Hot! All kind of sales Audi / BMW / Mercedes

[klier]

Maybe because of the i4?

It's the i4 I think.
Of the 4er GC, 90% I see is the i4 here in Holland. Anecdotal but telling, but possibly much different in the U.S. It's decently popular for people fed up with the Model 3 I suppose.

A breakdown would be nice. To lump the 4er coupe, cabriolet, GC and i4 in one pack is a bit dumb.....but keep adding the i3

Also remarkable to see the passenger cars up and the SUVs down.

 

[BorkLaser]

The good performance of AUDI on these two major European markets is absolutely inexplicable. They don't have any product, that is better than the competition, while most products are lacking behind those of BMW and Mercedes.

Audi being part of the VW group is for many people here in Almanland reason enough to consider one, but also reason enough not to consider one, albeit many people seem them as acceptable vehicles, if there is no other choice.

Audi was hot in 2007, when they introduced the R8 and the A5, but they wasted too many opportunities afterwards as a brand. One of the nicknames people gave to Audi was "Ankündigungsweltmeister" or "world champions of announcement".

Also competitors expanded their AWD offerings, which also took away one of Audi´s unique selling point.

 

[dalab]

The 4 series it's flying
The X2 was discontinued in the US to prop up the X1 while waiting for the new X2.

 

[leylandi]

Strong momentum in Q2: Double-digit sales growth (+11.3%), BEV deliveries more than doubled again.

The BMW Group delivered a total of 88,289 fully-electric BMW and MINI vehicles to customers in the second quarter of 2023 – and once again succeeded in more than doubling its BEV sales from the same period of last year (+117.5%). All major regions saw significant sales growth for fully-electric models – underlining the wide appeal of these models to customers worldwide.

The BMW Group delivered a total of 626,726 BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce vehicles to customers in the second quarter, achieving significant year-on-year growth of +11.3% for the company. For the first half-year as a whole, BMW Group sales climbed to 1,214,864 units (+4.7%).

The BMW brand's fully-electric vehicles performed particularly well in the second quarter, once again more than doubling deliveries from the same period of 2022 (+150.7%). Between April and June, 77,948 fully-electric BMW vehicles were delivered to customers worldwide.

With 48,257 units sold in the second quarter of 2023, BMW M GmbH posted year-on-year growth of +14.5% and consolidated its position in the high-performance automotive sector. The recently released BMW M2 is receiving very positive feedback from customers. In addition, the BMW XM appeals to customers through a combination of ultimate driving pleasure and expressive design. BMW M GmbH’s top model is currently being rolled out across markets worldwide. Two more fully-electric BMW M Perfomance models, the BMW i5 M60* Sedan and the BMW i7 M70*, are also in the starting blocks for the second half of the year.

Strong momentum in Q2: Double-digit sales growth (+11.3%), BEV deliveries more than doubled again

BMW Group posts significant second-quarter sales growth (+11.3%) +++ Deliveries of fully-electric BMW vehicles more than doubled again: BMW Group +117.5%; brand BMW +150.7% +++ BMW brand continues to be No. 1 in worldwide premium segment +++ Sales increase across all key regions +++ Pieter Nota...

www.press.bmwgroup.com

 

[dalab]

Extract:

"BMW remains No. 1 in global premium segment"

*(That headline alone made 99% of the stories outlined in this forum against the brand in the dust, not much more to say.)

"The new 7 Series models, with the fully-electric BMW i7* and the new BMW X7, proved especially popular, as did the BMW 4 Series, and particularly the fully-electric BMW i4*."

*(Again throwing down stories about grills and other comments, nothing to do with the reality and positive results in sight.). Without detriment to that, BMW could break down in a better way the models and what they say here, perhaps in the annual meetings they will do it better.

"The company has also received very positive customer feedback on the new BMW 5 Series range and especially the fully-electric BMW i5*. The world’s most successful business sedan."

*(Not in GCF)

"With 48,257 units sold in the second quarter of 2023, BMW M GmbH posted year-on-year growth of +14.5% and consolidated its position in the high-performance automotive"
The recently released BMW M2 is receiving very positive feedback from customers
the BMW XM appeals to customers through a combination of ultimate driving pleasure and expressive design. "

*In the text, N°1 again here

Good news in general, text to consult every time you try to speak without knowledge of the facts against the adopted strategy

 

[Serpens]

I can't wait to see the USA breakdown even though I know they won't split out 4-series vs. i4 and 7-series vs. i7. Reading between the lines, this press release confirms what I've posted before. The dealer discounts indicate exactly what I thought - the ICE 4-series and especially ICE 7-series are not in demand. The i4 drives wonderfully despite being ugly and same for the i7, which really has no true peer at the moment. My grandmother loves her i7 although she still does not understand how to navigate 50% of the features.

