Discuss Ultimate Garage, Pt III 2022-onward


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Not a single BMW in that list but I get you and can see why not.

But no Rolls Royce Ghost II in that list??? 😱

A travesty.

😜😜😜
 
Just 15

S63 AMG
Chiron Supersport
E500 (W124)
SL600 (R129)
SF90 XX Spider
812 Competizone Aperta
Continental GTC Muliner
Range Rover SV
LC500 Convertible
Utopia
911 GT3
Countach (the new one)
DB12 Volante
Land Cruiser (J250)
Continental T

Bonus: Spectre

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Have to say, had a hard time deciding between the F12tdf and the 812 Comp. The latter one is just out of this world looks-wise.

Kudos on that R129 btw, such a gem that car.
 
I think the most well-rounded daily-driving car on sale right now is the M-B E450 All-Terrain. Spec that in Verde Silver, Tonka Brown Nappa Leather, and natural grain brown maple wood trim WITHOUT the SuperScreen, and you have *chef's kiss.* This may be the most appealing M-B in their current line-up that's not a G-wagen. Yes, I find it more appealing than the current AMG GT and S-class. I think it engenders M-B's core values, at least, what were their core values: quality, confident design, useful tech, solid pwertrain, etc. The only mild sore spot is the need to put the three-pointed star in the taillights. In and of itself, it looks fine, but when you consider it's a not-so-subtle nod to their emblem, I just can't help get a whiff of desperation.

I think the new 4Runner will make a welcoming addition to the list. In Trailhunter guise, it's admittedly over-the-top, but dammit, I love how it looks.

Now, onto the list.....
Porsches
718 GT4 RS...I'll go deaf, but I'll enjoy it too. Probably.
718 Boxster GTS 4.0....Yeah, the Spyder RS should have been a shoe-in, but as a livable soft-top where I want minimal fuss, that roof looks needlessly annoying.
992 S/T...The hype got me, but....
992 GT3....I think this would be my favorite 992 911.
991.2 GT3....I saw one today, and I still love this thing.
997 GT3 RS 4.0....it's a modern legend.
993 Turbo....one of those Porsches that sucked me in as a wee lad. It has to be in Arena Red. Has to be.
930 Turbo slant nose
959
Carrera GT
918 Spyder
2nd gen Panamera with the Sport Turismo body.

Ferrari
599 GTO... I don't care how many successive generations of the Berlinetta Speciales they come out with, this will likely always be numero uno to me, but....
550 Maranello...in the last few years, I've grown to appreciate it's perfect, elegant proportions.
F40...because legend.
F50...because underappreciated legend with an F1-derived engine.
250 GTO....because I'm classy AF *cue scene of Nic Cage in Gone in Sixty Seconds* ;)
458 Speciale.... last NA V8.
F12 TdF....peak modern Ferrari. Pininfarina-derived design with an interior that's not all capacitive touch switchgear and screens.
12Cilindri Spyder....the name forbodes the last of V12 from Ferrari as we currently know them: no turbos, no electrification. Basically no faff. It looks good, and in Spider guise, doesn't have as much black-panelling in the rear. Having said that, I may be smitten by its new-ness.
F430 Scuderia...just holds a special place in my heart. The 16M may have been the first Ferrari I've ever sat in and I remember how perfect it felt.
LaFerrari....let's just forget the V12 hybrid powertrain with oodles of oomph and trick aero, and let's focus on the design. This modern Ferrari has some of the most interesting design details. I imagine every time you stare at it, you'll discover something new. OK, now add back the V12 and aero back into the equation, and you got something pretty darn special.
288 GTO
Enzo.....everything is great, but their homage to F1 design and the lack of subtlety sometimes ages it badly to my eyes.
Note: I'm sure I am missing something iconic.

Lamborghini
Huracan Perfomante.....Green on gold wheels.
Diablo SV....because NFS III
Countach.....the first supercar as we know it? Probably.

McLaren
720S....I thinks its design is iconic. Tons of quirks.
P1....Brutal. In black, it makes H.R. Geiger proud.

GMA
T.33....Cossie-developed high-revving V12 in an attractive package that Gordon Murray fussed over? Yes, please and make it a Spider!

