I wonder how this will fare.

 

[Design FIRST]

I agree it's better than those, but it still falls short for me.
Given that its sibling, the liftback, seems to have failed in China, I wonder how this will fare.

Yep-strong start for the SAIC AUDI E5 Sportback...that fizzled-out very quickly. IMHO, the E7X being an SUV should fare a bit better.

 

[Design FIRST]

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*From Germany's WELT.de (English-language audiotrack available).

 

[Shellshock]

So it seems there will be a new Audi A8 probably in 2028-2029

https://www.motor1.com/news/790277/audi-a8-successor-late-decade/

 

[Design FIRST]

So it seems there will be a new Audi A8 probably in 2028-2029

https://www.motor1.com/news/790277/audi-a8-successor-late-decade/

...but it is highly likely that it will not be a "traditional" 2 1/2 or 3-box 4 door sedan. Not by Audi AG, at least. But one by SAIC AUDI, that could be possible.

 

[Shellshock]

Its clearly stated by Audi that "The decision on an A8 successor has been taken and we intend to present it towards the end of this decade." As far as i know, there is no A8 by SAIC AUDI.The PPC platform is there...probably the same engines from next Q7/Q9...so they clearly dont take it from scratch so it would be ashamed not to do another flagship A8
Bug again, its only one source

 

[Design FIRST]

As far as i know, there is no A8 by SAIC AUDI.

However, there is innuendo that SAIC AUDI will present an E segment, circa 5000mm long 2 1/2 box BEV or REEV 4 door sedan concept sometime within the course of the next 12 some months.

 

[Shellshock]

However, there is innuendo that SAIC AUDI will present an E segment, circa 5000mm long 2 1/2 box BEV or REEV 4 door sedan concept sometime within the course of the next 12 some months.

Even the A6 now has 5mm long, the cars are getting too big every generation... Do you know if that is only for the Chinese market ?
Or it will make the same course as Byd, Geely, Zeekr etc?

 

[Design FIRST]

Do you know if that is only for the Chinese market ?

Should the rumoured concept actually materialize and the public's reception of it, including the international automotive press, be favourable, it may be exported to selected Asian and central/eastern European markets. Of course, all nothing more than conjecture at this point.

 

[Rolf]

It's not just a matter of size. The Q7 and Q9 share a very similar front end. The X5 and X7 are completely different, and this will be the case with their new generations. But the front design of the Q7 and Q9 is almost identical. Therefore, someone seeing it from the front wouldn't be able to easily tell whether it's a Q7 or a Q9.

Q7

Q9

Is Audi taking a different approach and the Audi Q9 will just be a LWB version of the Q7 but with a new name? Maybe some cost cutting as both BMW and Mercedes use different bodyshells for their flagship SUVs compared to X5/GLE.

 

[Gor134]

To me in the spy shots the Q9 is wider.... but I might be wrong.

But there's the issue of "one design, multiple sizes" they look so similar they look the same size to most people.

It's the same stupid design language introduced by the Q3 with the split headlights and chunky square for the second headlights.

That being said, VAG has been doing insane amount of exterior parts sharing now so I actually wouldn't surprised if the front clip and doors are the same on the Q7 and Q9, with just the bumpers and grilles being different.

Current exterior parts sharing in VAG:
Audi A5 and A6 - front hoods, rear diffuser
Audi Q3 and Cupra Terramar - rear doors and windows

 

[Design FIRST]

With the seemingly unrelenting onslaught of new as well as facelifted product presentations by M-B (AMG) and BMW, Audi has been staying a bit under the radar. Save some information and photo/video footage regarding the A2 etron, RS6, Q7 and Q9. Things may get a bit more interesting towards the end of this year/beginning of next year when the first production-bodied "Concept C" and A4 etron test vehicles will begin to appear. They should mark the dawn of the new "Radical Next" era. Or such is the current "buzz".