The End of the Automotive Industry


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Bob Lutz is a former vice chairman and head of product development at General Motors. He also held senior executive positions with Ford, Chrysler, BMW and Opel.
Bob Lutz: Kiss the good times goodbye
'Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap'
Bob Lutz


It saddens me to say it, but we are approaching the end of the automotive era.

The auto industry is on an accelerating change curve. For hundreds of years, the horse was the prime mover of humans and for the past 120 years it has been the automobile.

Now we are approaching the end of the line for the automobile because travel will be in standardized modules.

The end state will be the fully autonomous module with no capability for the driver to exercise command. You will call for it, it will arrive at your location, you'll get in, input your destination and go to the freeway.

On the freeway, it will merge seamlessly into a stream of other modules traveling at 120, 150 mph. The speed doesn't matter. You have a blending of rail-type with individual transportation.
Then, as you approach your exit, your module will enter deceleration lanes, exit and go to your final destination. You will be billed for the transportation. You will enter your credit card number or your thumbprint or whatever it will be then. The module will take off and go to its collection point, ready for the next person to call.

Most of these standardized modules will be purchased and owned by the Ubers and Lyfts and God knows what other companies that will enter the transportation business in the future.

A minority of individuals may elect to have personalized modules sitting at home so they can leave their vacation stuff and the kids' soccer gear in them. They'll still want that convenience.

The vehicles, however, will no longer be driven by humans because in 15 to 20 years — at the latest — human-driven vehicles will be legislated off the highways.

The tipping point will come when 20 to 30 percent of vehicles are fully autonomous. Countries will look at the accident statistics and figure out that human drivers are causing 99.9 percent of the accidents.

Of course, there will be a transition period. Everyone will have five years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap or trade it on a module.

The big fleets
CNBC recently asked me to comment on a study showing that people don't want to buy an autonomous car because they would be scared of it. They don't trust traditional automakers, so the only autonomous car they'd buy would have to come from Apple or Google. Only then would they trust it.

My reply was that we don't need public acceptance of autonomous vehicles at first. All we need is acceptance by the big fleets: Uber, Lyft, FedEx, UPS, the U.S. Postal Service, utility companies, delivery services. Amazon will probably buy a slew of them. These fleet owners will account for several million vehicles a year. Every few months they will order 100,000 low-end modules, 100,000 medium and 100,000 high-end. The low-cost provider that delivers the specification will get the business.

These modules won't be branded Chevrolet, Ford or Toyota. They'll be branded Uber or Lyft or who-ever else is competing in the market.

The manufacturers of the modules will be much like Nokia — basically building handsets. But that's not where the value is going to be in the future. The value is going to be captured by the companies with the fully autonomous fleets.

The end of performance
These transportation companies will be able to order modules of various sizes — short ones, medium ones, long ones, even pickup modules. But the performance will be the same for all because nobody will be passing anybody else on the highway. That is the death knell for companies such as BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Audi. That kind of performance is not going to count anymore.

In each size vehicle, you will be able to order different equipment levels. There will be basic modules, and there will be luxury modules that will have a refrigerator, a TV and computer terminals with full connectivity. There will be no limit to what you can cram into these things because drinking while driving or texting while driving will no longer be an issue.

The importance of styling will be minimized because the modules in the high-speed trains will have to be blunt at both ends. There will be minimum separation in the train. Air resistance will be minimal because the modules will just be inserted into the train and spat out when you get close to your exit.

The future of dealers?
Unfortunately, I think this is the demise of automotive retailing as we know it.

Think about it: A horse dealer had a stable of horses of all ages, and you would come in and get the horse that suited you. You'd trade in your old horse and take your new horse home.

Car dealers will continue to exist as a fringe business for people who want personalized modules or who buy reproduction vintage Ferraris or reproduction Formula 3 cars. Automotive sport — using the cars for fun — will survive, just not on public highways. It will survive in country clubs such as Monticello in New York and Autobahn in Joliet, Ill. It will be the well-to-do, to the amazement of all their friends, who still know how to drive and who will teach their kids how to drive. It is going to be an elitist thing, though there might be public tracks, like public golf courses, where you sign up for a certain car and you go over and have fun for a few hours.

