F1 2008 Cars thread.

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 25
  • Start date Start date
Formula 1 news, races, teams, drivers, technology, strategy, and discussion.
D

Deleted member 25

Guest
Ok guys here you will find all about official launches of new cars.
Here is the official Agenda:
Ferrari: 6 jan at Fiorano
McLaren: 7 jan at Stuttgart
Toyota: 10 jan at Cologne
BMW: 14 jan at Munich
Red Bull: 16 jan at Jerez
Honda: 29 jan at Brackley
Renault: 22 jan on track at valencia and official launch for the 31 jan at paris.
Williams will not organize an official launch.

So Today is the big Day For Tifosis and here two images from the official teaser:
http://www.ferrariworld.com/images/ferrari/world/immagini/080001pre.jpg

And for infomation, Rai 2 will air at 17.30 live from Maranello.
 
Ferrari F-2008








F2008: Description and technical specifications

Maranello, 6th January 2008 - The F2008 is the fifty fourth single-seater built by Ferrari specifically to take part in the Formula 1 World Championship.

The design, codenamed internally as the 659, represents the Scuderia's interpretation of the regulations in force in 2008. A major new element of these is the introduction of a new electronic system to be used by all teams, known as SECU (Standard Electronic Control Unit) and produced by MES (McLaren Electronic Systems.) It consists of a single control unit and a software system, the development of which ends as the season begins. Other areas affected by rule changes are: gearbox, which must be used for four consecutive events; safety, with the introduction of higher side protection around the driver's helmet; materials, with a limit to the type of composites that can be used. As a result of these rules, there has been an increase in the weight of the car. All aerodynamic surfaces have been completely revised, however the current version will be replaced by a completely different configuration in time for the first race. In fact, an intensive and all encompassing development programme is planned to run throughout the season. The monococque has been further cut away under the driver's legs and the side pods and engine cover are more tapered. The suspension system has been reworked and developed around the new aerodynamics.

The wheelbase and weight distribution have been adapted to meet the challenge of the new regulations and on the basis of lessons learned last year in terms of the performance of the Bridgestone tyres. Changes to the technical and sporting regulations in terms of electronics, alongside the introduction of the SECU, have led to the removal of a host of a driver aids, such as traction control and engine breaking and the electronically assosted starting system, and also mean that management of the differential, engine and gearchange are much simpler. The gearbox casing is produced in carbon, while the transmission continues to be mounted longitudinally. For the second consecutive year the gearchange is fitted with a quick shift system, adapted to the SECU software and further speeded up. In dealing with the reliability aspect of the new regulations, Shell has played a key role in defining the lubricants for the gearbox. The braking system has been updated with new callipers and innovative concepts regarding cooling.

The 056 engine is mounted longitudinally and continues as a load bearing element. Its basic structure remains unchanged compared to the unit homologated at the start of last season, while its auxiliary systems, air and fuel intakes have been further developed. The technical regulations also call for the use of fuel corresponding to European Union norms, with a content of components derived from biological sources equal to 5.75%. As usual, during the design and development stages of the entire car, our technical partners played an important role. Apart from previously mentioned significant input from Shell, also worthy of note is the contribution of the Fiat Research Centre, especially in providing simulation systems and Brembo for its work in developing the braking system. As is now traditional, a great deal of attention was paid to the performance and optimising of the materials used at the design stage and through quality control, striving to maximise performance levels while attaining the highest possible safety standards.

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS Chassis

Carbon-fibre and honeycomb
composite structure

Ferrari longitudinal gearbox
Limited-slip differential

Semiautomatic sequential
electronically controlled gearbox
quick-shift

Number of gears: 7 + Reverse

Ventiled carbon-fibre
disc brakes
Independent suspension,
push-rod activated torsion
springs front and rear

Weight (with water, lubricant and driver) : 605 kg

BBS Wheels (front and rear) : 13''

Engine

Type: 056

Number of cylinders: 8

Cylinder block in cast
aluminium: V 90°

Number of valves: 32

Pneumatic distribution

Total displacement: 2398 cm3

Piston bore: 98 mm

Weight: <95 kg

Magneti Marelli digital electronic injection

Magneti Marelli static
electronic ignition

Fuel: Shell V-Power ULG 64

Lubrcant: Shell SL-1098
 
Dam you beat me to it, thanks mate for the photos. As usual, the car will look different on the 1st GP, as always.
 
