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[PanterroR]

Three letters: B M W

Yeah, Blow My Whistle!

 

[Centurion]

And the 6er vs Z9 is a TERRIBLE example. The 6er was never supposed to be a copy of the Z9. It was supposed to be influenced by it. Which it does superbly. The CS on the other hand is supposed to go into production with the same dimensions, even. As a copy indeed.

Source???

 

[Zafiro]

Source???

Maybe the two of you should show us some sources

 

[Centurion]

Maybe the two of you should show us some sources

It's just that there's hardly any concept created which design is 99% mirrored by the production car coming out 2-3 years later. Like previously stated, the Z9 and 6-series is an excellent case. In terms of signifigance the CS and Z9 are on the same level, showcasing future design language for the brand while giving an outlook of what potential production car version will look like.

 

[LaArtist]

^their source is scott..

 

[EMpower]

They may change the shape of small things like mirrors and grills but overall shape wil be pretty much same. Scott did mention that BMW does not want to disappoint people who liked the car....those special customers.

 

[Centurion]

Hopefully he'll limp in there and tell us how strong the similaraties between the 8-series and the CS are.

 

[warot]

Hopefully he'll limp in there and tell us how strong the similaraties between the 8-series and the CS are.

He already did a few times in the Official CS thread. And the concensus from reading around other forums was that the CS isn't going to that drastically on the road to production. Yes, the pedestrian safety and all that good stuff will have to be in there, but I don't believe it will be something like a Z9 to a 6er.

 

[klier]

It's just that there's hardly any concept created which design is 99% mirrored by the production car coming out 2-3 years later. Like previously stated, the Z9 and 6-series is an excellent case. In terms of signifigance the CS and Z9 are on the same level, showcasing future design language for the brand while giving an outlook of what potential production car version will look like.

It's fine if you think that, but please don't make it sound as a fact, because it is what you think about it and is completely off and based on nothing.
At least I base my claims on a real BMW Insider.

Some of you seem to think that the designers of the Concept CS didn't think of all the regulations they have to comply with if they decided to make a production model of it?
It's all there already. What we see is what we get, minus the bling rims, door handles, mirrors and interior with regular iDrive screen. So only small things will change.

I want to hear Scott again, in this very thread
The way I see it, is that the production CS will be a facelift of the concept CS, basicly.

 

[SKY]

The exterior definitely will. It was confirmed by Herr Draeger (BMW Chief of Development) in the latest AMS interview.

Although some details will be changed to make them production-ready: bigger side mirrors, front bumper with central air intake, different rear bumper with red reflectors, different (more practical wider boot lid opening), classical exterior door handles, non-chrome wheels, different rearlight & headlight cluster graphics, side chromed gill will have different graphics.

Interior will be also much more "productionized" - although the CS design cues will be used.

The most delicate thing here are the door handles. I'm not sure where the handle on rear door will be positioned - since the shoulder character crease bows down. Perhaps the crease will be in one piece, or the door handle will be positioned elsewhere (perhaps even hidden in the Hofmeisterknick).


PS: The base price for CS won't be much above price level of fully loaded F02 LWB 7er with same motorization (V8 & V12 only, hybrid possible, no diesel in the first phase).
Mind that in Germany base E65 760Li costs 127k Euros (tax included), the special editions cost up to 136k Euros ... and you can opt optional equipment for several thousands Euros.

So, expect base eg. 860i (CS 60i) to be priced at about at least 160k Euros. Somewhere in CL range.

Any said this in the F01 pics post.

 

[SCOTT27]

With the production car of the CS the aim is to keep everything that made the car a success. Knowing only to well how Aston Martin have kept their initial Rapide Concept car looks is a page BMW have used .

With the product development underneath Gerhard Richter - The father of M Divsion you know right way BMW's intentions for this car and that is the best drivers car in it's segment if not the only car in it's segment to begin with. Make no mistakes about it but the BMW CS production car will be a very sporty and dynamic car and the design reflects these intentions. BMW reckon that with 2dr Coupes that the owner of these cars initially have familes so the aim is to offer a fitting flagship to the BMW Brand and use a more unconventional approach than our competitors .

The overall look of the car will be unchanged but such elements such as more sculpture in the front bumper to accomodate pedestrian regulations are a given. The low roof line reamins intact as passengers sink in to the car. The interior at the front is all about the driver and that seperated dashboard will feature in the production car. The car will be a strict four seater with a long centre console in the middle that will split up all the seats .

The Production car will possibly be available with in starting entry model with a V8 , The concept car runs with a prototype enhanced V10 from the M5 which is under discussion for inclusion with the next M5 as BMW are working on how to sustain the V10 and make it more viable , flexible and efficient. All models will feature the upcoming 8 speed Automatic As well as technology shared with the 7er and Rolls-Royce RR04.
As the car will be the flagship for BMW and the much talked about Bridge to Rolls-Royce, interior quality is not being taken for granted. There are ideas to accomodate the CS by building the bodywork in Germany and finishing the car at Goodwood to take advantage of production space and craftmanship. However these were ideas before the economy rolled over.

What to call the car ? Speculation remains on "8" as reported by the media but within BMW there is hardly any ienthusiasm in calling the car 8 because of the less successful E31 8er and E52 Z8.
Many with BMW refer to the car internally as the BMW Gran Turismo , many prefer GT 7 which would accomodate future GT models along the line Or as it was intended originally Z9 or 9er . However there is just over two years to decide what to call the car. It may have an unusual name but this is all about the car.

 

[warot]

Any said this in the F01 pics post.

That's exactly why I showed up in this thread in the first place because I didn't understand why there were renderings in the first place. It has always been my understanding that the CS will be more on the level of what those "concepts" I showed in the first page than that of the Z9... but I got laughed at for not knowing what a concept car is. I might only know about E7x and a few engine variants coming in the future, but that's 2 other BMW people now saying the same thing I said.

 

[DaSilva]

 

[PanterroR]

Not bad chops...

 

[m-power]

I will be very disappointed if it turns out like this. This isn't too different than the 7er. The GT7 needs an independent identity and design from the 7er.

 

[PanterroR]

The GT7 needs an independent identity and design from the 7er.

GT7?

 

[warot]

GT7?

Possible name. gran turismo 7 or 8er

 

[PanterroR]

I've understood he's talking about possible name, but i haven't heard so far about GT7....

 

[klier]

Scott calls it GT7, but so far he is the only one on the net doing that.

 

[Centurion]

Well Scott got us all excited about the F01 hyping it to be a CS concept with minor details blown up. Guess what, it ended up looking far from the CS. So I'm not holding my breath.