always V8

ali pontiac

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Hi all

i would like to see your opinions , i don't have German car i was always american cars fanboy, my first car was 1995 mustang gt, 2nd 1996 mustang gt 3rd camaro Z28 4th and currently Mercury grand marquis.

you see i always own a V8 cars, i love the feel the sound the torque i love big natural aspirated V8s, i know there 6 & 4 cylinders cars are faster but its about the feeling of the V8, always been american cars owner,family and friends also they own amercian cars, always heared about germans cars are not reliable bla bla bla, in the past two years of owning 2010 BMW X6 (wife car) i changed my mind i went deeper focusing in germans cars and the car that make this big change my brother in law audi R8. i loved the interior quality, fit & finish. the handling and technology, yes now i can see clearly the plasticy interior of my car cheap materials, mushy & clunky suspension.

the problem is german V8s are expensive , in my country i can get new Dodge charger R/T 5.7L V8 380 HP, with navigation heated/cooled seats etc etc all standard , same price for german car i get Audi A4 which its 2.0 small car and every thing is optional not standard like navi etc etc, thats really raise up the price.

Price of BMW 550i which i thinking about it a bit more than Corvette Z06.

Audi A7 3.0 price same Chrysler 300C SRT8 big luxury and powerful 475 HP 6.4L V8.

you can see what i mean, i can get used 2006 bmw 750li for a fair price around 18000 $ but owning this car without warranty is a mistake.

so if i move for a german car it will be not a V8.

you see what i mean guys i can't make my decision, thanks for reading.
 
In modern times its arguable if you really need that v8 power, since 6 and 4 are plenty powerful, plus smaller engine weight less so since i live surrounded by many curly backroads i almost always prefer smaller weight than power. Plus imo i6 feels as good as v8 even tho its very diffirent. And please dont compare 300c and a7 =/
plus in some cars 6 cylinder feels more "right" than 8, because it doesnt add so much unwanted weight in the front which i just hate
 
The debate could end up in one very, very long write-up about say, BMW's absolutely brilliant engine lineup and how you can substitute this or that engine for a V8.

I will spare you the details;)

There is no substitute, not if you are a V8 die-hard. I know and it's true no matter who says what. I have to dowsize and made peace with that, but NOTHING will replace the V8's of my life past and present. The BMW 435i I6 Turbo to become my next wheels will be a downsizing excercise, nothing more and nothing less. BMW does not make and engine in their fast and brilliant lineup that can replace their V8 TT. For that is the LOGIC of them having spend the effort, R&D and employ people in a factory to make them.

Simple as that.

Regards.
 
The debate could end up in one very, very long write-up about say, BMW's absolutely brilliant engine lineup and how you can substitute this or that engine for a V8.

I will spare you the details;)

There is no substitute, not if you are a V8 die-hard. I know and it's true no matter who says what. I have to dowsize and made peace with that, but NOTHING will replace the V8's of my life past and present. The BMW 435i I6 Turbo to become my next wheels will be a downsizing excercise, nothing more and nothing less. BMW does not make and engine in their fast and brilliant lineup that can replace their V8 TT. For that is the LOGIC of them having spend the effort, R&D and employ people in a factory to make them.

Simple as that.

Regards.



There is a substitute for V8 and it is much better than V8. That subsitute is I6. If it were not much better, why would the BMW F8X get an I6 instead of a V8? :sneaky:
 
There is a substitute for V8 and it is much better than V8. That subsitute is I6. If it were not much better, why would the BMW F8X get an I6 instead of a V8? :sneaky:

Wrong.

The I6 (Tri-Turbo?) will substitute the outgoing NA V8. Efficient Dynamics + weight reduction and meeting EU standards for the segment and all that political BS.

So then the I6 (In which ever Turbo-charged configuration) is not and will not be a substitute for the V8 TWIN TURBO-charged N63 Engine:sneaky:;)

Let's try and stay realistic here. Compare apples with apples. This is a animal of a TOTALLY different nature and kind, more a monster at that. Pissing against BMW's coveted jewel that is the I6 in all respect. And i will get the 435i, loose the M6 - just becuase of inflation I got poorer - no shame in that!?

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Wrong.

The I6 (Tri-Turbo?) will substitute the outgoing NA V8. Efficient Dynamics + weight reduction and meeting EU standards for the segment and all that political BS.

So then the I6 (In which ever Turbo-charged configuration) is not and will not be a substitute for the V8 TWIN TURBO-charged N63 Engine:sneaky:;)

Let's try and stay realistic here. Compare apples with apples. This is a animal of a TOTALLY different nature and kind, more a monster at that. Pissing against BMW's coveted jewel that is the I6 in all respect. And i will get the 435i, loose the M6 - just becuase of inflation I got poorer - no shame in that!?

