US sales: October 2006: BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Porsche, VW

[Zafiro]

Ofcourse do you even have to ask??

yes thats why I asked.

 

[LaArtist]

^good for you.. when we are in the buisness of asking questions about obvious things..
let me ask you..
are you from sweden?
do you like BMW´s?

cause i really really need to ask

 

[Zafiro]

^good for you.. when we are in the buisness of asking questions about obvious things..
let me ask you..
are you from sweden?
do you like BMW´s?

cause i really really need to ask

yep, good guess, 2 out of 2, not bad

 

[LaArtist]

thank you .. i do my best

 

[MB_AD]

I want to see where BMW will be if thier car's price will be same as MB's too expensive cars. Or who wil buy BMW if Mercedes makes thier cars cheaper???

 

[bum-man]

Well, Mercedes did drop the price of the R-class considerably.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

I want to see where BMW will be if thier car's price will be same as MB's too expensive cars. Or who wil buy BMW if Mercedes makes thier cars cheaper???

In some cases, relative to model variants and markets, there are BMWs that are more expensive.

Nevertheless, if BMW boosts prices too much and the cars won't sell, they'll need incetives = bad.

MB on the other hand can't reduce prices too much, because it would reduce its profit margins or even worse (MBs while usually more expensive generate less profits, and there's also the money loosing Smart).

 

[Bruce]

Thanks for the figures Tine.

 

[Bruce]

While were on the subject of Sales, here's how Toyota, General Motors and Ford stacked up for October:

The Daily Auto Insider
Thursday, November 2, 2006

"General Motors posted a 17.3 percent leap in October sales as its truck and sport-utility vehicle sales surged by 33.2 percent.
Toyota's U.S. sales increased 9.2 percent and Ford reported an 8 percent rise, but Chrysler's sales slipped 1.6 percent. Indeed, Ford outsold Toyota for the month, with a total of 214,806 vehicles in October, compared to Toyota's 189,011.

Ford said it sold 22.1 percent more cars last month than in the year-ago period as sales of trucks and sport-utility vehicles crept up 0.76 percent. The figures include the Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Jaguar, Volvo and Land Rover brands.

Sales at Chrysler dropped 3.2 percent in October.
Nissan reported a 3.9 percent increase in October sales over the same month last year, with an 8.2 percent increase in truck sales and a 0.1 percent rise in car sales for its Nissan and Infiniti brands.
Honda's October sales saw its trucks rise by 11.2 percent while its cars slid by 8.8 percent."

 

[Beemer B773ER]

Geez.. Ford reported monthly sales which are equivalent to BMW's YTD sales!

Ofcourse that's not real suprise coz you'd expect Ford to far outsell BMW, but actually seeing those numbers for the first time caught me by suprise a little.

200,000 per month... where the hell do all these cars go?!!

Even MORE of a shock (to me) was Toyota being outsold in the US. Oks wait a second... it says:

The figures include the Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Jaguar, Volvo and Land Rover brands.

So in truth the Ford Group as a whole recorded those sales numbers... not Ford itself. What brands come under the Toyota umbrella? Toyota, Lexus, Scion... anything else?

 

[Bruce]

What brands come under the Toyota umbrella? Toyota, Lexus, Scion... anything else?

For the automotive market, Toyota Corp owns Toyota, Lexus and Scion. Those are the only ones i'm aware of.

 

[RikfromBelgium]

It makes sense that diesels took off last month...uh...they just went on sale on Oct 15th. Now if this was BMW being able to sell more V12s during a time in which gas prices are on American's minds you'd be all over the place with praise, but no because it is Mercedes it isn't impressive. Please spare me this BS. Ditto as to the reasons why BMW sales are down. I already know why they're down, no excuses needed. So what about BMW's models, and what BMW got coming. Mercedes has models coming too and they'll be fine thank you.

And no it doesn't strike me as odd at all...sales do types of things from month to month. All these figures mean is that dealers ordered more E's, V12s and diesels last month relative to 2005.

M

well duh they're selling more V12 cars. It's nothing special, even with the current petrol price? You know why? In which cars are these V12 engine's? NEW S-class, NEW CL-class, FACELIFTED SL. It would be really bad if they couldn't even sell more V12 with NEW cars all the way. And do you really think people who have the money to buy these cars really think about petrol prices? No, not really.

