Murciélago 2011 Lamborghini 834/"Jota"/"Aventador" (Murcielago replacement) Spy pics & Info

[martinbo]

Lambornima, you need to view the above link provided by footie separately from its FWD application. XWD by Haldex is their form of torque vectoring and as such is packaged in a certain fashion to suit FWD-based layouts. This means that all the components for the LSC centre coupling, rear diff and torque vectoring components are located at the rear axle of the vehicle. With respect to the LP700, its AWD clearly is different from that of the FWD application even if it was merely swapped around front to rear. It's completely unlikely that the torque vectoring componentry will be located together with the LSC, as seen in XWD, seeing that the LSC is now situated on the front axle. Instead, the torque vectoring stuff is located at the rear diff as it should be and will probably be supplied by Haldex regardless.

So, to sum up, XWD (centre limited slip coupling, rear diff and torque vectoring) is all located at the rear axle for FWD applications. For the Lambo, just the front diff and LSC will be located up front with torque vectoring at the rear axle.

 

[footie]

I wish more details of the actual Haldex system were available, at the moment we don't know just how much power can be transferred forward, is it 20-30% or can it shift even more. Does it always run a percentage of power to the front axle in normal driving or is it 100% at the rear in normal driving conditions.

 

[NarutoRamen]

I wish more details of the actual Haldex system were available, at the moment we don't know just how much power can be transferred forward, is it 20-30% or can it shift even more. Does it always run a percentage of power to the front axle in normal driving or is it 100% at the rear in normal driving conditions.

Those would be pretty cool to know. I'm sure anyone who wants to push their lambo to the limits would want to know that.

 

[SKY]

Seems like the very first real pic:

 

[LaArtist]

^i really hope its not real..
And it doesent look real..

 

[DocM]

agree with artist, looks like a bad chop actually

 

[bombardier01]

Seems like the very first real pic:

It's like a chop to me and not a good one..
I hope it will look much better than that.

 

[K-A]

Come on guys, you've looked at enough CGI's to know that thing is fake as Vegas t*ts.

 

[bombardier01]

come on guys, you've looked at enough cgi's to know that thing is fake as vegas t*ts.

lol..:d

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Full Carbon Fiber Construction For Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4

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We’ve seen and heard so much about Lamborghini’s upcoming replacement for its Murcielago supercar, the LP700-4, or Aventador as it’s expected to be known. We know all the details about its brand new 6.5-liter V-12 engine and ISR automated manual gearbox, even seen a leaked ordering guide and estimated pricetag for the car.

However, there’s still plenty of info to be divulged before the car makes its official debut at March’s 2011 Geneva Motor Show and the latest tidbits comes from none other than Lamborghini R&D chief Maurizio Reggiani.

Speaking with Automotive News on the eve of the 2011 Detroit Auto Show, Reggiani revealed that the LP700-4 will feature a full carbon fiber chassis and body. This was made possible thanks to research conducted at the recently established Automobili Lamborghini Advanced Composite Structures Laboratory (ACSL) in the University of Washington.

Together with the research lab’s help, as well as some additional help from aviation giant Boeing, Lamborghini has built its new supercar around a carbon fiber tub and body that boasts stiffness calculated as 35,000 Newton-meters per degree of deflection. In comparison, the outgoing Murcielago only measured in at 20,000 Nm, while the Koenigsegg CCR comes in at 28,100 Nm.

We also know that the LP700-4 will develop 700 metric horsepower, or about 690 traditional horses, along with 509 pound-feet of torque. This is around 30 horsepower more than the most powerful Murcielago model but as Reggiani explains, it will produce about 20 percent fewer CO2 emissions.

As mentioned, the car will feature a new automated manual gearbox dubbed ISR. Lamborghini claims the automated manual is competitive with dual clutch transmissions thanks to Independent Shifting Rod technology--hence the name, ISR. Instead of taking place in series, as with a conventional gearbox, shifting can occur virtually in parallel. While one shifting rod is moving out of one gear, the second shifting rod can already engage the next. Moreover, the transmission weighs only 174 pounds--a distinct benefit, even against comparable dual clutch units, which are considerably heavier.

This new gearbox is being sourced from current Lamborghini supplier Graziano Trasmissioni Group, according to Reggiani. It will also have a special “Corsa” mode that will allow shifts to be accomplished in 50 milliseconds. In comparison, a typical F1 race car shifts gears in about 40 ms.

- Full Carbon Fiber Construction For Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 - MotorAuthority

 

[LaArtist]

^Does a f1 car shift in 40ms?
the Zonda R shifts in 20..there must be something wrong with that 40 number..

 

[footie]

^Does a f1 car shift in 40ms?
the Zonda R shifts in 20..there must be something wrong with that 40 number..

xtrac make the transmission for F1 cars so it's fare to assume that if the Zonda does it in 20ms then the same would be true for an F1 car if not better as both are race prepared transmissions.

 

[LaArtist]

^No the F1 cars change in approx 5 ms..
Thats what i thought.. ignorant journalists as always..

 

[footie]

^No the F1 cars change in approx 5 ms..
Thats what i thought.. ignorant journalists as always..

Where did you find the info, I searched the net and all I could come up with was that F1 shifts took approx. 0.05s which is 50ms.

 

[LaArtist]

^Sorry its my fault had a momentary lapse of intelligence..haha.. u are right 50ms..

But the thing that shocks me is how can the Zonda R shift faster than a F1 car?

As tiff said in the test of the R that it shifts in 20ms..

 

[footie]

^Sorry its my fault had a momentary lapse of intelligence..haha.. u are right 50ms..

But the thing that shocks me is how can the Zonda R shift faster than a F1 car?

As tiff said in the test of the R that it shifts in 20ms..

No worries, anyone can make a mistake. Though it did get me thinking whether the Zonda R does actually shift in 20ms or is it a case of each manufacturer measuring by different methods. In any case I doubt either time will improve our ability to drive it to it's potential.

 

[bmer]

AFAIK the shift time in F1 cars is between 20-50 ms. Upshifts are faster at around 20 ms while downshifts can take closer to 50 ms.

 

[mini_cooper4]

Yes, 20ms for upshift in F1 and I'm pretty sure that it takes 50ms also for upshift in the Pagani. So probably 100-120ms for downshift. If that's right it makes much more sense

 

[LaArtist]

^no the number from pagani is 20ms for upshifts..
Downshift no clue..ile ask at the genva show..

The Xtrac Magnesium cased dog ring gearbox combined with the Automac Engineering AMT system performs gearshifts in 20ms, triggered by the drivers input on the paddles behind the steering wheel.

What the hack is a dog ring??.i love technical name dropping..

 

[mini_cooper4]

20ms is amazing I just can't believe it but I hope you're right..