F1 2012 Korean GP

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Yeongam

Race Date: 14 Oct 2012
Circuit Name: Korea International Circuit
First Grand Prix: 2010
Number of Laps: 55
Circuit Length: 5.615 km
Race Distance: 308.630 km
Lap Record: 1:39.605 - S Vettel (2011)
Winner 2010: Fernando Alonso (Ferrari)
Winner 2011: Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull)

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Romain Grosjean desperate to avoid more first-lap trouble

Romain Grosjean has promised to do all he can to avoid further first-lap incidents, in the wake of his collision with Mark Webber in Japan.
The Frenchman faced intense criticism - and a face-to-face confrontation with his Australian rival – for the part he played in a crash with the Red Bull driver at the second corner at Suzuka.
Coming so soon after Grosjean's race ban for the Belgian Grand Prix startline pile-up, Webber and Red Bull chiefs suggested that the Lotus driver's behaviour was 'unacceptable.'
Grosjean has apologised to Webber for the incident – which came, he says, because he was trying so hard to avoid a crash with Sergio Perez that he misjudged his closing speed to the car ahead of him.
"Since Singapore, I've been trying to be really cautious at the starts and it's been all the more frustrating to be involved in an incident in Japan," explained Grosjean.
"When approaching the first corner, I was watching Sergio on my left to make sure there was no contact with him. I didn't expect such a big speed difference between me and Mark braking into the corner, we collided and that was it.
"It was a stupid mistake. Mark came to see me after the race and was obviously not happy, but I apologised and we have to move on.
"I've sat down and looked at things again with the team; for sure it's still an area we need to improve. We're clearly focusing on this area for the next races."
Team boss Eric Boullier reckons rivals are pushing Grosjean hard because they know he has to be cautious – and thinks the Frenchman's latest problem has come from trying too hard to not crash.
"We could see in Singapore, when Romain was back after his race ban, that some other drivers were putting extra pressure on him at the start," he explained.
"In Suzuka, Romain made a small mistake by misjudging his pace relative to Mark, which was a bit higher. We have sat down and spoken.
"We understand what has to be done. I think in Singapore to an extent and in Suzuka he was almost trying to overcompensate by focusing on staying out of trouble, which in the last race had the opposite effect."
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2012 FIA Formula One World Championship™
Grand PrixDateWinning DriverTeamLapsTime
Australia 18/03/2012 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 58 1:34:09.565
Malaysia 25/03/2012 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 56 2:44:51.812
China 15/04/2012 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 56 1:36:26.929
Bahrain 22/04/2012 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 57 1:35:10.990
Spain 13/05/2012 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 66 1:39:09.145
Monaco 27/05/2012 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 78 1:46:06.557
Canada 10/06/2012 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 70 1:32:29.586
Europe 24/06/2012 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 57 1:44:16.649
Great Britain 08/07/2012 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 52 1:25:11.288
Germany 22/07/2012 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 67 1:31:05.862
Hungary 29/07/2012 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 69 1:41:05.503
Belgium 02/09/2012 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 44 1:29:08.530
Italy 09/09/2012 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 53 1:19:41.221
Singapore 23/09/2012 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 59 2:00:26.144
Japan 07/10/2012 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 53 1:28:56.242
 
Maybe it is time for Romain to take up that offer from Jackie...


Stewart: I would love to help Romain

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Stewart: I would love to help Romain