 

[Merc1]

well duh they're selling more V12 cars. It's nothing special, even with the current petrol price? You know why? In which cars are these V12 engine's? NEW S-class, NEW CL-class, FACELIFTED SL. It would be really bad if they couldn't even sell more V12 with NEW cars all the way. And do you really think people who have the money to buy these cars really think about petrol prices? No, not really.

Well duh yourself, the SL600, S600 and SL65 have been on sale since April-May and the new CL isn't on sale yet so you're wrong there. Period. Please get the facts before posting. Secondly you're right people that buy these cars don't care about the actual price of gas, but some of they may care about what others think about them buying such a lavish car.

M

 

[Merc1]

Some Canadian Sales Numbers:

Winners (October 2006 vs. October 2005)
Audi - up 4.9% (up 13.4% YTD)
BMW - up 12.1% (up 11.8% YTD)
DaimlerChrysler - up 0.8% (down 0.8% YTD)
Ford - up 19.9% (up 7.8% YTD)
Hyundai - up 10.4% (up 6.5% YTD)
Kia - up 9.1% (up 6.0% YTD)
Lexus - up 0.4% (up 21.9% YTD)
Mazda - up 7.9% (up 4.1% YTD)
Mercedes-Benz - up 21.0% (up 25.0%YTD)
Mitsubishi - up 2.8% (up 10.9% YTD)
Nissan - up 40.6% (down 8.4% YTD)
Saab - up 207.8% (up 23.2% YTD)
Suzuki - up 9.0% (up 23.9% YTD)
Toyota - up 9.5% (up 12.8% YTD)
Volkswagen - up 18.2% (up 9.8% YTD)

Losers (October 2006 vs. October 2005)
Acura - down 5.9% (down 8.1% YTD)
General Motors - down 10.4% (down 8.1% YTD)
Honda - down 8.6% (up 7.1% YTD)
Infiniti - down 11.8% (down 16.3% YTD)
Jaguar - down 39.4%% (down 22.0% YTD)
Land Rover - down 18.4% (up 26.7%YTD)
MINI - down 9.2% (down 4.2% YTD)
Porsche - down 6.4% (down 3.8% YTD)
Smart - down 44.5% (down 15.0% YTD)
Subaru - down 4.0% (up 2.1% YTD)
Volvo - down 38.2% (down 11.2% YTD)

http://www.autonorth.ca/home/2006/11/2/canadian-new-vehicle-sales-up-28-in-october.html

M

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Well duh yourself, the SL600, S600 and SL65 have been on sale since April-May and the new CL isn't on sale yet so you're wrong there. Period. Please get the facts before posting. Secondly you're right people that buy these cars don't care about the actual price of gas, but some of they may care about what others think about them buying such a lavish car.

M

Merc, speaking from experience, don't bother with Ricky.

 

[PanterroR]

Merc, speaking from experience, don't bother with Ricky.

You really like to fight with Rik, don't you? What do you want in this thread? Another fight between two of you?

Please, this is just a warning in advance.


http://www.germancarforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

 

[RikfromBelgium]

don't worry Tycoon

 

[PanterroR]

In fact, i am worried and have to watch you two Schumis and Alonsos not to make a chaos of this thread, so be cool and have fun!

 

[RikfromBelgium]

In fact, i am worried and have to watch you two Schumis and Alonsos not to make a chaos of this thread, so be cool and have fun!

Like I said, don't worry

 

[RikfromBelgium]

Well duh yourself, the SL600, S600 and SL65 have been on sale since April-May and the new CL isn't on sale yet so you're wrong there. Period. Please get the facts before posting. Secondly you're right people that buy these cars don't care about the actual price of gas, but some of they may care about what others think about them buying such a lavish car.

M

Weak arguments. You know that the summer periode, just after the release is a weaker period for car sales, so a surge after that periode is normal. Not forgetting low inventory at the beginning of sales. As for CL, if this is still the old CL, well than I'm sure there are A LOT of bargains to do.
And as for caring about what other people may think? WHY on earth would you wanna do that