Vantage (2005) Aston Martin V12 Vantage RS Thread

[PanterroR]

Maybe we should ask the opinion of a guy who has owned both a Mercedes CL and an Aston DB9 ........Does Alex think the Aston is crappy?

Hehe, good point, Rob.

Going from CL to AM i don't think Alex thinks AM is crappy...

 

[Tarek]

I DEFINITELY ave to agree with ARTIST here,the AM is FAR from touching Zonda in termsd of looks and engineering point of view,Pagani managed to beat supercars giants likeFerrari and Porsche let alone poor AM.

 

[LaArtist]

ofcourse the dude likes his new car.. why would he buy it if he didnt?

on the other hand i would like to know if he thinks its superior to other cars in that range.. in anything else than looks..

he if anyone should know

 

[LaArtist]

I DEFINITELY ave to agree with ARTIST here,the AM is FAR from touching Zonda in termsd of looks and engineering point of view,Pagani managed to beat supercars giants likeFerrari and Porsche let alone poor AM.

haha lol dont even go there man..
a person claiming ANY AM is better than a zonda doesent know piss about cars..
but to be fair they didnt say it was better..they just think it looks better..
and thats up to them.. it doesent interest me

 

[SDNR]

^^..That is hardly surprising ...the Zonda is far more expensive for a start ...it is in a different league altogether.

 

[PanterroR]

I DEFINITELY ave to agree with ARTIST here,the AM is FAR from touching Zonda in termsd of looks and engineering point of view,Pagani managed to beat supercars giants likeFerrari and Porsche let alone poor AM.

Pagani and Aston Martin are 2 different cars and in performance i'm also sure Zonda will beat it every time.

ofcourse the dude likes his new car.. why would he buy it if he didnt?

on the other hand i would like to know if he thinks its superior to other cars in that range.. in anything else than looks..

he if anyone should know

We're only talking here about looks...

 

[LaArtist]

^well if your only talking about looks..then im out
no point in discussing it..as everyone has a personal taste..

and like we said..when it comes to things that are compareable..
Astons more or less suck.. for the price they want for their machines..
and thats the cold truth..
sorry

 

[PanterroR]

^well if your only talking about looks..then im out
no point in discussing it..as everyone has a personal taste..

Fair enough.

and like we said..when it comes to things that are compareable..
Astons more or less suck.. for the price they want for their machines..
and thats the cold truth..
sorry

Yeah, that's why the DBS is sold untill 2012, because it sucks....

 

[SDNR]

Astons more or less suck.. for the price they want for their machines..
and thats the cold truth..
sorry

Hmmm, that is a little harsh Artist. Astons are not exactly second rate rubbish .....Afterall, Ferrari still takes it seriously as a competitor.

 

[LaArtist]

^looks looks and looks again..thats why its sold out..

 

[LaArtist]

Hmmm, that is a little harsh Artist. Astons are not exactly second rate rubbish .....Afterall, Ferrari still takes it seriously as a competitor.

ofcourse they are no LADA´s thats now what im saying..
they just dont have much to show for.. other than design..
compared to the league they want to play in
thats what im saying

 

[PanterroR]

Afterall, Ferrari still takes it seriously as a competitor.

Porsche too...

 

[PanterroR]

^looks looks and looks again..thats why its sold out..

Quality too, i'd say:

 

[LaArtist]

^sure.. the least you can ask for at that price

PS
Not sure it has so high quality though..have seen several occasions where AM´s just stop working..
like on Fifthgear..and so on..

So yes interior and button quality..
but the rest is abit dodgy

 

[PanterroR]

Which car maker doesn't ask high price for such quality?

 

[bmer]

I DEFINITELY ave to agree with ARTIST here,the AM is FAR from touching Zonda in termsd of looks

You're right, it doesn't touch the Zonda, it actually bitchslaps it in looks.

 

[PanterroR]

You're right, it doesn't touch the Zonda, it actually bitchslaps it in looks.

WORD!

 

[Merc1]

A V12 Vantage RS? Excuse me while i mop up my drool…

I'm afraid we've had the same problem while writing this story. This little coupe does indeed have a 12 cylinder engine under its bonnet, and we all know what RS means.

Aston Martin unveiled this car last night at the opening of its new design studio, and while the car is tagged as a concept, it looks set to make production. Click 'Next' for the full story on Aston's first RS car.

