Revuelto [Official] Lamborghini Revuelto

[klier]

After a couple of days to digest my conclusion is that I think it's a formidable piece of cutting edge hardware, but the looks of the rear in particular is not quite my thing. I get BMW i8 vibes off it. The diffuser is too big and black, and the exhaust is on a downright ugly place up high like that.

Side is a but messy compared to an Aventador with lots of crazy lines going nowhere. At least the Aventador has a clear theme in the design, less messy maybe with lines better to understand.

Front is gorgeous and the wild LED arrangement doesn't even bother me. Same for the interior, gorgeous and a big step up over the Aventador.

All this from a few pics and vids of course. It'll likely completely blow me away when I eventually see one somewhere one day.

 

[Tourbillon]

 

[slicknick]

After a couple of days to digest my conclusion is that I think it's a formidable piece of cutting edge hardware, but the looks of the rear in particular is not quite my thing. I get BMW i8 vibes off it. The diffuser is too big and black, and the exhaust is on a downright ugly place up high like that.

Side is a but messy compared to an Aventador with lots of crazy lines going nowhere. At least the Aventador has a clear theme in the design, less messy maybe with lines better to understand.

Front is gorgeous and the wild LED arrangement doesn't even bother me. Same for the interior, gorgeous and a big step up over the Aventador.

All this from a few pics and vids of course. It'll likely completely blow me away when I eventually see one somewhere one day.

Pretty much sums up my sentiments 100%...Though more than the back (I really like the aesthetics, as well as the tech they've applied), my main concern is the weight. Having saved -17kg's from the engine -10% from the chassis, shedding the glass engine cover altogether, as well as several other areas; it's puzzling that the car still ended up being heavier than the alum-framed SF90 (I know, one is a 3.9L V8 & the other a 6.5L V12, but I still find it curious)

 

[klier]

Pretty much sums up my sentiments 100%...Though more than the back (I really like the aesthetics, as well as the tech they've applied), my main concern is the weight. Having saved -17kg's from the engine -10% from the chassis, shedding the glass engine cover altogether, as well as several other areas; it's puzzling that the car still ended up being heavier than the alum-framed SF90 (I know, one is a 3.9L V8 & the other a 6.5L V12, but I still find it curious)

I think that compared to an SF90, the Revuelto will be much more of a car able to be used as a daily. With more creature comforts and stuff like that. Like a sporty version of a mini Chiron.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I think that compared to an SF90, the Revuelto will be much more of a car able to be used as a daily. With more creature comforts and stuff like that. Like a sporty version of a mini Chiron.

Usability is nice, but people don’t buy these cars to daily them. Trust me.

 

[klier]

Usability is nice, but people don’t buy these cars to daily them. Trust me.

No but they are made to do so like a Chiron and unlike a Ferrari. Fully aware that people who buy these have at least 5 other high end cars.

 

[duesy]

Usability is nice, but people don’t buy these cars to daily them. Trust me.

What's their purpose? Track days or track days you can drive to? If the former, why not get the Brabham BT62 or Dallara Stradale? The latter, and why not go for the 720S or Porsche GT3? The Lambo is either too heavy or expensive in comparison with these cars. I don't see it as a weekend tbh.

 

[duesy]

^^ I meant *weekend racer*

 

[Jo_Sta7]

What's their purpose? Track days or track days you can drive to? If the former, why not get the Brabham BT62 or Dallara Stradale? The latter, and why not go for the 720S or Porsche GT3? The Lambo is either too heavy or expensive in comparison with these cars. I don't see it as a weekend tbh.

Because you want the best of the best. Why buy a Patek when a timex tells the time just as well? 95% of the Revuelto's won't see a track. None will be used as a daily. It will mostly be used a showpiece, just like the Aventador. It will see a lot of parking lots at CNC. Will be valeted outfront of very nice restaurants. Will cruise up and down streets of expensive areas from Monaco to Beverly Hills. Taken to high speeds on relatively deserted roads. Or just driven for fun and then back to the garage. That's just how these cars end up being used.

People who don't own exotics don't understand. The hardest part of living with them is parking and leaving them. Knowing that one day you'll leave it and some asshole will kick or key your car and you'll lose what little faith you have left in humanity. There's a few visible youtubers who beat the shit out of their high end super/hypercars. But this is a very unusual way to use them. The FFF guys in particular. Couldn't be more nice and allow more people to use their cars. They really don't care.....

 

[Tourbillon]

Powerful picture.

 

[duesy]

Because you want the best of the best. Why buy a Patek when a timex tells the time just as well? 95% of the Revuelto's won't see a track. None will be used as a daily. It will mostly be used a showpiece, just like the Aventador. It will see a lot of parking lots at CNC. Will be valeted outfront of very nice restaurants. Will cruise up and down streets of expensive areas from Monaco to Beverly Hills. Taken to high speeds on relatively deserted roads. Or just driven for fun and then back to the garage. That's just how these cars end up being used.

People who don't own exotics don't understand. The hardest part of living with them is parking and leaving them. Knowing that one day you'll leave it and some asshole will kick or key your car and you'll lose what little faith you have left in humanity. There's a few visible youtubers who beat the shit out of their high end super/hypercars. But this is a very unusual way to use them. The FFF guys in particular. Couldn't be more nice and allow more people to use their cars. They really don't care.....

Sure, but we don't agree on the concept of the 'best of the best.' Anything from Lamborghini hardly qualifies from a technological standpoint––Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren, among others, are far superior. From a racing/racing history perspective, even Honda is more illustrious as a name. And give me a Dallara (hardly a Timex) or Brabham (a cool $1.6 million) any day on the track. Unless, as you said, one is aiming for a boulevard showstopper. Even then, the Revuelto is not a top-notch looker. I'd take the MC20, 296 or DBS over it. The Revuelto is the flagship of a "brand," and a very identifiable one––I can relate to it at such a subjective level. But "the best of the best," no way. Not even close.