Aston Martin
Vanquish S Volante....peak A-M, IMO. VH A-M's were a masterclass in GT design.
Vanquish S.... it's so good-looking that, while in Volante form, it'd be delight for 4 out of 5 senses. But to truly appreciate its design, you also need to see how it looks in its coupe form. Honestly, and this maybe an unpopular opinion, but this is one of those rare instances where the Zagato versions were NOT better looking than what it was based on.

Bentley
3rd Gen Conti GTC....one of the best high-end luxury cars made. Melds modern and classical very well. I'll take the V8, please.
Mulsanne
Early 2000's Continental R

Rolls-Royce
Dawn....still want to drive this along the French Rivera
2nd gen Ghost EWB....if I want to be chaufferred but find the Phantom to be a bit "much" ;)


Audi
Ur Quattro....rally icon, and because this is the closest thing to it....
RS3
1st gen R8 V10.....iconic German mid-rear design that's not a Porsche.
1st or 2nd gen S7 or RS7. Best looking 4-door Audi.

Chevrolet
Corvette C8 Z06
Corvette C8 ZR1
C6 Z06
C4 ZR-1
Camaro ZL1

Ford
GT
Mustang Shelby GT350

Dodge
1969 Charger

Pagani
Zonda

Lexus
LFA.....like the 599GTO, I don't foresee my adoration for this car will ever wane.
1st gen SC
LC500....in Nori Green or Copper, probably a convertible to better enjoy the NA V8.
GX550....yes, 4Runner is similar, but they did such a good job.
2nd gen GS....particularly, the GS430 gave the German exec cars a run for their money.
1st gen LS400....shifter of luxury sedan paradigms.
4th gen LS....I think LS460 is a handsome and elegant design.
1st gen IS
IS500...NA V8 in a relatively small car is lovely formula.

Ugh, I am tired...I'll continue later and, yes, I am taking the "ULTIMATE" to the extreme! BMW, M-B, Maser, Alfa, Bugatti, Toyota, Honda, Restomods, and more to come. This list will be so long, it'll make @Merc1 look like he's slacking on the job!
 
Right now ? Money no object...good home charging possibilities...

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What I would currently perceive as "the ideal car". For me.
 
I think the most well-rounded daily-driving car on sale right now is the M-B E450 All-Terrain. Spec that in Verde Silver, Tonka Brown Nappa Leather, and natural grain brown maple wood trim WITHOUT the SuperScreen, and you have *chef's kiss.* This may be the most appealing M-B in their current line-up that's not a G-wagen. Yes, I find it more appealing than the current AMG GT and S-class. I think it engenders M-B's core values, at least, what were their core values: quality, confident design, useful tech, solid pwertrain, etc. The only mild sore spot is the need to put the three-pointed star in the taillights. In and of itself, it looks fine, but when you consider it's a not-so-subtle nod to their emblem, I just can't help get a whiff of desperation.

I think the new 4Runner will make a welcoming addition to the list. In Trailhunter guise, it's admittedly over-the-top, but dammit, I love how it looks.

Now, onto the list.....
Porsches
718 GT4 RS...I'll go deaf, but I'll enjoy it too. Probably.
718 Boxster GTS 4.0....Yeah, the Spyder RS should have been a shoe-in, but as a livable soft-top where I want minimal fuss, that roof looks needlessly annoying.
992 S/T...The hype got me, but....
992 GT3....I think this would be my favorite 992 911.
991.2 GT3....I saw one today, and I still love this thing.
997 GT3 RS 4.0....it's a modern legend.
993 Turbo....one of those Porsches that sucked me in as a wee lad. It has to be in Arena Red. Has to be.
930 Turbo slant nose
959
Carrera GT
918 Spyder
2nd gen Panamera with the Sport Turismo body.

