F1 Traction Control Banned for 2008

[NarutoRamen]

Traction control will no longer be legal in Formula One racing from the start of next season. The change is just one of a number to the 2008 regulations agreed by the teams and FIA at a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council earlier this week.

Article 9.3 of the newly-revised technical regulations states: “No car may be equipped with a system or device which is capable of preventing the driven wheels from spinning under power or of compensating for excessive throttle demand by the driver. Any device or system which notifies the driver of the onset of wheel spin is not permitted.”

Outlawed in the 1990s, traction control was legalized for the 2001 season when it was felt that sophisticated electronics had made policing the ban impractical. From next season, however, standardized ECUs should make enforcement far easier.

Under other changes agreed, the regulations regarding engine homologation will be relaxed slightly, with teams able to make in-season adjustments to a longer list of components, including fuel injection and exhaust systems.

More info on the links below:

Traction Control Axed-Formula1.com
Formula1 bans TC - gpudate.net

What do you guys think?

 

[Centurion]

No traction control = no launch control + sliding = lots more worn out tires.


I say thumb down

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^Apparently the teams liked this idea? May be this will help overtaking because this will cause people to make lots of mistakes. But I also think that this will get quite dangerous because there will probably be more accident.

 

[LaArtist]

i like it.. pure raw driving..this will give us more exciting races

 

[notic]

now we get to see who has the real driving skills

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Well they could have just disabled it.

This is kind of non-sense, F1 is going back instead of forward.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

i like it.. pure raw driving..this will give us more exciting races

Like Imola 1994 ...

 

[Centurion]

I guess you guys are right. The new rule will make F1 much more exciting. The cautious one will be overtaken, the wreckless ones will either win, mess up for themselves or that plus crash into others. This is really going to change F1big time. Like you mentioned it will separate the really good drivers from the wimps.

 

[EnI]

Another stupid move by FIA.

Restriction, restrictions, restrictions ... always new restrictions.

I'm curious how much longer will big car manufacturers (MB, BMW, Honda, Renault, Toyota & Ferrari / Fiat) tolerate such retarded moves.

FIA is banning everything - braking all the needed development.

F1 has always been about hi-tech. Car makers are there to test new solutions, and to implement such solutions in production cars. We got a lot stuff from F1 (turbo engines, active suspension, traction controls, launch controls, sequential gearboxes, better tires, telemetrics etc).

This latest FIA move is just pure stupid!

I just hate Mosley & Ecclestone so much!

If they want real driver contest they should get all drivers identical cars. And that's it. But that's not F1 anymore!

I'm sorry because some small teams are not able to follow the big ones. But that's their own fault - if they are not able to finance all the testing & development they should leave. I'm sure there are other parties (big car makers) interested in F1 participation. It would be nice to see Porsche again in F1, or some VAG brand ala Bentley, Lambo or Audi.

F1 should be a playground of big ones. Fighting as much as possible - for the sake of development. And now stupid FIA is ruining everything.

FIA will sooner or later kill F1 essence.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

Just an example:

The new V8s are:
limited to 19000 RPMs by FIA + NO exotic materials (banned) + NO exotic fuels (banned) + NO variable intake systems (banned) + NO variable exhaust systems (banned) + NO variable valve control systems (banned).


Plus the V8 is for F1 an retarded architecure because of its vibration tolerance limit.

 

[LaArtist]

^in that case F1 to you is a competiton between teams and manufacturers..
much more than between drivers?

im sure if you give the top teams free hands..even you and i could drive those cars in the coming years..with little or NO SKILLS

 

[Imhotep Evil]

^in that case F1 to you is a competiton between teams and manufacturers..
much more than between drivers?

im sure if you give the top teams free hands..even you and i could drive those cars in the coming years..with little or NO SKILLS

Honestly, I'm not for overly intrusive aids, but restrictions and spec-ing is not the true nature, the true soul of F1, of Grand Prix racing.

And no you and I will not be able to drive those things, far from it.

Just picture this, Turkey GP track, Turn 8, 6G 300 Km/h. You and I would be inconscious.

 

[EnI]

^in that case F1 to you is a competiton between teams and manufacturers..
much more than between drivers?

im sure if you give the top teams free hands..even you and i could drive those cars in the coming years..with little or NO SKILLS

F1 has always been a team competition!

Winning a team championship was much more respected than winning a driver championship. Yet lately in the era of superstars Bernie & Max are making money selling names ala Senna, Hakinnen Schumacher, Alonso, etc and transforming F1 to fit superstars.

There has always been driver factor but was not the most important.

In last years F1 is morphing from motorsport to racing competition.

Like I said: if they really want pure driver contest they should run completely standardized car only. All drivers in almost same cars. But then no car maker would participate in such charade.

F1 has been, and should again be team competition. McLaren vs Ferrari vs BMW vs Renault vs Toyota vs Honda etc But today a superstar is more important than a whole team.

Unfortunately these days stupid little people need their own little individualized & personalized gods for praising & worshiping.

 

[Imhotep Evil]

I see it the other way around.

For F1, the WDC was more important than the WCC. The WCC was introduced in 58 vs 50 for the WDC. The first man who considered the WCC more important was Frank Williams.

If we go back to the begings of GP racing than it was manufacturer and car first, driver second.

 

[NarutoRamen]

They keep on saying that they are doing this so the teams with less money can compete.

Well fine, here is a solution. Limit the spending by imposing this. The maximum amount of money ANY team can spend is $100million. After that, no more restrictions. Let the teams do whatever they can with 100mil.

Wouldn't that be better?

 

[Imhotep Evil]

They keep on saying that they are doing this so the teams with less money can compete.

Well fine, here is a solution. Limit the spending by imposing this. The maximum amount of money ANY team can spend is $100million. After that, no more restrictions. Let the teams do whatever they can with 100mil.

Wouldn't that be better?

I had the same idea. Just that 100 million is way too little for F1.

 

[kere]

Was there any info about how FIA is going to make sure that teams don't have any kind of TC? Because wasn't TC allowed because FIA had no way of telling if teams were using it? But anyway I think this is one (and only) of the good decisions lately in F1.

 

[Zonda]

Like Imola 1994 ...

Well, despite that. I think this is a pretty good idea. At least it's worth another try.

 

[bmer]

Are all these still banned?:

Active suspension
ABS-brakes
4-wheel steering (not the same as 4WD/AWD)
Adjusting the car by telemetry (from the pit area)

What about the gearbox? Which one is automatic, upshift or downshift?

 

[NarutoRamen]

^^Bmer...I all those you listed are still banned.

Imhotep...Well if 100mil is too less how about 150mil? I mean that's how much Renault's budget was and they won the last 2 championships.