 

[dalab]

Powerful picture.

Explicit image, it is clear that the intention was to radicalize it, accentuate and exaggerate more what was there, following the guidelines of the special versions of several million dollars launched during the life of the Aventador

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Sure, but we don't agree on the concept of the 'best of the best.' Anything from Lamborghini hardly qualifies from a technological standpoint––Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren, among others, are far superior. From a racing/racing history perspective, even Honda is more illustrious as a name. And give me a Dallara (hardly a Timex) or Brabham (a cool $1.6 million) any day on the track. Unless, as you said, one is aiming for a boulevard showstopper. Even then, the Revuelto is not a top-notch looker. I'd take the MC20, 296 or DBS over it. The Revuelto is the flagship of a "brand," and a very identifiable one––I can relate to it at such a subjective level. But "the best of the best," no way. Not even close.

You just don’t like the car very much lol. Which is fine. No one cross shopping a Dallara with a Revuelto and to many Lambo is THE brand. Not me, or clearly you, but many.

 

[duesy]

You just don’t like the car very much lol. Which is fine. No one cross shopping a Dallara with a Revuelto and to many Lambo is THE brand. Not me, or clearly you, but many.

That's not an answer to my objective objections to the claim that the Revuleto is somehow among the best of the best. But I guess once you look at these cars as things to "shop", yeah, I don't like the Revuelto all that much.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

That's not an answer to my objective objections to the claim that the Revuleto is somehow among the best of the best. But I guess once you look at these cars as things to "shop", yeah, I don't like the Revuelto all that much.

I mean, it is though. The wait list is this long for a reason. It’s the hybrid hypercar of 2023. Valkyrie way to compromised. AMG One is a flop. This is it. You could go niche manufacturers I guess but from one of the big boys, this is it.

 

[duesy]

I mean, it is though. The wait list is this long for a reason. It’s the hybrid hypercar of 2023. Valkyrie way to compromised. AMG One is a flop. This is it. You could go niche manufacturers I guess but from one of the big boys, this is it.

That's like saying because Beyoncé is a best-selling musician, she's among the best of the best in music. When she isn't, regardless of how many people shop her albums and how much money she makes.

Also, in the other thread you said you don't like the Valkyrie because it is not usable. Now, you say that exotics don't have to be usable. So which one is it? Because if usability is not a factor, the Valkyrie and the One are the best of the best.

 

[Merc1]

Just say the car is hugely desirable and call it a day - that is most definitely is.

M

 

[Matski]

That's like saying because Beyoncé is a best-selling musician, she's among the best of the best in music. When she isn't, regardless of how many people shop her albums and how much money she makes.

Also, in the other thread you said you don't like the Valkyrie because it is not usable. Now, you say that exotics don't have to be usable. So which one is it? Because if usability is not a factor, the Valkyrie and the One are the best of the best.

It's Automotive fashion. It's not actually about the best of the best. There is no right or wrong answer with such subjective criteria, and no objective concensus on 'best'... If you have the money, and you value this above all others, why not? Why would you objectively think a Koons or Hockney was worth the money? You wouldn't! If what it offers YOU is worth what YOU pay, it's a winner.

Such items are about leveraging brand value, not quality, performance or ability, it doesn't even matter as long as other people know how much you spent.

This is just my personal view, but it's why I've so little time for opinions criticising personal, bespoke, commissions. If they've not made a $100,000 book about your personal commission to celebrate or explain its evolution, you're not as important as you think you are.

 

[duesy]

It's Automotive fashion. It's not actually about the best of the best. There is no right or wrong answer with such subjective criteria, and no objective concensus on 'best'... If you have the money, and you value this above all others, why not? Why would you objectively think a Koons or Hockney was worth the money? You wouldn't! If what it offers YOU is worth what YOU pay, it's a winner.

Such items are about leveraging brand value, not quality, performance or ability, it doesn't even matter as long as other people know how much you spent.

This is just my personal view, but it's why I've so little time for opinions criticising personal, bespoke, commissions. If they've not made a $100,000 book about your personal commission to celebrate or explain its evolution, you're not as important as you think you are.

That's the impression I get from his arguments—and I don't share them.

For me, it's the Hockney over the Koons if I am a connoisseur (and not an an art investor or enthusiast) who knows painting and takes pride in his aesthetic opinion. It's not even a debate and critics would agree with me. Indeed, if money is really no object, it's not even Hockney or Koons; I'm paying for a Francis Bacon or Lucian Freud from the British contemporaries. American, and it's Rothko or O'Keefe. Modern, non-contemporary, it's Cézanne...no question. And these are the mainstream figures, with a lot of breathtaking painting from more fringe figures available at bargain prices because people don't know them. I saw a Denyse Thomasos painting once and was blown away by it. Now, she's much more famous.

Point being that calling something—anything—the best of the best calls for/presupposes a set of criteria for judgment. I'd want to know what Alonso or Häkkinen think of a proper race car before I call anything the best track weapon; what De Silva or Chris Bangle thinks of the exotic as a design category before I rule a car out for threatening my aesthetic sensibilities; or what Gordon Murray or Mate Rimac think about what a true hypercar should be before I say 'anything goes' insofar as 'money is no object.' Otherwise, we can't understand/discuss why the Honda NSX is considered one of the best of the best all time, even though it was not considered the best at anything by the average buyer in the 1990s.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

I just don’t understand your premise at all. “What’s the point of the new Revuelto?”. What’s the point of anything?