GT 2026 AMG GT 4-Door Vision EV

[Mr. Mercedes]

This car isn’t going to bankrupt then if it’s not a hit. The SUV will sell better than the sedan for sure, either way the tech will eventually trickle down to other Mercedes.

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Exactly. The sales will not be the story here, but the tech. How much of a UPS this provides Mercedes and for how long, before other manufacturers come up with competitive motor tech?

 

[Swissbob]

The problem is, once bitten twice shy.

Early adopters got a big hit regarding residual values. Taycan and EQS and e-tron Owners know what I mean.

If they’re still convinced about EVs, they buy something cheap. Even a little EX30 does 0-60 in 3.5sec.

 

[Design FIRST]

The problem is, once bitten twice shy.

Early adopters got a big hit regarding residual values. Taycan and EQS and e-tron Owners know what I mean.

If they’re still convinced about EVs, they buy something cheap. Even a little EX30 does 0-60 in 3.5sec.

Shift the risk of depreciation to leasing companies. At least until that technological plateau is reached in which rapid obsolesence is no longer a significant issue for electric vehicles. And even then, leasing could remain an interesting alternative. We're not talking about classic historical collector vehicles where genuine passion and sustainable pride of ownership play a role. Even large luxury segment sedans are business conveyances for affluent businesspersons who would rather drive than fly or travel by rail.

 

[Swissbob]

Problem is, If you’ve bad residuals, the leasing rate will eventually go up.

Who’s going to pay 100% higher rates compared to a ICE.

That’s the point where the cat bites her tail.

 

[Xquest]

These motors aren't in the market.

What MB actually has on the market is subpar at best, and when these new motors do come to market, all the other OEMS will have similar stuff.
We're talking literal years until they hit the market, and that's a f#cking eternity in EV land.

It is here next year

 

[AbsoluteUnit]

Realistically, it'll have a home in high end company car schemes, because most company car schemes prefer EVs for tax purposes.
Most EVs probably have a home here anyway, for the time being.
The AMG? I don't know. It needs to be priced aggressively, if they want any hope of shifting them.

 

[Swissbob]

100k less than originally planned.

 

[Rolf]

These motors aren't in the market.

What MB actually has on the market is subpar at best, and when these new motors do come to market, all the other OEMS will have similar stuff.
We're talking literal years until they hit the market, and that's a f#cking eternity in EV land.

Have you seen the specs for these motors? They are the most power dense (kw/kg) of any motors in automotive use. They are definitely not subpar. They are better than anything else on the market.

Apart from this Mercedes AMG EV, which is the first full EV to use these YASA Axial Flux Motors, they were also used in the hybrid Ferrari SF90, 296 and Lamborghini Temerario, Revuelto as well as the Koenigsegg Regera.

Now that Mercedes-Benz has bought YASA, there is every chance that the next S-class EV will have these motors and then filter down into other models.

There are also other Axial Flux Motor manufacturers but these are still in talk with car manufacturers.

 

[Design FIRST]

Problem is, If you’ve bad residuals, the leasing rate will eventually go up.

Who’s going to pay 100% higher rates compared to a ICE.

That’s the point where the cat bites her tail.

This reservation is legitimate, certainly. A point in which manufacturers and governments will be challenged to assist in making electric mobility the most viable as well as most option. Untangling superfluous bureaucracies in order to liberate funds for prudent application promoting transformation. Infrastructural requirements, innovative asset retrieval recycling processes, consumer incentives, increasing economies of scale that could further diminish the cost chain and ensuring that consumers will profit from it, etc. Of course, not the easiest task at hand when skepticism, often political ideology dogma driven, leaves so many focusing on the rearview mirror rather than forwards, hence seeking perceived "easy outs" that will arguably not be future proof.

Yes-not a simple matter.

 

[SKY]

Have you seen the specs for these motors? They are the most power dense (kw/kg) of any motors in automotive use. They are definitely not subpar. They are better than anything else on the market.

Apart from this Mercedes AMG EV, which is the first full EV to use these YASA Axial Flux Motors, they were also used in the hybrid Ferrari SF90, 296 and Lamborghini Temerario, Revuelto as well as the Koenigsegg Regera.

Now that Mercedes-Benz has bought YASA, there is every chance that the next S-class EV will have these motors and then filter down into other models.

There are also other Axial Flux Motor manufacturers but these are still in talk with car manufacturers.

Just FYI, I was wondering the same and asked ChatGPT to do a comparison between the motors of MB, BMW, Porsche, Tesla and BYD. The conclusions were pretty much the same as yours.