Sir Jackie Stewart has offered to help Romain Grosjean, saying his "enormous potential" is being "overshadowed" by the number of accidents he is involved in.
Lotus driver Grosjean is a man under fire after he was involved in yet another incident at the Japanese Grand Prix. This time Mark Webber was on the receiving end and the Australian called him a "first-lap nutcase" after the race while Jenson Button told him to "take a good look at himself and sort his s**t out".
Lotus team boss Eric Boullier, meanwhile, feels it's up to Grosjean to get his act together saying: "I have spoken a lot with him. We changed the routine, we tried to make it not more comfortable because I needed a tougher environment for him, and I needed to push him, but he is the only one who can fix this."
Three-time World Champion Stewart, who is an ambassador for Lotus' owners Genii Capital, feels he can help Grosjean to back on track.
"I would love to help Romain, because I think he has enormous potential," Stewart is quoted as saying on BBC Sport.
"Any more accidents could jeopardise his chances of driving for Lotus next season, let alone the very best teams."
He added: "It's his first full season in F1 and he is fast enough to win races.
"I actually think he could have won one or two Grand Prix this season, but at the moment his potential is being overshadowed by the number of accidents he's having."
Stewart's previous offer to help the Frenchman was turned down, but he says he's still willing to help out.
"He had already had a few accidents then and I thought I might be able to help him avoid them in the future," Stewart said.
"I'd been a young entrant into Formula One myself and had also run a fairly good driver development programme at Stewart Grand Prix, when I'd helped drivers like David Coulthard, Juan Pablo Montoya, Gil de Ferran and Allan McNish.
"Romain, who I have to say is an extremely nice young man, chose not to take up the offer.
"The season was congested then, he was about to go on his honeymoon, and he felt he had his own people assisting him.
"When the time comes and he wants to do it, I will always be there for him because of my relationship with the team.
"For some reason, racing drivers of all kinds feel they don't need coaches once they leave karting. That's unlike any other sport I know."
Grosjean, meanwhile, is eager to stay out of trouble.
"Since Singapore, I've been trying to be really cautious at the starts and it's been all the more frustrating to be involved in an incident in Japan," he said.
"When approaching the first corner, I was watching Sergio [Perez] on my left to make sure there was no contact with him. I didn't expect such a big speed difference between me and Mark braking into the corner, we collided and that was it.
"It was a stupid mistake. Mark came to see me after the race and was obviously not happy, but I apologised and we have to move on.
"I've sat down and looked at things again with the team; for sure it's still an area we need to improve. We're clearly focusing on this area for the next races."

Stewart: I would love to help Romain | PlanetF1
 
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Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.148s 23
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m39.450s + 0.302s 21
3. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m39.575s + 0.427s 21
4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m39.854s + 0.706s 23
5. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m40.088s + 0.940s 21
6. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m40.221s + 1.073s 21
7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m40.396s + 1.248s 24
8. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m40.422s + 1.274s 22
9. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m40.440s + 1.292s 19
10. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m40.480s + 1.332s 21
11. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m40.929s + 1.781s 14
12. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m41.048s + 1.900s 25
13. Jules Bianchi Force India-Mercedes 1m41.140s + 1.992s 21
14. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m41.220s + 2.072s 19
15. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m41.514s + 2.366s 20
16. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m41.596s + 2.448s 23
17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m42.021s + 2.873s 25
18. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m42.027s + 2.879s 23
19. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m42.104s + 2.956s 24
20. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.175s + 3.027s 13
21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.706s + 3.558s 22
22. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m42.820s + 3.672s 19
23. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m44.517s + 5.369s 23
24. Dani Clos HRT-Cosworth 1m45.735s + 6.587s 22
 
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Michael Schumacher reprimanded for impeding in practice


Michael Schumacher has been reprimanded by the Korean Grand Prix over his driving in free practice at Yeongam.
The seven-time world champion was found to have impeded both the HRT drivers, Pedro de la Rosa and Narain Karthikeyan, at different times.
The officials did not impose any form of sanction beyond the official reprimand.
 
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Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m38.832s 33
2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m38.864s + 0.032 33
3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m39.160s + 0.328 28
4. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.219s + 0.387 29
5. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m39.330s + 0.498 31
6. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m39.422s + 0.590 30
7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m39.584s + 0.752 36
8. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.717s + 0.885 25
9. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m39.739s + 0.907 33
10. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m39.839s + 1.007 26
11. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m39.957s + 1.125 28
12. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m40.089s + 1.257 32
13. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m40.112s + 1.280 34
14. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m40.445s + 1.613 28
15. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m40.745s + 1.913 11
16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m40.789s + 1.957 31
17. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m40.997s + 2.165 32
18. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m41.200s + 2.368 33
19. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m41.602s + 2.770 23
20. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.596s + 3.764 28
21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m43.066s + 4.234 21
22. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m43.067s + 4.235 22
23. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m43.869s + 5.037 36
24. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m44.533s + 5.701 24
 
Michael Schumacher has been reprimanded by the Korean Grand Prix over his driving in free practice at Yeongam.
The seven-time world champion was found to have impeded both the HRT drivers, Pedro de la Rosa and Narain Karthikeyan, at different times.
The officials did not impose any form of sanction beyond the official reprimand.

