Vs Audi A6 4.2 vs Lexus GS450h vs Mercedes-Benz E420 CDI

[Yperion]

Lexus seriously scares me..........

Here is a Toyota/Lexus engineer:



"Resistance is futile — you will be assimilated."

 

[cawimmer430]

Here is a Toyota/Lexus engineer:



"Resistance is futile — you will be assimilated."

You need an I-Mod to destroy a Borg!

Yes, I am a Trekkie. I speak Klingon to!

 

[MikeJ]

Euro Benzes drive, handle and feel sportier than their US-spec counterparts.

True, but it's not only Mercs. Just about all European cars get softened for the U.S. and all U.S. cars get stiffened for Europe.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Didn't Audi or VW come up with a "hybrid prototype" sometime in the late 1980s?

Yes, and there was a VW "Taxi" in the 70s. But good old Dr. F. Porsche beat everyone to it.
Hybrid cars and trucks knew a certain popularity until the 1920s, when they along with the electric and steam cars were exctincted.

 

[cawimmer430]

True, but it's not only Mercs. Just about all European cars get softened for the U.S. and all U.S. cars get stiffened for Europe.

With the exception of BMW and Porsche, perhaps?

 

[cawimmer430]

Yes, and there was a VW "Taxi" in the 70s. But good old Dr. F. Porsche beat everyone to it.
Hybrid cars and trucks knew a certain popularity until the 1920s, when they along with the electric and steam cars were exctincted.

 

[ree]

Didn't someone ask for a photo?

I found this on the web, which shows the ultimate car trunk:

 

[warot]

Yes. I need to see a picture of the trunk!

In places like Singapore where diesel cars are too expensive to buy (and I mean expensive, with road tax X 6), the hybrid offers the best compromise.

Hehe:

I'm a fan of the hybrid system, especially if you are in the city. But I think overall, diesels are the way to go.

 

[bmer]

But I think overall, diesels are the way to go.

Agree with you there, warot!

 

[cawimmer430]

One thing is for sure. The Mafia won't be getting GS450h's.

 

[Mr. M]

Thanks ree and warot. It definitely looks way too small.

 

[Deleted member 182]

Since when people have cared about ******* trunk here? Of course then when Lexus has something wrong with it! I tought this forum was all about lap times, designo interios and all that kind of bullshit.

 

[PanterroR]

Well, you were wrong, obviously... And easy with the language, ojis.

 

[Choleric]

Yeah that happens with every car here though, we'll find one thing wrong with it and jump all over it, grown quite accustomed to it myself.

 

[cawimmer430]

Since when people have cared about ******* trunk here? Of course then when Lexus has something wrong with it! I tought this forum was all about lap times, designo interios and all that kind of bullshit.

Auto Motor und Sport has a point with the small trunk. It's not enough to make the Lexus lose out (it also lost on poor comfort, brakes and lifeless steering.

I also posted this article on Carspin and even some of the Toyota fans agree that the lack of a trunk on this car is a killer. The people who shop in this class care about interior space and that includes a useable trunk. For a family of four, using the Lexus GS hybrid to go shopping at the local Wal Mart will mean filling up the rear seats with goodies.

BTW, AMS liked the Lexus hybrid technology. They said that if you're going to spend most of your time in city driving, there is no choice but the Lexus GS hybrid. Heck, I personally like the Lexus GS a lot, but I wish they'd offer a real diesel for Europe. The GS300 is a little underpowered (the GS got heavier after all) and still quite thirsty.