I guess the Mclaren engineers are working overtime trying to measure all the dimensiosn from the photos and studying them really hard.
 
the front wing looks very Toyota-ish....

anyways, not much of a difference between the F2007 in Brazil and the F2008. they said the shortened the wheelbase, and there's the Italian flag to at the chimney...
 
The nosecone look really interesting. Will also be interesting to see what they come up with for the first gp.
 
Technical Analysis by Autosport

Having secured both championships in 2007, Ferrari have been careful not to rest on their laurels, by understanding that McLaren's opposition was challenging and beat the Italian team on reliability and sometimes on outright pace.

In comparison to the 2007 McLaren, the F2007 had its faults, largely being a lack of pace at circuits devoid of fast corners and, to a lesser extent, reliability.

In addition to countering these issues the team have had new rules to contend with; the single ECU (SECU), four race gearboxes and some structural changes affecting the monocoque.

The team's response to these challengers is the new car, the F2008. Outwardly the car is a clear progression from the F2007, with only its Toyota-like nose and new cockpit padding initially suggesting its a new car.

However, the team have worked hard and have completely redesigned the aerodynamics despite initial appearances, as well as the development work to integrate the SECU and the monocoque changes.

The team's first task was to understand the problems with the 2007 car. Technical director Aldo Costa pointed out the team wanted to regain the performance lost on slow, slippery or bumpy tracks without sacrificing the virtues of the F2007's fast corner performance.

This encompassed work on the aerodynamics as well as the suspension. Nick Tombazis, the chief designer, told autosport.com, that this work was not as simple as making the aerodynamics work over a greater range of attitudes. He also suggested that it was not just the aero being too sensitive last year and that the suspensions job was just as important.

In addition to the work to recoup low speed grip, the work also encompassed the needs of the drivers, particularly Kimi Raikkonen after his first year with the team.

Equally, the winter design work needed to make the car sympathetic to the lack of electronic aids, as both traction control and other engine management functions are prohibited from helping the driver control the car going to and out of the corner.

The resulting car is within a few millimetres of the F2007. Costa would not be specific, but did admit the layout of the car was unaltered and only the front wheel position was altered to make the wheelbase change.

What has changed is the aerodynamic treatment under the front of the car, from the bulbous nose conjoined with the Biplane wing ala Toyota TF107, the nose cone is sculpted underneath to make more room for the front wing to work.

This process is aided by the monocoque being raised all the way back to the sidepods, necessitating a bulge in the otherwise smooth shape to clear the drivers hips. This has led Kimi Raikkonen to point out that the cockpit is smaller as he had less space around his thighs than before.

The Ferrari F2008Ferrari have retained the zero keel set-up and again have spaced their upper wishbone mounts from the tub for better geometry.

Around the cockpit opening, the car features the new regulation cockpit sides, higher to react to the near miss between David Coulthard and Alex Wurz back in Australia 2007.

The bulkier cockpit sides are offset slightly by a narrow footwell, as evidenced by the tear-dropped bulges ahead of the cockpit to meet the meet the minimum width rules.

Above the cockpit the engine inlet snorkel is simpler and without the split duct used last year which had one duct feeding the hydraulics cooler. However, the cooler is still mounted behind the engine and fed by a take-off within the airbox.

The sidepods retain the shape of last year, albeit with a lower deck height forcing the exhausts to protrude from the cover. The spine of the engine cover is a lot slimmer, requiring neat little fins to be added to the tail end of the cover to meet the 'toblerone' 305mm width requirement.

Of course, the aerodynamics will be revised with new front and rear wings before the first race and in steps through out the 2008 season. Both the wings, barge boards and cooling ducts on the launch car were taken from the 2007 machine.

Mechanically the car retains its carbon titanium gearbox, albeit the press release saying it was carbon, but Tombazis confirmed to autosport.com that the gear case still used the same construction method as last year.

As the engine is still subject to the engine freeze, development work has largely been to improve tractability by working on the electronics and inlets. To this end and with the huge workload the SECU demanded, Gilles Simon now heads both the engine and electronics group.

