Discuss What makes a 'Daily driver'?

[dalab]

Why argue for what a car is a "daily" , when "daily car" is such a subjective sentence.

Who can decide if a car is daily for someone , either than the owner himself?

In my case, it would be one that doesn't stress me out taking too much care of it if I run a lot on the street all day, getting on and off people, hard and soft things, it should have its share of practicality and, above all, a certain suspension comfort..

Where do I put the groceries?

That car is to enjoy going 100 times to the store....small groceries in your pockets...one at a time

 

[Matski]

Where do I put the groceries?

Pretty sure that under Group C Le Mans cars still required space enough for a passenger and luggage, hence two seater 962 road cars.

Plenty of space there for a tube of Pringles and 4-pack of Red Bull.

 

[kiki voinea]

In my case, it would be one that doesn't stress me out taking too much care of it if I run a lot on the street all day, getting on and off people, hard and soft things, it should have its share of practicality and, above all, a certain suspension comfort..

Agree. But this cannot be said for others...

I'd say that a daily driver for any person is the car that it makes them feel good in most ways.

So , highly subjective...

 

[Big Sam]

Agree. But this cannot be said for others...

I'd say that a daily driver for any person is the car that it makes them feel good in most ways.

So , highly subjective...

It's got nothing to do with "feeling good". It's widely accepted in car circles that a "daily driver" is something that is practical. Period. Hence the term "daily" driver. Just because somebody would accept the impracticalities of daily driving an Aventador, it doesn't make it a "daily driver" as defined by most car enthusiasts.

 

[kiki voinea]

as defined by most car enthusiasts.

So, you practically admit that is subjective...

You do know that most car drivers are NOT car enthusiasts , right?

What is impractical to you does not mean is impractical to me. We are not all the same.

And absolutely nobody can "define" what is good or wrong for me. Especially "car enthusiasts"

 

[KiwiRob]

Pretty sure that under Group C Le Mans cars still required space enough for a passenger and luggage, hence two seater 962 road cars.

Plenty of space there for a tube of Pringles and 4-pack of Red Bull.

The Dauer 962's interior looks snug. Moving the gear stick was a good idea.

 

[Big Sam]

So, you practically admit that is subjective...

Again, the term "daily driver" means a car that is suitable for use on a "daily" basis. . That definition ISN'T subjective. It certainly has nothing to do with making you "feel good", which is what you said. Depending on your choice, a daily driver "could" make you feel good (maybe your daily is an M5?), but it's not what defines that category of car.

What is subjective is what each individual can put up with on a daily basis.

What is impractical to you does not mean is impractical to me. We are not all the same.

That's literally what I said. If you choose to have an Aventador as your daily driver, then that's your choice, but it doesn't change what is meant by the term "daily driver".

I can't believe I am having to explain this.

 

[kiki voinea]

Again, the term "daily driver" means a car that is suitable for use on a "daily" basis. . That definition ISN'T subjective. It certainly has nothing to do with making you "feel good", which is what you said. Depending on your choice, a daily driver "could" make you feel good (maybe your daily is an M5?), but it's not what defines that category of car.

What is subjective is what each individual can put up with on a daily basis.




That's literally what I said. If you choose to have an Aventador as your daily driver, then that's your choice, but it doesn't change what is meant by the term "daily driver".

I can't believe I am having to explain this.

Because your explination is sorted to your will.

You say that a daily driver is a car suitable for a daily basis. Ok

But then you say that "it does not define that category of the car if it only makes you feel good"

What?! THERE IS NO DEFINITION FOR THIS WORDS ! IT IS SUBJECTIVE !

You don't have to explain anything.You just have to be less selfish and start reading what others have to say.

I said and I repeat: Daily driver is a car that you or me or anyone can use on a daily basis. AND NOTHING MORE TO ADD.

So yes ,an Aventador is a perfect daily drive if it makes you feel good and it can drive you from A to B . Can fit a bag in the frunk , so I don't mind the missing trunk. I don't drink coffee so I don't mind the missing cup holder. I am a super active guy (sports wise) with a CanAm Ryker for a daily driver when is hot outside , so I don't mind the harsh suspension. I drive to my office only on the streets , in town , so I don't need offroad capabilities.

So , if you don't mind , you could explain to me why an Aventador would not be a daily driver to me given the reasons above?

 

[Big Sam]

So , if you don't mind , you could explain to me why an Aventador would not be a daily driver to me given the reasons above?