Ferrari
599 GTO... I don't care how many successive generations of the Berlinetta Speciales they come out with, this will likely always be numero uno to me, but....
550 Maranello...in the last few years, I've grown to appreciate it's perfect, elegant proportions.
F40...because legend.
F50...because underappreciated legend with an F1-derived engine.
250 GTO....because I'm classy AF *cue scene of Nic Cage in Gone in Sixty Seconds* ;)
458 Speciale.... last NA V8.
F12 TdF....peak modern Ferrari. Pininfarina-derived design with an interior that's not all capacitive touch switchgear and screens.
12Cilindri Spyder....the name forbodes the last of V12 from Ferrari as we currently know them: no turbos, no electrification. Basically no faff. It looks good, and in Spider guise, doesn't have as much black-panelling in the rear. Having said that, I may be smitten by its new-ness.
F430 Scuderia...just holds a special place in my heart. The 16M may have been the first Ferrari I've ever sat in and I remember how perfect it felt.
LaFerrari....let's just forget the V12 hybrid powertrain with oodles of oomph and trick aero, and let's focus on the design. This modern Ferrari has some of the most interesting design details. I imagine every time you stare at it, you'll discover something new. OK, now add back the V12 and aero back into the equation, and you got something pretty darn special.
288 GTO
Enzo.....everything is great, but their homage to F1 design and the lack of subtlety sometimes ages it badly to my eyes.
Note: I'm sure I am missing something iconic.

Lamborghini
Huracan Perfomante.....Green on gold wheels.
Diablo SV....because NFS III
Countach.....the first supercar as we know it? Probably.

McLaren
720S....I thinks its design is iconic. Tons of quirks.
P1....Brutal. In black, it makes H.R. Geiger proud.

GMA
T.33....Cossie-developed high-revving V12 in an attractive package that Gordon Murray fussed over? Yes, please and make it a Spider!

Aston Martin
Vanquish S Volante....peak A-M, IMO. VH A-M's were a masterclass in GT design.
Vanquish S.... it's so good-looking that, while in Volante form, it'd be delight for 4 out of 5 senses. But to truly appreciate its design, you also need to see how it looks in its coupe form. Honestly, and this maybe an unpopular opinion, but this is one of those rare instances where the Zagato versions were NOT better looking than what it was based on.

Bentley
3rd Gen Conti GTC....one of the best high-end luxury cars made. Melds modern and classical very well. I'll take the V8, please.
Mulsanne
Early 2000's Continental R

Rolls-Royce
Dawn....still want to drive this along the French Rivera
2nd gen Ghost EWB....if I want to be chaufferred but find the Phantom to be a bit "much" ;)


Audi
Ur Quattro....rally icon, and because this is the closest thing to it....
RS3
1st gen R8 V10.....iconic German mid-rear design that's not a Porsche.
1st or 2nd gen S7 or RS7. Best looking 4-door Audi.

Chevrolet
Corvette C8 Z06
Corvette C8 ZR1
C6 Z06
C4 ZR-1
Camaro ZL1

Ford
GT
Mustang Shelby GT350

Dodge
1969 Charger

Pagani
Zonda

Lexus
LFA.....like the 599GTO, I don't foresee my adoration for this car will ever wane.
1st gen SC
LC500....in Nori Green or Copper, probably a convertible to better enjoy the NA V8.
GX550....yes, 4Runner is similar, but they did such a good job.
2nd gen GS....particularly, the GS430 gave the German exec cars a run for their money.
1st gen LS400....shifter of luxury sedan paradigms.
4th gen LS....I think LS460 is a handsome and elegant design.
1st gen IS
IS500...NA V8 in a relatively small car is lovely formula.

Ugh, I am tired...I'll continue later and, yes, I am taking the "ULTIMATE" to the extreme! BMW, M-B, Maser, Alfa, Bugatti, Toyota, Honda, Restomods, and more to come. This list will be so long, it'll make @Merc1 look like he's slacking on the job!
@Sunny is going to have a heart attack.
 
@Sunny is going to have a heart attack.
I'll be honest, starting the list with Porsche and Ferrari was a bad idea because it ended up being more an automaker's greatest hits than an Ultimate Garage where some "critical" thought went into why each choice was made. The real impetus for this post was seeing an E-class specced with the Verde Silver over Brown leather and thinking how good it looked and how fetching it'd look on the All-Terrain.

If I get some time today, I'll continue and finish the list. If not, maybe some time this week.
 
