Videos 0-300 km/h: BMW M5 vs AMG E 63 S vs Porsche Panamera Turbo S vs Cadillac CTS-V sport auto

[fuhro]

So here are the results incl. laptimes
If you have some more questions, just ask

1st: BMW M5 (84 points)
Weight: 1904 kg
Tires: Pirelli P Zero
Price (incl relevant options): 128.600€
0-40: 1,2 s
0-100: 3,3 s
0-160: 7,1 s
0-200: 10,9 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 35,0/32,9 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 129,5 m
Slalom: 70,0 kph
Laptime: 1.10,6 min

2nd: Cadillac CTS-V (75 points)
Weight: 1899 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Price (incl relevant options): 98.900€
0-40: 1,5 s
0-100: 4,3 s
0-160: 8,5 s
0-200: 13,2 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,5/34,9 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 146,8 m
Slalom: 69,6 kph
Laptime: 1.12,6 min

3rd: Mercedes-AMG E 63 S (72 points)
Weight: 2040 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Price (incl relevant options): 132.245€
0-40: 1,1 s
0-100: 3,5 s
0-160: 7,3 s
0-200: 11,1 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,3/35,8 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 141,2 m
Slalom: 68,4 kph
Laptime: 1.11,3 min

4th: Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid (69 points)
Weight: 2370 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 N0
Price (incl relevant options): 187.521€
0-40: 1,1 s
0-100: 3,4 s
0-160: 7,5 s
0-200: 11,5 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,2/35,0 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 138,6 m
Slalom: 67,7 kph
Laptime: 1.11,5 min


Next month (11th May) it's time for Autobild's Sachsenring comparison of the four, but this time the standard Panamera Turbo

 

[Zafiro]

M5 quicker up to 200km/h exactly as I said about the videos above. Also the quickest around the track but that was expected?
No 0 to 300km/h or 250km/h?.

Panamera stupidly expensive but nonone cares about prices, right?

Must be the first time ever that bmw have the best brakes.

 

[fuhro]

No 0 to 300km/h or 250km/h?.

Nope, unfortunately not (but AMS has for the E63 and M5)

Must be the first time ever that bmw have the best brakes.

They were mightily impressed by the M5's ABS system

 

[sako97]

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[LaArtist]

So here are the results incl. laptimes
If you have some more questions, just ask

1st: BMW M5 (84 points)
Weight: 1904 kg
Tires: Pirelli P Zero
Price (incl relevant options): 128.600€
0-40: 1,2 s
0-100: 3,3 s
0-160: 7,1 s
0-200: 10,9 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 35,0/32,9 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 129,5 m
Slalom: 70,0 kph
Laptime: 1.10,6 min

2nd: Cadillac CTS-V (75 points)
Weight: 1899 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Price (incl relevant options): 98.900€
0-40: 1,5 s
0-100: 4,3 s
0-160: 8,5 s
0-200: 13,2 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,5/34,9 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 146,8 m
Slalom: 69,6 kph
Laptime: 1.12,6 min

3rd: Mercedes-AMG E 63 S (72 points)
Weight: 2040 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
Price (incl relevant options): 132.245€
0-40: 1,1 s
0-100: 3,5 s
0-160: 7,3 s
0-200: 11,1 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,3/35,8 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 141,2 m
Slalom: 68,4 kph
Laptime: 1.11,3 min

4th: Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid (69 points)
Weight: 2370 kg
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport 4 N0
Price (incl relevant options): 187.521€
0-40: 1,1 s
0-100: 3,4 s
0-160: 7,5 s
0-200: 11,5 s
Braking 100-0 (c/w): 37,2/35,0 m
Braking 200-0 (w): 138,6 m
Slalom: 67,7 kph
Laptime: 1.11,5 min


Next month (11th May) it's time for Autobild's Sachsenring comparison of the four, but this time the standard Panamera Turbo

Did they factor in the price in the points?
That panamera is nearly half a ton heavier than the caddy and smoked it on the lap and the drag. This car is a whole size above the rest. Amazing

Cool for the M5 to claw back one it’s neck on neck.. seems the individual cars and days and drivers is what’s splits the E63S and the M5. Certainly no domination as some were wishing

 

[Deleted member 25]

Suddenly no noise was being heard.

 

[fuhro]

Did they factor in the price in the points?

Yes!
The criteria are Laptime, Slalom, 0-100, 100-0 warm, power to weight ratio and price per point.
Leaving the price aside, the ranking is:
1st: M5 (77 points)
2nd: CTS-V (67 points)
3rd: E63 S (66 points)
3rd: Panamera (66 points)

 

[LaArtist]

Lol f this test then like the other one

 

[Rolf]

Weird that AMS and Sport Auto (sister publications) would use different M5 and E63 S test cars and come up with totally different results. Also strange that this SA test doesn't show the 0-300knh time for each car while they released a 0-300kmh video without a result.

 

[Frankie G]

Lol f this test then like the other one

https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/sa-m5-vs-e63s-vs-pam-turbo-s-vs-cts-v.58178/

 

[klier]

Did they factor in the price in the points?
That panamera is nearly half a ton heavier than the caddy and smoked it on the lap and the drag. This car is a whole size above the rest. Amazing

No, the amazing part is Porsche rendering the Panny completely useless this gen around. Heavy, expensive and 'slow'....

...Just like I've been saying all the time.

The Turbo S hybrid is a joke like few others.

 

[LaArtist]

No, the amazing part is Porsche rendering the Panny completely useless this gen around. Heavy, expensive and 'slow'....