I've already answered this in the post you're quoting, but you're so focused on arguing your point that you're not taking it in. I suggest you go back and re-read.

 

[kiki voinea]

I've already answered this in the post you're quoting, but you're so focused on arguing your point that you're not taking it in. I suggest you go back and re-read.

You answered with YOUR arguments , not mine. Because you are selfish.

Be it your way.

I can daily drive an Aventador with ease.And a GT3. You can't. So be it

 

[Sunny]

I've already answered this in the post you're quoting, but you're so focused on arguing your point that you're not taking it in. I suggest you go back and re-read.

FWIW Betty, I completely get your point. And agree.

But sadly, the Internet makes stating the most obvious and straightforward thing a painful and regretful movement in life. Why I hardly post anymore. Just not worth it.

 

[Big Sam]

FWIW Betty, I completely get your point. And agree.

But sadly, the Internet makes stating the most obvious and straightforward thing a painful and regretful movement in life. Why I hardly post anymore. Just not worth it.

Thanks for that, Sunny. I thought I was going mad.

It's amazing what people argue about on here. I've gone back through the conversation from when I joined it, and it's crazy how once someone gets a seed of what they *think* you're saying, nothing can ever change that train of thought, despite trying to make it as clear as possible.

I'm tempted to have one last try, but maybe later.

 

[Fastpaddy]

You answered with YOUR arguments , not mine. Because you are selfish.

Be it your way.

I can daily drive an Aventador with ease.And a GT3. You can't. So be it

Have you owned a supercar before?

 

[klier]

Have you owned a supercar before?

The point is that these supercars are all daily drivers. Tame and civilized. Practicality is one way to look at it, but only people with not enough money look at it that way.

What is daily and what is not daily is not up to Big Sam to decide, not even when he capitalizes certain words that fit in his way of reasoning.

F'ing hell, in what way is an Aventador less daily than a BMW Z4 or Mercedes SL? Stop the hypocritical nonsense.

 

[kiki voinea]

Thanks for that, Sunny. I thought I was going mad.

It's amazing what people argue about on here. I've gone back through the conversation from when I joined it, and it's crazy how once someone gets a seed of what they *think* you're saying, nothing can ever change that train of thought, despite trying to make it as clear as possible.

I'm tempted to have one last try, but maybe later.

Arrogance combined with selfish....Oh , the GCF users this days on a few words. Lovely

 

[Big Sam]

The point is that these supercars are all daily drivers. Tame and civilized. Practicality is one way to look at it, but only people with not enough money look at it that way.

What is daily and what is not daily is not up to Big Sam to decide, not even when he capitalizes certain words that fit in his way of reasoning.

F'ing hell, in what way is an Aventador less daily than a BMW Z4 or Mercedes SL? Stop the hypocritical nonsense.

I joined this discussion to question Kiki's definition of what "daily driver" means. Not the car, but what the *definition* means. Daily driver simply means a car that someone uses on a daily basis. That's it. It implies that someone with a daily driver would also have at least one other car, and the daily driver would usually be the most practical car in their fleet.

What Kiki said was:

"I'd say that a daily driver for any person is the car that it makes them feel good in most ways".

As a native English speaker, what Kiki is saying there is that a daily driver is only a daily driver if it makes them feel good, which is clearly not true.

I think Kiki is Finnish, so I'm no way disparaging his English abilities, but you have to understand there are subtilities in language that can change the meaning of a sentance entirely. I have to have an ELPAC (English Language Proficiency testing for Air Traffic controllers) rating to do my job, measured from 1 to 6, with 4 or more needed to pass. Most native English speakers are assessed at level 5 (some do get 4). The way my employer administers the test is that you're only invited to take level 6 if you show a particular proclivity for understanding the subtle nuances of English. I was invited and I passed the level 6 exam. This kind of misunderstanding is typical of the questions you can be asked.

As for an Aventador being *as* daily as a Z4. That is clearly utter nonsense. There's no subjectivity there. It simply isn't on every conceivable level, from practicality, servicing, entering car parks, actually fitting inside car park spaces, or driving comfort. Just because Kiki says he would drive an Aventador as a daily, it doesn't then mean an Aventador is suddenly a car which most people would call a typical "daily" car.

For some reason Kiki now has a bee in his bonnet that I was questioning *his* choice of daily, even though I wasn't questioning it. I was simply saying his choice wouldn't be typical.

But, it's like Matski says. What you choice of daily would be is a weird flex, summed up by quoting Kiki himself:

"I can daily drive an Aventador with ease. And a GT3. You can't. So be it."