I'll Venn-diagram overlap you on:
Pagani Utopia Roadster
Ferrari 12Cilindri

But the rest of my wishlist looks like this:
Ferrari 296 GTS
Lexus GX550 Overland
BMW M3 Touring (sorry for yoooouuu, USA)
Rolls Royce Ghost II
Porsche 911 S/T
Porsche GT4 RS Weissach (never to be repeated)
 
2001 Audi RS4 B5 / Sportec RS460
2003 Renault Clio V6 Phase 2
2005 Mitsubishi Evolution IX
2005 TVR Sagaris
2006 Porsche 997.1 GT3 RS 3.8
2007 Porsche 997.1 GT2 Clubsport
2008 Bentley Brooklands Coupé
2010 Mercedes SLS AMG
2013 Ferrari 458 Speciale
2013 Wiesmann GT MF4-CS
2017 Ford GT
2018 Mercedes R231 SL65 AMG
2024 Praga Bohema
2024 Ariel Nomad 2
2024 Ford Ranger Raptor
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2006 Maserati MC12 Corsa
2010 BMW Z4 GT3
2024 Ford GT Mk IV
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1934 Tatra 77
1962 Steyr-Puch Haflinger S2
1968 Buick Riviera GS
1976 Alpine A310
1974 Porsche 911 RS 3.0
1977 Maserati Khamsin
1985 Isuzu Piazza (lol)
1993 Bugatti EB110
1994 Dauer 962 LM Sport
1994 BMW E34 M5
1995 Ferrari F355 Challenge
1998 RUF CTR2 Sport
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Porsche 910 replica
Officine Fioravanti Testarossa
Analogue Automotive SuperSport (Elise S1)
Russell Built Fab. Baja 911 (964 C4 Cabrio)
Smit Vehicle Engineering Oletha (Z4 M Coupé)
Grassi Scuderia Milanese 044S (Brera)
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Interesting to see a R231 SL. The market was very unkind to it, but I like it more now that its out of production.

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Interesting to see a R231 SL. The market was very unkind to it, but I like it more now that its out of production.
I think they are a bit anonymous looking compared to the very distinctive R230.
But IMO they have way better interior, and this rear end is just... chef's kiss
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@Revvd Tip-top presentation.

Lol on the Piazza indeed.
Thank you. I thought people would just skip it, if it was text-only. It's a lot of cars to take in.
 
Well, to rekindle this thread, I felt like I needed to provide my two cents on the matter as well.
I don't need a million cars, so let me categorize 10 of my top picks as follows:
  1. NEW CARS
Crown Jewel: Bugatti Tourbillon
Absolutely infatuated w/ this car since its unveiling last summer, and what a car it is as well.
Insane power, insane engineering, super-minute/precise design details, that naturally V16 engine by Cosworth w/ the way it sounds, and of course – an interior that's second to none, sparing no expense to go with it.
Not so much a car, but more a work of art on all accounts

Work of Art #2: Pagani Utopia
Yet another absolute work of art, with a peach of a V12 engine + masterfully crafted interior + a manual transmission

Work of Art #3 (meets racing pedigree): Ferrari SP3 Daytona
Everything the F80 should have been in terms of design, as well as ICE specs, as far as I am concerned.

Mid-engined V12 insanity: Lamborghini Revuelto
Naturally aspirated V12, 1015 HP when coupled w/ the Hybrid drivetrain. Typical insanity, Lambo style
(Not to mention the design has really grown on me)

Mid-engine Ferrari: Ferrari 296 GTB
Well, it is a mid-engined Ferrari (duh!) and one of the prettiest cars on sale today.

Luxury: Rolls-Royce Spectre
Exceeded my expectations in every way (though I didn’t have much, prior to the car’s launch TBH).
I think they’ve done a great job with this car





  1. CLASSICS
Childhood Dream #1: Ferrari F40
Enough said

Childhood Dream #2: BMW 850 Csi
I know it was unloved, therefore didn’t sell well, but grew up adoring its sleek looks & V12 engine

True American Classic: 1949 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible
From the good old times when Caddies were the kings of the hill

  1. DAILY DRIVER
Lexus RZ
Of course, the daily driver needs to keep up with the times (so it gets to be an EV), and a comfortable + reliable one at that
 
Revisiting following about 9 months of not following the thread...