Haha, seriously? even a lamp post in the middle of the road can't impede the HRTs.

 
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Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m37.642s 17
2. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.169s + 0.527s 12
3. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m38.511s + 0.869s 13
4. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1m38.582s + 0.940s 16
5. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m38.666s + 1.024s 18
6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m38.705s + 1.063s 12
7. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m38.766s + 1.124s 7
8. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m38.791s + 1.149s 13
9. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m38.833s + 1.191s 16
10. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1m38.932s + 1.290s 17
11. Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.954s + 1.312s 17
12. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m39.010s + 1.368s 20
13. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m39.150s + 1.508s 18
14. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m39.156s + 1.514s 18
15. Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1m39.345s + 1.703s 14
16. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.448s + 1.806s 17
17. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.537s + 1.895s 18
18. Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1m39.706s + 2.064s 18
19. Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1m41.114s + 3.472s 14
20. Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1m41.437s + 3.795s 19
21. Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.684s + 4.042s 16
22. Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1m42.062s + 4.420s 15
23. Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1m42.845s + 5.203s 15
24. Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1m42.882s + 5.240s 14
 
2012 FORMULA 1 KOREAN GRAND PRIX
PosNoDriverTeamQ1Q2Q3Laps
1 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:38.397 1:38.220 1:37.242 17
2 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:38.208 1:37.767 1:37.316 13
3 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:39.180 1:38.000 1:37.469 16
4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:39.144 1:37.987 1:37.534 19
5 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault 1:38.887 1:38.227 1:37.625 17
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:38.937 1:38.253 1:37.884 16
7 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:38.863 1:38.275 1:37.934 20
8 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:38.981 1:38.428 1:38.266 18
9 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:38.999 1:38.417 1:38.361 17
10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:38.808 1:38.436 1:38.513 18
11 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:38.615 1:38.441 11
12 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.630 1:38.460 13
13 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.719 1:38.594 14
14 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:38.942 1:38.643 15
15 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1:39.024 1:38.725 16
16 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:38.784 1:39.084 13
17 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari 1:38.744 1:39.340 14
18 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault 1:39.443 9
19 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault 1:40.207 7
20 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault 1:40.333 10
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth 1:41.317 8
22 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth 1:41.371 8
23 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1:42.881 7
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth No time 1
Standings

Well done to Webber. Vettel didn't look too please at all after the qualifying session.




2012 FORMULA 1 KOREAN GRAND PRIX
PosNoDriverTime of DaySpeed
1 17 Jean-Eric Vergne 14:08:56 325.1
2 8 Nico Rosberg 14:59:40 320.5
3 7 Michael Schumacher 14:53:03 320.0
4 16 Daniel Ricciardo 14:40:42 319.2
5 14 Kamui Kobayashi 14:10:04 317.6
6 15 Sergio Perez 14:18:09 317.4
7 25 Charles Pic 14:19:05 315.6
8 5 Fernando Alonso 14:52:46 315.6
9 6 Felipe Massa 14:52:42 315.5
10 24 Timo Glock 14:19:23 315.4
11 19 Bruno Senna 14:06:37 314.8
12 10 Romain Grosjean 14:06:25 314.7
13 18 Pastor Maldonado 14:19:25 314.7
14 3 Jenson Button 14:12:34 313.8
15 12 Nico Hulkenberg 14:08:22 313.7
16 4 Lewis Hamilton 14:08:54 313.7
17 22 Pedro de la Rosa 14:20:04 313.7
18 11 Paul di Resta 14:30:42 313.4
19 2 Mark Webber 14:12:27 312.0
20 1 Sebastian Vettel 14:11:49 311.9
21 20 Heikki Kovalainen 14:02:10 311.7
22 21 Vitaly Petrov 14:09:01 311.7
23 9 Kimi Räikkönen 14:52:58 310.2
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan 14:06:43
305.2
 
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Korean GP: Mercedes fined over Schumacher/Hamilton pitlane incident