Also much of this press release is just marketing speak. "The XM appeals to customers through a combination of ultimate driving pleasure and expressive design". No real impression of its sales performance or acknowledgement that they were discounted almost instantly upon arrival in the U.S.

 

[Merc1]

Next quarter will tell the real story. All these numbers are shipments. Now let’s see if they, Mercedes in particular ships as many next quarter. Dealers are sitting on dozens of cars right now.


M

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

Extract:

"BMW remains No. 1 in global premium segment"

*(That headline alone made 99% of the stories outlined in this forum against the brand in the dust, not much more to say.)

"The new 7 Series models, with the fully-electric BMW i7* and the new BMW X7, proved especially popular, as did the BMW 4 Series, and particularly the fully-electric BMW i4*."

*(Again throwing down stories about grills and other comments, nothing to do with the reality and positive results in sight.). Without detriment to that, BMW could break down in a better way the models and what they say here, perhaps in the annual meetings they will do it better.

"The company has also received very positive customer feedback on the new BMW 5 Series range and especially the fully-electric BMW i5*. The world’s most successful business sedan."

*(Not in GCF)

"With 48,257 units sold in the second quarter of 2023, BMW M GmbH posted year-on-year growth of +14.5% and consolidated its position in the high-performance automotive"
The recently released BMW M2 is receiving very positive feedback from customers
the BMW XM appeals to customers through a combination of ultimate driving pleasure and expressive design. "

*In the text, N°1 again here

Good news in general, text to consult every time you try to speak without knowledge of the facts against the adopted strategy

So BMW's marketing department describes the brand's sales and you take their intimation as a fact?

 

[Sunny]

Jan - May 23

 

[leylandi]

Extract:

"BMW remains No. 1 in global premium segment"

*(That headline alone made 99% of the stories outlined in this forum against the brand in the dust, not much more to say.)

"The new 7 Series models, with the fully-electric BMW i7* and the new BMW X7, proved especially popular, as did the BMW 4 Series, and particularly the fully-electric BMW i4*."

*(Again throwing down stories about grills and other comments, nothing to do with the reality and positive results in sight.). Without detriment to that, BMW could break down in a better way the models and what they say here, perhaps in the annual meetings they will do it better.

"The company has also received very positive customer feedback on the new BMW 5 Series range and especially the fully-electric BMW i5*. The world’s most successful business sedan."

*(Not in GCF)

"With 48,257 units sold in the second quarter of 2023, BMW M GmbH posted year-on-year growth of +14.5% and consolidated its position in the high-performance automotive"
The recently released BMW M2 is receiving very positive feedback from customers
the BMW XM appeals to customers through a combination of ultimate driving pleasure and expressive design. "

*In the text, N°1 again here

Good news in general, text to consult every time you try to speak without knowledge of the facts against the adopted strategy

There are no numbers in this quote, there are fancy stories. I'm only interested in numbers. be happy with the stories

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

There are no numbers in this quote, there are fancy stories. I'm only interested in numbers. be happy with the stories

Absolutely. When a manufacturer is happy with the results they always cite numbers, when the numbers should not be shown in order not to be embarrassed they tell sweet stories (or combine the numbers with other models).

 

[dalab]

So BMW's marketing department describes the brand's sales and you take their intimation as a fact?

There are no insinuations there, the sales figures are included in the official statement at the bottom link, I don't understand your comment... since it is an official statement of the behavior in Q2 and YTD.

I only made an excerpt quoted verbatim from the models that according to the official source of BMW AG. determine in this Q2 the main generation of the described sales increases that imply more than 11% compared to 2022.

"BMW remains No. 1 in global premium segment" does not mean that it is a "marketing invention" or yes and I am confused and Germany allows companies to lie.

@leylandi QUOTE: "There are no numbers in this quote, there are fancy stories. I'm only interested in numbers. be happy with the stories"
Dear, what stories? what are you taking about? it is your own post, it is the link that you posted right here above, a
Are all the numbers there in the link, so what are you talking about? They are not broken down, that's why they mentions the models that represent the growth this Q2, that's all.
more and more bizarre crazy things are being discussed here, I'm falling into the game of answering the obvious, wasting time for nothing.