Sorry, let me just check. A V12?

Oh yes. Aston’s engineers deserve massive credit for managing to shoehorn this 600bhp block in there. Yes, 600bhp. The engine is a development of the DBRS9’s – Aston’s ‘gentleman racer’, one rung down from the Le Mans winning DBR9 – but tweaked to give a nice round 600. The engine is dry-sumped and features forged pistons and conrods. Peak power arrives at 6250rpm, while 509lb ft is available at 5000rpm.

To save weight the boot lid and louvred bonnet are carbonfibre. Aston says the RS weighs ‘under 1600kg’, but officials wouldn’t be drawn into specifics. A regular V8 Vantage is 1630kg, and while a V12 engine adds weight, we’d hope it’s closer to 1500kg, especially when a 911 GT3 RS is 1375kg.

So is it quick?

Aston reckons on a 4.0 second sprint to 62mph, while 100mph is covered off in 8.5 seconds. By comparison the standard V8 takes 4.9 seconds for the 0-60mph run, and the GT3 RS 4.2 seconds.

This concept is one quick car, and to help keep it on the ground there’s a carbonfibre front splitter, and a pop-up rear spoiler.

This RS tag, significant?

Without doubt. Aston’s boss, Dr Ulrich Bez, was in charge of Porsche R&D when a certain 993 RS was rolling out of Stuttgart. The ‘RS’ script on the brake callipers looks suspiciously Porsche-esque, and a Harm Lagaay was there last night: he’s the man who penned the 993-generation 911.

But for Aston RS is not ‘rennsport’ (which is German for motorsport). Instead it stands for ‘road sport’, signifying that the Vantage RS is a road car that can be used on the track, rather than being an all-out trackday racer.

Will Aston build the RS?

Almost certainly. The concept car is a runner, and there’s also a Vantage development mule running around near Gaydon with a V12 under the bonnet.

Bez made the point that: ‘Over the last five years, we have established a reputation for presenting fully functional, feasible concept cars, and the V12 Vantage RS is no exception. We will listen with interest to feedback on this concept and, as ever, if there is sufficient demand then we will seriously consider a low volume production run in the near future with a price that will reflect the exclusivity of the car’. That’s a yes then, and a price of at least £150,000.

And Aston can do all this easily?

Yes. That was the point of last night: Aston unveiled its new design studio at Gaydon, so they now have that, a factory, and an engine plant. According to Bez it’s all about ‘speed, variability, flexibility and sensitivity’. The studio, factory and engine plant give them that, so it would seem rather foolish not to utilise this trio.

The VH platform that the DB9 and Vantage use is also very flexible, meaning limited-run variants are relatively easy to produce. First down the line next year will be the DB9 LM and V8 Vantage N400, as an example.

Aston says the design studio is 80 percent more energy efficient that an equivalent building, thanks to geothermal heating and wood from renewable Austrian and Swiss forests. Apparently the forests are so renewable (and so large) that all the wood Aston has used grows back in just nine minutes.

So is Aston on a roll?

Undoubtedly. It’s just announced the DBS will appear in the next Bond film due at the end of 2009, after, Bez joked" ‘we have repaired it from the seven rolls’.

Aston has strong financial backing, is opening dealerships in China and Russia, and a one-make race series for the V8 Vantage is starting next year in Asia, while the Rapide will appear in summer 2009.

Aston is banking on the brand being strong enough to sustain lots of limited edition cars, but they’re going to have to be careful. But to keep their cool credibility, their signing up with lots of other prestige names, and first on the cards is a tie-up with Bang & Olufsen.

Look out for a production version of the Vantage RS appearing towards to end of 2008, and CAR will be there first to bring you all the details.


Aston Martin V12 Vantage RS concept - First Official Pictures - Carmagazine.co.uk


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[Bruce]

meh!!!

You know, I kind of agree with The Artist here.

Now, don't get me wrong. I've had the chance to see the standard V8 Vantage on a number of occassions, and there's little doubt that's it's a fantastic little car. Not only does it look superb, but it's well assembled and I truly have little qualms that it's a fantastic car to drive.

And now with a V12 under the bonnet, I should like it even more... but I just don't. It somehow fails to excite me.

 

[SDNR]

^^well I will also declare (as I have before) that I am not an Aston guy either ...I prefer both Porsche and Ferrari, but I do think Aston is making some really beautiful cars nonetheless.