Mercedes has been hit with a €10,000 fine for an unsafe release of Michael Schumacher's car during qualifying.
The German was sent out of the garage moments after Lewis Hamilton's McLaren was, leading to the 2008 world champion having to drive around him in the pits.
The race stewards, including former Lotus and Arrows racer Martin Donnelly, deemed that Mercedes was in breach of Article 23.12 of the sporting regulations, which deems it to be "the responsibility of the competitor to release his car after a pitstop only when it is safe to do so".
Hamilton did not have a problem with the incident and was just happy to have got ahead of Schumacher before the pit exit.
"I didn't have any problems," he said.
"I was let out of my garage before he was and then they tried to get him ahead of me but he was coming out slowly so I overtook him because I was already on the speed limiter, which is 100 km/h, and he was doing maybe 20 or 30 km/h.
"But it gained position, which is very important."
It is the second time this weekend that Mercedes has been in trouble with the stewards after Schumacher was given a reprimand for impeding the HRTs of Pedro de la Rosa and Narain Karthikeyan during Friday practice.
Mercedes has been punished for an unsafe release once previously this season after it sent Schumacher's car onto the track with a wheel not properly attached during the Chinese Grand Prix.

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Wow. Mclaren are such an embarrassment. Lewis has now had mechanical failures three races in a row while in the first half of the season he was plagued by pit stop problems. It is so unprofessional. Lewis has been driving flawlessly and should be leading WDC now but the team has screwed everything up despite having the best car. Reminds me of Raikkonen days at Mclaren.

The WDC will be Vettels, especially if Mclaren keeps faltering, Alonso doesn't have any defence. His only hope is Lewis or button stealing points from Vettel.
 
Wow. Mclaren are such an embarrassment. Lewis has now had mechanical failures three races in a row while in the first half of the season he was plagued by pit stop problems. It is so unprofessional. Lewis has been driving flawlessly and should be leading WDC now but the team has screwed everything up despite having the best car. Reminds me of Raikkonen days at Mclaren.

The WDC will be Vettels, especially if Mclaren keeps faltering, Alonso doesn't have any defence. His only hope is Lewis or button stealing points from Vettel.
I don't think he would be, Mclaren were struggling with their car during the mid season when Ferrari and Red Bull lead the way.
 
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PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS The Korean Grand Prix Korean International Circuit, Korea; 55 laps; 308.630km; Weather: Clear. Classified: Pos Driver Team Time
1. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1h36:28.651
2. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 8.231
3. Alonso Ferrari + 13.944
4. Massa Ferrari + 20.168
5. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 36.739
6. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 45.301
7. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 54.812
8. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:09.589
9. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:11.787
10. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes + 1:19.692
11. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1:20.062
12. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1:24.448
13. Schumacher Mercedes + 1:29.241
14. Maldonado Williams-Renault + 1:34.924
15. Senna Williams-Renault + 1:36.902
16. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
17. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
18. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 1 lap
19. Pic Marussia-Cosworth + 2 lap2
20. Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth + 2 laps

Fastest lap: Webber, 1:42.037

Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap
De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 17
Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 17
Rosberg Mercedes 2
Button McLaren-Mercedes 1
 
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World Championship standings, round 16: Drivers:
1. Vettel 215
2. Alonso 209
3. Raikkonen 167
4. Hamilton 153
5. Webber 152
6. Button 131
7. Rosberg 93
8. Grosjean 88
9. Massa 81
10. Perez 66
11. Kobayashi 50
12. Hulkenberg 45
13. Di Resta 44
14. Schumacher 43
15. Maldonado 33
16. Senna 25
17. Vergne 12
18. Ricciardo 9

Constructors:
1. Red Bull-Renault 367
2. Ferrari 290
3. McLaren-Mercedes 284
4. Lotus-Renault 255
5. Mercedes 136
6. Sauber-Ferrari 116
7. Force India-Mercedes 89
8. Williams-Renault 58
9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 21
 
3 titles in a row at the age of 25, legendary if that happens and it suddenly the 7 titles mark won't appear as utopical anymore.
 
3 titles in a row at the age of 25, legendary if that happens and it suddenly the 7 titles mark won't appear as utopical anymore.

If he stays with Adrian Newey then 7 titles will be very plausible. I said it even before a few times that although Ferrari was leading and Mclaren had the fastest car, Red Bull are dangerous because when they find the sweet spot they are able to pull consecutive victories. Few teams or driver parings have been able to do that in the past three seasons.
 

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