What's up with the Mercedes HATE recently?

[cawimmer430]

The recent alliance between Daimler and Nissan/Renault has no doubt been the talk of town on the Internet. Because of this, and out of curiosity, I've been browsing the web and reading on various Infiniti/Nissan forums and auto blog sites the different responses to this alliance.

The results are shocking.

There seems to be a lot of HATE directed towards Mercedes.


For example, the typical response to the Daimler-Nissan/Renault merger was:

"Daimler allied themselves with Chrysler in order to rape and pillage them. They're doing the same right now with Nissan. Ghosn is a dumbass for having accepted this deal".

"MB is a joke. underpowered unrefined and underperforming engines and boring to drive cars and they are ugly to. their ugly designs will now influeence Infiniti cars. such a shame."

"There goes Infiniti quality/reliability!"


Wimmer: After reading such silly comments like these, I wish Mercedes would rape/pillage Nissan/Infiniti and dump them!



Then, when the news came out that the Infiniti G will be receiving 4-cylinder engines from Mercedes, people went nuts:

"Nissan already has 4-cylinder engines. They don't need unreliable and underperforming Mercedes 4-cylinder engines that can't even use a turbo!"

"Mercedes engines are junk and unreliable. My dad's C230 Kompressor is always in the shop."

"W T F? Infiniti has the VQ. Mercedes doesn't have the VQ. Enuff said!!"

"Nissan has always made better engines than mercedes. this is a wrong move. it should be the other way around mercedes needs nissan engines to be halfway credible."

"A 4 cylinder Infiniti G is not a luxury car. You may as well get a V6 Camry because its faster."

"All Mercedes engines are junk except the AMG V8. I would rather see that motor in the Infiniti G."

"German car reliability is straight out trash. It's a scam that they even sell."


Wimmer: Ah, the old "German cars = unreliable" argument. Since when are Mercedes engines junk or unreliable? I can name countless examples of Mercedes-Benz vehicles that have traveled millions of kilometers on the same engine and transmission. And I can't name (or have even heard) of a single Nissan (much less an Infiniti) that has managed this feat (although I am sure they're out there).



Recently, the news hit the stands that the next-generation G and M would be built on the Mercedes E-Class platform:

"Man now the infiniti m will be the most unreliable and boring car in its class! I will leave inifniti if this happens!"

"oh god infiniti will be such an unreliable brand now!"

"are they kidding me? the best handling car in its class is going to get a euro taxi platform?"

"Typical Mercedes. They will give the next generation Infiniti's an outdated platform while basing their next E class on a newly developed one. Guys, I was one of the first to say this and it has come true; Mercedes is doing the Chrysler thing all over again.."


Wimmer: Wow, the moment the word "platform sharing" is used people immediately think that car B will get the same setup as car A. A platform is a friggin platform. The suspension tuning will be the decisive factor on how your rebadged Nissan drives, Infiniti nutcases.



Is it me, or is the Internet full of friggin morons?


What's with the Mercedes hate? These guys insecure about their ovepriced and rebadged Nissan's or something?


It's pretty obvious none of these people have any idea what they're talking about. Over 90% of the comments regarding the Daimler-Nissan/Renault alliance were negative - and those few open-minded comments were pretty much ignored or criticized by the masses. Again, most of these negative comments were excerpts from various auto blog sites and especially Nissan/Infiniti forums. Strangely, the folks on Toyota/Lexus or Acura forums were more open minded about this issue than those Infiniti nutcases.

I know that many of thee people are immature and just plain stupid morons, but there were also some well-structured and argued posts that indicated a certain level of intelligence and complex thought on the posters behalf that were full of hate or some BS make-believe-fact they came up with or heard somewhere.



The funny thing was a thread on an Infiniti board about the new FX diesel. Most of the posters in that thread were proclaiming the engineering prowess of Nissan/Infiniti and "how this is a proper diesel engine" etc.

^That diesel engine is an existing Renault designed and engineered engine that is now in use in the FX diesel.^

And what's even more funny is that these same people on this board claimed that "They wouldn't touch anything Renault made."


Epic. Friggin. Stupid. Morons.

FAIL

 

[Kowalski]

You should extend the question to:

What's up with the BMW and Mercedes HATE recently?

Look Chris, in the end this is the internet and like the traffic, there are a lot idiots lurking about. My advice to you is to simply ignore them.

 

[LaArtist]

I read the first few lines of your post man..and didnt care to read the rest..
And thats no diss to you..
Its just that its so low quality and crappy that it makes me sick..

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Chris my friend....

...you do know there is a global economic crisis right?

...you do know that we human beings have a limited life span...and that there is a reason why the saying "life's too short" was created and is continually repeated?


Why on earth are you even bothered about what some people think about MB? Why does it bug you so much? ....and why oh why have you got nothing more important or stressing or enjoyable to do than to create a thread here about this issue?

Chris, take some time-off all the internet car forums and just relax buddy.

 

[Sunny]

Lol, Wimmer you are a masochist. This is the internet, you can find any opinion if you go looking for it, heck I bet you can find people who diss Mother Theresa. So why go looking for stuff?

And I bet one could find as much ignorant drivel about how all Japanese cars are cheap econo boxes crap in, ahem, a "German car forum".

 

[Potential]

I think you also need to become more accepting and less critical of other people. Not everyone has the same opinions as you do. A take a lot of this from the immature and downright rude captions you put on your pictures. Do you even know the people you are critising? You need to respect others, and if I might say, their privacy...

 

[HighestOfHigh]

Yea I actually saw some comments like this as well on some other forums. I think some people hate on Mercedes simply because they can't afford it.

 

[Sovereign]

As far as engineering and car design (form follw function) are concerned, Mercedes has been at the top for the most part of the last century, and even with all the problems of the early part of 21st century, the 3 pointed star is the brand to desire. When a brand is at the top for so long, and they are pretty aggressive too just look at F1, they have their own team and supplying engine to almost half of the teams, emotions may be extreme. People love to see the underdogs taking over the establishement. And even a small mistake by the top performer is usually scrutunized in detail while the underdogs' big mistakes may be overlooked.

I just read an article on one of the site on a recent survey on the most high quality auto brands and the results were not unexpected. None of the German brands were there and Toyota was among the top 5 even with all the recent pedal issues. In my opinion people are quite forgiving towards Toyota which is ok since companies are run by people and they may make mistakes, however I feel that people are not so forgiving towards Mercedes quality woes of past and they still trash Mercedes brand when most of the quality issues are taken care off quite a while ago.

We Mercedes fans should not be disheartend due to its brand bashing. This happens because the brand is the pinnacle in the automotive world. Otherwise none will be talking about it, positively or negatively.

 

[Beemer B773ER]

And I bet one could find as much ignorant drivel about how all Japanese cars are cheap econo boxes crap in, ahem, a "German car forum".

Spot on Sunny!

Looks like this thread has come full-circle very quickly.

 

[Steve]

I just think all german car are crap especially MB

on a serious note, who cares what these people think? everyone entitled to an opinion.

opinions are like bumholes, everyones got one and in general they all stink lol