Vs 2011 Ford Mustang 5.0 Vs. 2010 BMW M3 E92
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Interesting specs, never thought to compare them. They're nearly identical on paper. M3 is the premium machine though with a chassis balance and feel that the Mustang could never, ever come close to matching. The Mustang on the other hand is so much cheaper and give the same hp, but in different way. M3 for me, but only by a nose. GT500? Maybe the Ford then.
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have you driven both?
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Do you really need to drive it to know? Im not saying its possible unless someone have something to proove? Until then, noway! M3 is one step ahead.
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No, not these specific models, but I've driven a many BMW and Mustangs. They put down the same numbers here as we see, but the driving experience couldn't be more different. The Mustang though now refined, still is no match for the M3 in that area.
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Expectations and brand perception often overshadow facts, especially in a forum such as this. I'm not saying the Mustang is a better car than the M3 (I wouldn't know as I haven't driven either) but I get the feeling that many people assume the M3 is better simply because Ford's brand perception is not as strong as BMW's. Case in point:
"...one of the most powerful illustrations of the influence of brand became evident in a study I was doing on a new mouthwash a number of years ago.
One of the groups was comprised of consumers who were heavy users of green Scope. They were given three unbranded samples of green mouthwash to try. One was the new brand, one was Listermint and one was green Scope. Not knowing which was which, it was amusing to see a bunch of dedicated users all turn up their noses at their beloved brand, Scope. Unbranded, it "tasted awful." One man actually spit it right back out into the cup with a look of revulsion on his face.
Even more amazing was what happened later. After a period of time when taste buds were allowed to return to a more normal state, the same people were given branded versions of the identical products to try. When they swished with the branded Scope sample, big smiles broke out on their faces. Comments like, "Now that's MY Scope" were made." Even the man who hated Scope when he originally tried it unbranded, was a strong voice in the "We Love Scope" chorus. Inside, I just had to shake my head in amazement at the impact of a strong brand identity."
Link to full article - Identity Crisis - Brand vs. User?: Branding Strategy Insider
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I too have driven many BMW's and would be hard pressed to say that they all drive well or share a common driving characteristic. Yes, they're "sporty" but that has become such a vague and ubiquitous term that it means nothing today. The point I'm trying to highlight is that your assumption of the e92 M3's prowess is based on experiences with other BMW models, which may not have anything in common with this M3. A new version of any car, regardless of manufacturer, holds the potential to redefine the brand, for better OR worse. The new E63 is a perfect example of a new model redefining a brand (AMG), but the recent rise of AMG and fall of M is big debate in itself.
I am neither pro Ford or anti BMW. I simply want to stir up some serious discussion and debate.
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I have driven the Mustang GT and the E46 M3. I would choose the M3 in a heart beat. This comparison is a joke.
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I don't see what for? BMWs drive like BMWs and Fords drive like Fords. No Mustang is as well built, as tight, handles or feels anything like a BMW. Regardless of which ones I have driven. I don't have to assume anything about the BMW, the automotive world has spoke over and over about the current M3, with a lot of corners calling it the best car in the world. Drive a 328i and Fusion SE Sport and the same differences will be there. An overreaching Ford is brilliant, but the BMW M3 is an overreaching, over-achieving BMW.
That said, there is nothing wrong with the Mustang, its just a different type of car. It has a big 5L V8, a live axle and specializes more in torque then wind-it-up hp as the M3 does.
The BMW is the better all arounder, but for a serious price premium. The Mustang is a better straighline car, easier to get up to speed. Stand on it and go, brake torque style. One sets the standard for handling, the other is constantly being tweaked to handle better, year after year.
They're both hugely desireable cars and on the street they're pretty much even performance wise or on an typical U.S. freeway. Anything beyond that and the Mustang is out its league just as the M3 would be feeling nervous at the drag strip. Though either car will do either venue, they just can't each others "thing" as well. If that makes sense.
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What do you mean by BMWs drive like BMWs and Fords drive like Fords? Both manufacturers make a wide variety of vehicles. I doubt the F150 drives like the Mustang or that the 7 series drives like the M3.
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Why is the M3 is a better all around car? That is a broad statement. What qualities do you look for in an all around car? Are they universal to all people? You need to clarify. I'm confused.
You're stereotyping both cars. Why would the M3 be nervous at the drag strip or the Mustang be nervous at the track? Do not confuse the history of these cars with their present incarnations. Maybe the Mustang is the better car. I see no reason why it can't be.
You haven't driven either of the cars mentioned in this comparison.
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Guy, if you don't understand this then there isn't any helping you out here. Common sense says a F150 doesn't drive like a Mustang. Compare apples to apples. Drive a Ford Explorer and a X5 and see what the differences are, same type of vehicle by their respective manufacturers.
Already answered this in previous post.
I'm not stereotyping anything. If you don't know the difference between these 2 cars then there is no need to continue here because you're obviously lost on what these 2 cars are about or what they're strong at. Have you not been paying attention to the Mustangs development? Live axle means constants tweaks every year to get better handling out of it, M3 came out the one of the best handling cars ever, straight out the box. Have you ever driven a Mustang? Ever been in one and hit a bump in a corner? If not then what is the point here?
The only person who would think the Mustang is a better car is the one who wants to spend less and doesn't care for the way the M3 goes about its business. Such qualities I have already mentioned in a previous post.
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