Well...as it's primarily a "German" car forum and due to little from German manufacturers that currently seem to genuinely excite me, I can keep it simple:

Everyday sort of car for all sorts of chores and errands: Porsche Macan-E 4S

"Fun" as well as quite "usable" car: Porsche 992.2 Carrera T coupe

Classic for those nice, sunny and dry weekends: Porsche 356B 2000GS Carrera coupe

"Rudimentary and Rugged Beater": First gen- M-B (or Steyr-Puch) G-Wagon SWB.
 
Well, to rekindle this thread, I felt like I needed to provide my two cents on the matter as well.
I don't need a million cars, so let me categorize 10 of my top picks as follows:
  1. NEW CARS
Crown Jewel: Bugatti Tourbillon
Absolutely infatuated w/ this car since its unveiling last summer, and what a car it is as well.
Insane power, insane engineering, super-minute/precise design details, that naturally V16 engine by Cosworth w/ the way it sounds, and of course – an interior that's second to none, sparing no expense to go with it.
Not so much a car, but more a work of art on all accounts

Work of Art #2: Pagani Utopia
Yet another absolute work of art, with a peach of a V12 engine + masterfully crafted interior + a manual transmission

Work of Art #3 (meets racing pedigree): Ferrari SP3 Daytona
Everything the F80 should have been in terms of design, as well as ICE specs, as far as I am concerned.

Mid-engined V12 insanity: Lamborghini Revuelto
Naturally aspirated V12, 1015 HP when coupled w/ the Hybrid drivetrain. Typical insanity, Lambo style
(Not to mention the design has really grown on me)

Mid-engine Ferrari: Ferrari 296 GTB
Well, it is a mid-engined Ferrari (duh!) and one of the prettiest cars on sale today.

Luxury: Rolls-Royce Spectre
Exceeded my expectations in every way (though I didn’t have much, prior to the car’s launch TBH).
I think they’ve done a great job with this car





  1. CLASSICS
Childhood Dream #1: Ferrari F40
Enough said

Childhood Dream #2: BMW 850 Csi
I know it was unloved, therefore didn’t sell well, but grew up adoring its sleek looks & V12 engine

True American Classic: 1949 Cadillac Series 62 Convertible
From the good old times when Caddies were the kings of the hill

  1. DAILY DRIVER
Lexus RZ
Of course, the daily driver needs to keep up with the times (so it gets to be an EV), and a comfortable + reliable one at that
Yup, shame that whatever I mentioned is either a German classic or just German-owned
 
Revisiting following about 9 months of not following the thread...

Well...as it's primarily a "German" car forum and due to little from German manufacturers that currently seem to genuinely excite me, I can keep it simple:

Everyday sort of car for all sorts of chores and errands: Porsche Macan-E 4S

"Fun" as well as quite "usable" car: Porsche 992.2 Carrera T coupe

Classic for those nice, sunny and dry weekends: Porsche 356B 2000GS Carrera coupe

"Rudimentary and Rugged Beater": First gen- M-B (or Steyr-Puch) G-Wagon SWB.
This sounds good.

I would change the Macan E for a Cayenne GTS ( with a lovely V8).

Instead of the 992.2 Carrera T I would prefer a 992 GT3 touring

As a convertible fan I might add a 993 convertible.

As a classic a 911S with the 2.4L is about right.

As a rugged Car, nothing beats a GRJ 76 with a nice 4L V6 engine.

These cars are also reliable.
 
Somewhere around half dozen, it is not a garage, it becomes a collection. And if you have collected anything, you will know, the thing with collecting is, it becomes more about collection than the thing you are collecting.

So given that, here is my half dozen of 2022+ vehicles -

4RS
911 S/T
GMA T50
Ferrari 812 competizione
M5 CS
Ioniq 5N
 
Not that I'm particularly patriotic, nor fond of British cars, but I could make a case for the following garage...

Nipping to the shops: Mini JCW Electric
Open top backroad blast: Morgan Super Sport
Long distance GT: Aston Martin Vanquish
Family trips: Rolls-Royce Cullinan Bespoke Commission.
Showing off/backing into hedge: Mclaren W1
Track/backing into the gravel trap: Radical RCX
 
I agree the new Morgen Supersport sounds very good, it’s also surprisingly light.
Mini JCW is fine, but I prefer the GP3, thanks to the automatic it’s perfect for traffic.
Which Vanquish? There are a few?

McLaren W1 with Hybrid stuff? I prefer the 750S.
 

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