...Just like I've been saying all the time.

The Turbo S hybrid is a joke like few others.

You dont know what the f you are talking about, Find me another car in this size and weight that is this capable. They are going hybrid cause it’s the future, your precious M cars will be hybrids soon to. Some are just before the curve, but bmw will get there as they did with the awd.
They know what they did with this turbo S they know why they did it, but ile give you this , the normal turbo is to little of a sensation, they should have given it around 600-650 hp and had one drivers V8 panamera and one top dog in the S.
But hey it’s not over yet.

Oh and you talk price? You must be slow or something the e class and 5er are f#cking run of the mill family cars and taxis.. this is a Porsche, made from the ground up to be a Porsche from the platform to the engine to the transmission. And it’s a whole class above . And then the brand value of the Porsche, they don’t make a classes and 1 series.. so of the f#cking course all this carries a premium..

So as long as they compare it to Lower class cArs and deducts points for it being expensive they are as slow as you are. And you should really apply for a job at these publications

Oh and yes It’s slow, it’s faster than the M5 to 300, it’s one second slower on a whole f#cking lap, and fractions slower to 100 and 200,, but it’s slow...
I mean you drive the red bull of max verstappen when you drive down to the grocery store I reckon .. slow he said haha get the f out of here.
People on these forums truely live in a la la land .

Oh and also bring your fat ass 760M and see this slow panamera drive circles around it.

Just the versatility alone of these hybrid Porsche’s are amazing, you go 50km without burning fuel, future holds that the city’s will be fossil free, and then the performance boost.
Penalty 350kg of weight, which about f#cking zeeero percent of the customers care about cause they don’t track their sedans, but 99% of forum jockeys cAre about cause they got it twisted and thinks that these cars are LM racers.

Just give me and yourself and everyone around here a god damn brake and shake yourself and come back to reality.

Jesus

 

[CrunchSlaughtered]

No, the amazing part is Porsche rendering the Panny completely useless this gen around. Heavy, expensive and 'slow'....

...Just like I've been saying all the time.

The Turbo S hybrid is a joke like few others.

Except that it has by far the best looks

 

[LaArtist]

Except that it has by far the best looks

Oh right and this

 

[Matski]

You dont know what the f you are talking about, Find me another car in this size and weight that is this capable. They are going hybrid cause it’s the future, your precious M cars will be hybrids soon to. Some are just before the curve, but bmw will get there as they did with the awd.
They know what they did with this turbo S they know why they did it, but ile give you this , the normal turbo is to little of a sensation, they should have given it around 600-650 hp and had one drivers V8 panamera and one top dog in the S.
But hey it’s not over yet.

Oh and you talk price? You must be slow or something the e class and 5er are f$%king run of the mill family cars and taxis.. this is a Porsche, made from the ground up to be a Porsche from the platform to the engine to the transmission. And it’s a whole class above . And then the brand value of the Porsche, they don’t make a classes and 1 series.. so of the f$%king course all this carries a premium..

So as long as they compare it to Lower class cArs and deducts points for it being expensive they are as slow as you are. And you should really apply for a job at these publications

Oh and yes It’s slow, it’s faster than the M5 to 300, it’s one second slower on a whole f$%king lap, and fractions slower to 100 and 200,, but it’s slow...
I mean you drive the red bull of max verstappen when you drive down to the grocery store I reckon .. slow he said haha get the f out of her...

If you're looking for post rant relief... try this...

 

[klier]

You dont know what the f you are talking about, Find me another car in this size and weight that is this capable. They are going hybrid cause it’s the future, your precious M cars will be hybrids soon to. Some are just before the curve, but bmw will get there as they did with the awd.
They know what they did with this turbo S they know why they did it, but ile give you this , the normal turbo is to little of a sensation, they should have given it around 600-650 hp and had one drivers V8 panamera and one top dog in the S.
But hey it’s not over yet.

Oh and you talk price? You must be slow or something the e class and 5er are f$%king run of the mill family cars and taxis.. this is a Porsche, made from the ground up to be a Porsche from the platform to the engine to the transmission. And it’s a whole class above . And then the brand value of the Porsche, they don’t make a classes and 1 series.. so of the f$%king course all this carries a premium..

So as long as they compare it to Lower class cArs and deducts points for it being expensive they are as slow as you are. And you should really apply for a job at these publications

Oh and yes It’s slow, it’s faster than the M5 to 300, it’s one second slower on a whole f$%king lap, and fractions slower to 100 and 200,, but it’s slow...
I mean you drive the red bull of max verstappen when you drive down to the grocery store I reckon .. slow he said haha get the f out of her...

Jesus what a wall of text. Can you just make your point like you used to do?

I'm not going to read those rants.

 

[LaArtist]

Jesus what a wall of text. Can you just make your point like you used to do?

I'm not going to read those rants.

Ok let me sum it up.
You don’t know shit about cars

 

[LaArtist]

If you're looking for post rant relief... try this...

Lol I felt the need for this thank you.

 

[Mick Briesgau]

^ you just gotta love this forum...

 

[hovabongZA]

Can you imagine what the Competition package on pilot sports 4 will do!?

Even Porsche can’t perform miracles, I did say that there’s simply no way it would beat the M5 on track with that weight....it’s just not competitive in this segment. Complete domination by the M5 on this test.

.....and how the hell is the M5 only 5kg heavier than the CTS-V with AWD ....


This test made my Friday!