As an owner of an R8 V10 manual, which is often cited as a high performance car you can drive daily, not once have I been in my 3 Series, trying to find a parking space in a busy city centre and thought, "I wish I was in my R8 now". If that makes me less macho, so be it.

 

[martinbo]

Oh good heavens the numb nut logic in this thread around the daily drivability of certain cars is frankly hilarious.

I’ve driven an Aventador. It’s horrible to the point that it’s borderline unusable in the daily grind of normal driving demands. It’s so wide that, at best you’re going to kerb a rim in a basement parking lot, or worse scrape the side on a pillar. It’s just a matter of time. It’s so low that you’ll have wrecked the front splitter on paved driveway entrances and speed humps in a matter of days. In traffic, outward visibility is so poor that you’d be wishing you were in a Picanto when trying to navigate rush hour. I dare you to park an Aventador in a standard parking bay at the local shopping mall just to see how many times someone whacks their door into your expensive paintwork. Don’t even get me started on sharply angled driveways or how the gearbox is so shite that 20 minutes into your morning commute will get you so irritated you had rather stayed home.

What’s even more disheartening though is the psychological torture of putting such a machine in conditions it was least intended for. WTF will you be benefiting from your 6.5 litre, V12 in the urban crawl? You’ll feel like a pillock because, deep down, you’ll know you ARE a pillock.

As good to drive as my 981 is, I always prefer my G20 for daily use because it’s better for the job. 992 GT3 usable on a daily basis? Conceivably, yes. Could you? Yes. In real life, would anyone? Yes, if they’re a pillock.

 

[rollo]

Oh good heavens the numb nut logic in this thread around the daily drivability of certain cars is frankly hilarious.

I’ve driven an Aventador. It’s horrible to the point that it’s borderline unusable in the daily grind of normal driving demands. It’s so wide that, at best you’re going to kerb a rim in a basement parking lot, or worse scrape the side on a pillar. It’s just a matter of time. It’s so low that you’ll have wrecked the front splitter on paved driveway entrances and speed humps in a matter of days. In traffic, outward visibility is so poor that you’d be wishing you were in a Picanto when trying to navigate rush hour. I dare you to park an Aventador in a standard parking bay at the local shopping mall just to see how many times someone whacks their door into your expensive paintwork. Don’t even get me started on sharply angled driveways or how the gearbox is so shite that 20 minutes into your morning commute will get you so irritated you had rather stayed home.

What’s even more disheartening though is the psychological torture of putting such a machine in conditions it was least intended for. WTF will you be benefiting from your 6.5 litre, V12 in the urban crawl? You’ll feel like a pillock because, deep down, you’ll know you ARE a pillock.

As good to drive as my 981 is, I always prefer my G20 for daily use because it’s better for the job. 992 GT3 usable on a daily basis? Conceivably, yes. Could you? Yes. In real life, would anyone? Yes, if they’re a pillock.

"Pillock" is a nice way to say what you are thinking......

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

992 GT3 usable on a daily basis? Conceivably, yes. Could you? Yes. In real life, would anyone? Yes, if they’re a pillock

Being a pillock for dailying a non-Touring GT3? Perhaps.

Dailying a Touring GT3 with a axle lift? Not so much a pillock, just someone who enjoys driving, has an incredibly strong and healthy back with no problems, and has very little qualms in seeing the resale value drop by accruing so many miles.

The GTS or trims below it seem better suited for the daily grind, but if you can put up with the compromises that come with the GT3, I wouldn't fault anyone with doing daily duty in a GT3, Touring or otherwise.

 

[kiki voinea]

Ok plush boys. Be it your way.

As a relative to me had the Aventador, and Aventador SV after , and had few to many trips with him , I can confidently say that it's a perfectly daily driver without being "pillock" or whatever adjectives you can find on google.

And I will conclude my oppinion by saying that this forum is FULL of hypocrites.

Why?

Because if you buy a supercar and drive it daily , you are a pillock or moron or show-off.

So why buy a supercar then?

Well , by GCF logic , to drive it on the track...Like most owners do , of course....Hahaha

Also , if you have a car that does supercar stuff , like having 1000000 hp and having 0-100 in 2 and something seconds , but also having 4 seats and being a daily driver as per GCF rules , "it's not the same thing".

But that's a first , I must admit : Saying that you are stupid for driving an supercar daily , this is next level logic .... Hahaha

That's all I've got for today. Go away now...