And like racehorse breeders, there will be manufacturers of race cars and sports cars and off-road vehicles. But it will be a cottage industry.

Yes, there will be dealers for this, but they will be few and far between. People will be unable to drive the car to the dealership, so dealers will probably all be on these motorsports and off-road dude ranches. It is there where people will be able to buy the car, drive it, get it serviced and get it repainted. In the early days, those tracks may be relatively numerous, but they will decline over time.

So auto retailing will be OK for the next 10, maybe 15 years as the auto companies make autonomous vehicles that still carry the manufacturer's brand and are still on the highway.

But dealerships are ultimately doomed. And I think Automotive News is doomed. Car and Driver is done; Road & Track is done. They are all facing a finite future. They'll be replaced by a magazine called Battery and Module read by the big fleets.

The era of the human-driven automobile, its repair facilities, its dealerships, the media surrounding it — all will be gone in 20 years.

Today's automakers?
The companies that can move downstream and get into value creation will do OK. But unless they develop superior technical capability, the manufacturers of the modules, the handset providers, if you will, will have their specifications set by the big transportation companies.

The fleets will say, "We want a module of a certain length, a certain weight and a certain range."

They will prescribe the mileage and the acceleration and take bids.

Automakers, if they are smart, may be able to adapt. General Motors sees the handwriting on the wall. It has created Maven and has bought into Cruise Automation and Lyft.

It doesn't want to be the handset provider. It wants to be the company that creates the value and captures the value, and it is making the right moves to be around when the transition occurs.

I think probably everybody sees it coming, but no one wants to talk about it. They know they will be OK for a few years if they keep providing superior technology, superior design and have good software for autonomous driving.

So for a while, the autonomous thing will be captured by the automobile companies. But then it's going to flip, and the value will be captured by the big fleets.

This transition will be largely complete in 20 years.

I won't be around to say, "I told you so," though if I do make it to 105, I could no longer drive anyway because driving will be banned. So my timing once again is impeccable.


Bob Lutz: Kiss the good times goodbye
 
I don't know. Maybe, at some point, new cars will be fitted with a system that (in addition to being driven 'manually') allows them to be controlled by a central computer system, and some parts of the road network (e.g. motorways, central areas of big cities) will be limited to vehicles operating under such control (this could, of course, include those Apploogle UbLyft module thingies as replacement for today's means of public transport, as that's what they'd essetially be), but other than that... After all, having your own car (or horse) is about it being there when you need it, and the (perception of?) freedom that it gives you.
 
The vehicles, however, will no longer be driven by humans because in 15 to 20 years — at the latest — human-driven vehicles will be legislated off the highways.
This is what I see in future as well. That's one of the main reasons, I don't like the current direction of autonomous drive the car industry is going.
 
Bob Lutz has his "following" and he has long attained the status of an industry legend. Respect.

In saying this, I do tend to take his "statements", "predictions", etc. of the last 15 or so years cum kilo salis.
 
Bob Lutz is a former vice chairman and head of product development at General Motors. He also held senior executive positions with Ford, Chrysler, BMW and Opel.
Bob Lutz: Kiss the good times goodbye
'Everyone will have 5 years to get their car off the road or sell it for scrap'
Bob Lutz


It saddens me to say it, but we are approaching the end of the automotive era.

The auto industry is on an accelerating change curve. For hundreds of years, the horse was the prime mover of humans and for the past 120 years it has been the automobile.

Now we are approaching the end of the line for the automobile because travel will be in standardized modules.

The end state will be the fully autonomous module with no capability for the driver to exercise command. You will call for it, it will arrive at your location, you'll get in, input your destination and go to the freeway.

On the freeway, it will merge seamlessly into a stream of other modules traveling at 120, 150 mph. The speed doesn't matter. You have a blending of rail-type with individual transportation.
Then, as you approach your exit, your module will enter deceleration lanes, exit and go to your final destination. You will be billed for the transportation. You will enter...

Thank you for posting this timely and very prescient article. I think Lutz is right, unfortunately. We are indeed going to be the last driving generation. Enjoy your time behind the wheel and try not to take out a seven year hire purchase on your next car.
 