@leylandi When you post the Q2 and YTD numbers for the world's second largest automaker?, I think it's Mercedes.....

 

[dalab]

As I said, the forum has become a waste of time answering trolls who only put giggle emojis when they have no arguments to answer.

 

[dalab]

The race for supremacy in the premium market is getting tighter. AUTO ZEITUNG explains in the economic analysis why Mercedes gives BMW an advantage in the long term.

BMW has already twice succeeded in replacing Mercedes as the most successful premium brand worldwide: the brand with the propeller passed the star for the first time in 2005. It took Mercedes a whole eleven years to show BMW the taillights again: in 2016 they regained first place. But while Mercedes sales collapsed in times of the corona and chip crises, BMW was able to stabilize its sales and pass them again in 2021.

Der Kampf um die Spitze

Das Rennen um die Vorherrschaft im Premium-Markt wird enger. Warum Mercedes BMW langfristig einen Vorteil verschafft, erklärt die AUTO ZEITUNG hier.

www.autozeitung.de

 

[Sunny]

US H1 23 Top 10 EVs

 

[leylandi]

• Successful BEV ramp-up: Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars battery electric vehicle (BEV) sales up 123% to 56,300 units in Q2
• Top-End segment growth: Sales reach 84,800 units (+12%) in Q2 lifted by Mercedes-AMG (+19%), Mercedes-Maybach (+39%) and G-Class (+29%)
• Q2 sales up year-on-year: Mercedes-Benz Cars sales reach 515,700 units (+6%) in Q2 and 1,019,200 units (+5%) in the first six months, supported by strong sales in Germany (+22%)

Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars battery electric vehicle sales rose to 56,300 units in Q2, a 123% increase compared with the prior-year quarter, underscoring the priority of scaling EV’s. This increase was mainly driven by the demand for the EQA (+73%) and EQB (+83%) and the EQE Sedan (+157%). In the first six months of 2023, Mercedes-Benz Passenger Cars sold 102,600 BEV’s worldwide (+121%). Fully electric vehicles now account for 11% of overall sales year-to-date. Including plug-in hybrids Mercedes-Benz sold 187,600 electrified vehicles (+36%), corresponding to a global xEV-share of 18% at the end of June.

Top-End
Sales in the Top-End segment rose by 12% to 84,800 units in Q2 and 15% to 176,600 vehicles in the first six months of 2023. Mercedes-AMG increased global sales by 19% to 38,000 units in the second quarter, supported by a strong SUV segment and launches of the AMG derivatives of the C-Class and SL. Demand for the iconic G-Class remains high and sales increased by 29% to 11,000 units in the second quarter. In April 2023, the 500,000th model of the legendary Mercedes‑Benz G-Class rolled off the production line in Graz. Mercedes-Maybach lifted global sales by 39% to 6,500 vehicles in Q2 and was able to further expand its customer base, especially in the U.S. market. The brand will further upgrade its series models with an optional Night Series package. The Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV has been introduced in all key regions, with 10,900 units sold in the first half of 2023.

Core
Sales in the Core segment were up 2% to 276,600 units in the second quarter. Sales of the E-Class increased by 11% in Q2 to 73,000 units and reached 146,300 units (+2%) in the first six months. Sales of the EQE Sedan more than doubled to 9,000 units (+157%) and sales of its SUV sibling, the EQE SUV reached 10,000 units in Q2. In the second half of the year, the global ramp up of the new GLC, E-Class and CLE models will continue.

Entry
Sales in the Entry segment increased by 11% to 154,100 units in Q2 and even grew 19% in the first half of 2023, reaching 317,500 vehicles. The recently upgraded CLA saw sales rise 31% to 21,700 units in Q2. First-half sales of compact SUVs GLA and GLB reached 65,100 units (+19%) and 74,700 units (+23%) respectively. Together with its electric versions EQA (+69%) and EQB (+125%), the compact SUVs accounted for more than half of sales in this segment in the January to June period. Mercedes-Benz Passenger Car BEV-share rose to 15% in this segment in the first half of 2023 compared to 9% a year-earlier.

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[leylandi]

 

[Merc1]

MBUSA sales:

Mercedes' sales are all over the place.

M

 

[leylandi]

MBUSA sales:

Mercedes' sales are all over the place.

M

S class/EQS : 5600
7 series : 2300

 

[leylandi]

USA BEV H1 2023

BMW 17K
MERCEDES 19K