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- displacement/cylinders < + displacement/cylinders

S63 is crap compared to S85. Same will go for S55 compared to S65. A good turbo-engine has to be built from ground up.

Never will the Porsche FI Flat4 be a substitute for a Porsche NA Flat6. NEVER!!!
 
- displacement/cylinders < + displacement/cylinders

S63 is crap compared to S85. Same will go for S55 compared to S65. A good turbo-engine has to be built from ground up.

Never will the Porsche FI Flat4 be a substitute for a Porsche NA Flat6. NEVER!!!

Not that it's news but I do agree :) People will say that we can't be sure how good the "S55" will be but at least we can be sure that it won't be better* than the magnificent NA V8... for sure... wait hmmm it's for sure... like A FACT :D

* By better I mean better... like BETTER(don't ask in what as I don't know shit about cars :( )

PS: Holly, I made a purchase today and I'm in The Mood... like IN THE MOOD! :D
... sorry
 
you can see what i mean, i can get used 2006 bmw 750li for a fair price around 18000 $ but owning this car without warranty is a mistake.
so if i move for a german car it will be not a V8.
you see what i mean guys i can't make my decision, thanks for reading.
I you don't absolutely need the extra room, a later E39 540i could be a more reliable alternative to that 750li. These can be picked up for $10-20k in various good conditions, with the M5 starting close to $18k with less than 100k miles. They don't have the interior bling or leather dash of the modern cars, but in certain design aspects (especially the center console) I think they look nicer than the 300C/Charger. Good materials too (Alcantara headliner in the M5) and some nice touches that the American cars are just getting around to having (rear seat vents), and some things they still don't (extendible thigh bolsters).
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A bit of the best of both worlds:
E46: Another BMW LS swap - LS1tech members puts a GM LS1 5.7 liter V8 in an E46 BMW 3 series to make a 357ci
 
I can not vouch for the 7er..but i have a E36 and its a P.O.S.. Error after effin error.
And i heard the 540 is even worse.

I would stay away!
 
but i have a E36 and its a P.O.S.. Error after effin error.

FU :D. I have a E36 M3 for almost 14 years now and it runs smooth as silk. Sample of one means jack. On the other hand E36 M3 is one of the most tracked cars (besides Miata), cause of how bullet proof it is.
 
I can not vouch for the 7er..but i have a E36 and its a P.O.S.. Error after effin error.
And i heard the 540 is even worse.

I would stay away!

bs :) 7er can go wrong, because it has so many things, but on e36 theres not so much
 
^Yea there are many E38s on Ebay for around 10k. But chances are you will pay dearly in upkeep.
 
FU :D. I have a E36 M3 for almost 14 years now and it runs smooth as silk. Sample of one means jack. On the other hand E36 M3 is one of the most tracked cars (besides Miata), cause of how bullet proof it is.
Sorry sorry.. i made an ERROR

EDIT i have a E39 FIVE SERIES..not the E36 ( even though i had one of those aswell) and yes the E36 was very much better than the 39.

The 39 is POS!!!

And like i said the 7er i have no experience with, but im sure its a POS to:D

PS
@klier
Funny thing you dislike a post where im trying to help a member from NOT buying a car..from my first hand experience of owning it and paying for the damn repairs for 3 years..

Amazing that you dislike a seemingly helpful post,but hey im lying ..BMWs cant fail..right?

Pathetic!
 
@klier
Funny thing you dislike a post where im trying to help a member from NOT buying a car..from my first hand experience of owning it and paying for the damn repairs for 3 f#cking years..

Amazing that you dislike a seemingly helpful post,but hey im lying ..BMWs cant fail..right?

Pathetic!

Oh please cut the drama Artist :D
I simply dislike that post. The E36 doesn't have error after error as it is a rock solid, low tech car. I can't help it when you make typing errors and mean another (very good) car.
 
^So you are telling me that im lying about the countless problems ive had with my E39??

Here is a list.

1. ABS Control Unit
2. ABS Sensors
3. Whole Instrument Panel
4. Mass flow sensor
5.Inlet pipes
6. AC unit
7. Headlight projectors
8. Ignition coils
9. And a shit load of other things i cant think of now, plus the usual wear and tear crap

This is by FAR the most problematic car ive ever Owned, Im never buying a BMW again.
Even if i win the effin car on lottery..ile sell it to you:D

So please your dislike is only cause you got butt hurt that over the fact that someone critisized BMW..
As usual;)
 
^So you are telling me that im lying about the countless problems ive had with my E39??

No. You were saying E36 in the post I dislike.
And the E36 has very little problems as far as I know, so that why I disliked that post.

You seriously think I care what you think of a certain BMW? Get real Artist! You can give all the critiques you want.
 

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