All performance car manufacturers will go the way of the dinosaurs.the
Unfortunately, a big part of what he's saying will happen. I hate more and more autonomous drive and EV.

The really scary thing is that human-driven cars will be banned on most roads in the future. So unless you live in the outback or at least 50km outside of the city CBD, chances are that you will be banned from driving.

Ferrari, and most other performance brands, will become nothing but a brand name and probably worth nothing when the electric automotive age finally comes.

I recently read a news article called "a future without crime" in a Chinese newspaper. It basically said crime would be drastically reduced in the future because most of us will carry no cash, cannot travel without some form of electronic ID, and that A.I. functions in most systems will prevent crime before they happen. I came away with the impression that this "perfect" future is rather scary with Big Brother constantly watching.
 
I think Lutz is sensationalising for attention. IMHO Manually operated driving will not be outlawed within the lifetime of anyone on this forum.
 
I think Lutz is sensationalising for attention. IMHO Manually operated driving will not be outlawed within the lifetime of anyone on this forum.

I think Lutz is right and Moore's law applies to autonomous cars. Also, ICE-powered cars are on their way out in big cities at least. China wants no ICE-powered cars by 2030.

In 7-10 years time, I will not buy a car without full autonomous capabilities.
 
I think Lutz is right and Moore's law applies to autonomous cars. Also, ICE-powered cars are on their way out in big cities at least. China wants no ICE-powered cars by 2030.

In 7-10 years time, I will not buy a car without full autonomous capabilities.

That's fair enough. The next car I'll buy was probably made a decade ago, because that's the cheapest and most personally desirable solution to individual mobility for me.

I have nothing against autonomous cars, or EV's, or car sharing ... but I simply do not believe that all of the many personal, social, economic, financial, physical, geographical and technological obstacles can be overcome that quickly - too many of them are interdependent on other factors, and even at the point they are all overcome - and market acceptance is high enough, the entire fleet of conventional cars on the road still need to be replaced, and that will take time. In simple terms, it has to better the cost and convenience balance people are already used to... and I don't believe that is going to happen within Lutz's 20 years.
 
What will hapeen to all the current car makers if his predictions come true. If AD means the end of individual transportation in favour of a generalized shared transportation, then the market will probably shrink considerably to what ? A quarter of the current one even if we take into consideration the growth of chinese, indian and african markets. No matter how clever current manufacturers are, they are doomed to dissapear, shareholders will take the money and close shops, some will keep some tiny factories to act as the new world artisans but beyond that ? Nothing. I fear that if Lutz's statement that AD is synonymous with the end of individual transportation is true then bye bye cars.
 
Ignoring autonomy - just from a powertrain perspective, by 2021, sales of ICE & hybrid vehicles will fall off a cliff. At least in the developed world, EVs will be so compelling from a tech/price perspective that the majority of consumers will see no rational reason to buy ICE/Hybrids. Carmakers that will have made the investment in EV infrastructure will make the transition and reinvent themselves. The remaining carmakers will render themselves irrelevant.
 
When I saw it was written by Bob Lutz, I immediately thought thought that he wrote this article out of anguish due to another one of his failed automotive ventures. He does make some good points, although none too surprising.

I think he's in his mid-80's now, so it's likely he won't be around for the bleak future he's predicting. Just saying.

Regarding retailers/dealerships; they're cleaning up their acts slowly - more courteous, less predatory behaviors, and less BS overall as the future of traditional phyiscal dealer networks is in doubt.
 
Bob lutz- while your kissing the industry goodbye why don't you come by and kiss my ass aswell?
Haha, yeah, it isn't a positive outlook for car fans is it :)

He seems to think there will still be a small niche industry for recreational supercars that will not be street legal but will be taken to tracks. So basically, driving fast cars will become something for strictly wealthy enthusiasts. Being able to drive will become much rarer.

Sports cars and Luxury cars will no longer really exist as most vehicles will be standardized, autonomous taxis.

He seems to think the industry will become slaves to big fleet buyers (like Amazon and Uber) who will buy tens of thousands of vehicles a month. Cities will likely make it increasingly less viable to own a private vehicle.