This change also bears in mind the Kinetic energy recovery systems allowed by the rules in 2009.
We continue with the comparaison but this Time F-2007 brazilian spec vs F-2008




[/QUOTE]

The New Celebrities from Gestionne Sportiva













 

Attachments

  • 492932174fb4bad5ee86850be1406cfb.webp
  • 6ea580f1c7ccac11492dd8850ff36230.webp
  • fcc9b5e0cb9ba4a83c2e17d9c62d4a99.webp
Baldisserri: ''We haven't been this early with the new car since 1993 !''

Simon about 2009: ''This new organizational structure is set up with regard to 2009 with the development of a system retrieving kinetic energy that will keep us busy a lot this year: in this regard, the synergy between the 2 workinggroups was fairly obvious. We are conducting and will conduct a lot of tests on the testbench, and then we will also go on track to really try it out with energy coming from the engine. This is the second year after the development of the engines has been frozen: From March 2008 the engine was essentially defined and approved of. From that point on we've worked focusing mainly on what is placed above the cilinders: such as the trumpets, the injectors, and the float chamber to optimize the lubrication also. In the wintertime we have also developed a new fuel with the help of Shell: The 2008 regulations demand a 5.75 percentage of bio-fuel. We will already start using this fuel at Jerez next week.''

Almondo on the new teamstructure: ''In the world of a high tech industry, the role I have is essentially a traditional one. For Ferrari this means I will be working on technical issues that do no include in the design of the car. But the team always counts on the same people so that is reassuring. I will concentrate on things such as the logistics, the strategic planning of facilities and investments, the management of the circuits (Fiorano and Mugello - AFCA), the computing centers and acquisitions, technical development as well as taking care of the technological development (as a whole in the factory - AFCA) and the quantity of the partners. In addition, I take care of the management of the A1 GP, of which the cars will be made in collaboration with Ferrari. The start of this championship is a good business chance for us, and garantuees a consolidation of our mark in the Far East. "

On the development of the F2008: ''In 2007 we've worked on 4 substantial developments and many corresponding developments for almost every race. This year we hope to do even better, with refinements scheduled for every race that will be specially made for the circuit. It will be a very difficult job and the the simulations, the windtunnel tests are very important in this respect, as well as the greater number of testbench tests (that will be done) and the electronic technicians because the testdays on track will be little. We try to keep a clear upgoing line of progression from the first Grand Prix onwards with the objective to solve all the problems linked to individual circuits.''

Costa on the aerodynamics: ''The evolution of the aerodynamics have been excellent, the group have worked very well, despite this being the fourth year with the same regulations in place. Despite this we've managed to make this development. Without taking anything away from the working groups in other departments, this car has a lot of hidden new things: we hope this will pay off in terms of reliability and performance.''

On the wheelbase: ''We haven't communicated the dimensions of the car to not give away too many advantages to the competition, but it's clear to everyone that the car is a bit shorter. Particularly, we've reduced the wheelbase a bit considering that last year it was really long.''

On the ban on traction control: ''We've had to improve the driveability of the engine.''

On the gearbox: ''We don't want to take a step back in th performance, we want to maintain the level of performance from 2007, we want to develop the seamless gearbox even more. We have to make a gearbox that lasts 4 races, limiting the weight and the dimensions of the structure of it. The drivers have greater responsability now, with electronic aids they will need to save the gearbox a bit, understanding the behaviour of it well. At the end of the day the technicians are in the hands of those who drive the car.''

Tombazis plays down the shape of the nose: ''The shape is overrated. It derives from the shape of the frontwing (which we haven't seen yet - AFCA).'' On the higher cockpit edges: ''This influences the airflow towards the rear.''
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.
 
i was wondering, anyone got clear pics of the car's rear? i wanna have a look at the wing properly.


:)

that bulge was there last season itself, from the Spanish go onwards. the sidepods, they say it's new. looks pretty much the same to me :)
 
I know him, he has also done hat for the 2007 pre season, his cars look great (i remember his 2007 bimmer that was simply gorgeous) but not realistic :D
 

Trending content


Back
Top