His outlook for companies like BMW, Audi, and Mercedes is not positive, they will have to adapt to producing fleets of small standardized vehicles competing directly against Toyota and GM.

One thing is for certain, things are going to change drastically whether we like it or not.


Overall, what he is saying is, due to congestion and environmental concerns, the automobile is no longer serving its primary purpose as well as new technology will. He is predicting a future where transport is going back to its basic function: simply a means of getting from A to B. The culture of the automobile is likely coming to an end.
 
As I said many times: the end of established carmakers will come in the shape of IT companies and Chinese "car" manufacturers (who will be able to produce "mobility units" much cheaper than any other company), not in the shape of overhyped Tesla or any other EV specialist.

At least 50% of cars produced will be sold to fleets - to "mobility providers" , being that Uber, Google, amazon, Apple, any other start-up, a JV company by established carmakers, or ... from some Chinese company.

All the "mobility units" will be EV. The biggest advantage a certain manufacturer will be able to provide will be a) cheap maintenance, b) generous guarantee , c) economy (energy consumption) since fleet customers care for other things than private individual customers.

Also, performance wont be important ... Autonomous Driving won't go beyond speed limits, or perform any other operation (eg. abrupt acceleration) for no reason. Also quick acceleration is not comfortable for passengers in "mobility units" who will eg drink coffee there; apply make up etc etc during the ride.

Also ... max. mileage as such wont be as important since "mobility units" will have to be checked periodically during the day for cleanness etc, and will be charged in the mean time. As said: energy consumption (miles/kWh) will be much more important to fleet customers / "mobility providers" to generate lower costs (and higher profits). Therefore more economical drivetrain & powertrain (better engine, batteries, management software) will be crucial.

Also AD will only be an advantage point in the very beginning. Where certain companies will provide better hardware & better algorithms. But after a few years every remaining "mobility provider" will be able to provide standardized AI-based Autonomous Driving feature. Mind protocols WILL BE standardized in the future. And there will be other supportive Intelligent Traffic solutions (eg. smart traffic signs & lights, smart roads etc etc).

So, what will be the most important thing then?

PERSONAL MOBILITY SERVICES

So, just like your telecommunication / cable provider is offering you several different packages with several different services included the mobility providers will do the same. Offering different packages for different price. Some will include more mileage, more fancy mobility units - with fancier more plush interior, better services included inside the "car" (entertainment, business, news etc). And there will be also tons of additional offers, features, services a customer will be able to buy, offer. So, services will be ranked and so will be the price tags. And therefore there will be different mobility units ... some will be branded. Not necessary by car brands though!!!! There will be different interior designs (by different fashion designers / brands or other brands?) with different level of comfort. The demand will dictate the supply. There will be tons of niches (interior design & service wise) if there will be enough profitable market / demand for them. Interior will become much more important than exterior! And the stuff (hardware & services & features based on that hardware) in the cabin will play the greatest role for the customer / passenger.

Mind the exterior design will be much more unified - since form will even more follow the function. But as said: if there is enough demand, there will also be a supply (of mobility unit's different exterior styles & different brands).

When it comes to carmakers ... The vast majority of them will be reduced to pure no-brand manufacturers (think Foxxcon, Magna etc), or will even die off due to not being able to compete with Chinese manufacturers.

But some very strong automotive brands with strong premium appeal will survive in some form.

Eg. in the future BMW AG perhaps won't be a carmaker anymore. Perhaps they will just be a co-owner of one of the major mobility providers (together with other partners from automotive & IT & other industries). But they will certainly be brand & experience provider: BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce are definitely strong brands with very strong identity and appeal (even outside automotive world) - because they cater to certain lifestyle (and image).

So, some brands will survive, but a majority of them won't. Only strong premium brands have a chance to survive. And only the most nimble companies.
 
I'd say no one wants the car as we know it to die, but everyone wants cheaper transportation. In the end money rules.
 
I doubt very much, transportation will be cheaper in this new world, for our personal/individual mobility needs. I'm sure you and I will be paying not a penny less.
 

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