Movies Star Wars Episodes I-IX general thread

[SCOTT27]

So I watched the Acolyte.

In fairness, I don't think we give the creators nearly enough credit. They successfully managed to make lesbian space witches, non-binary Jedi etc…completely hilarious but uninteresting and unappealing. Vampyros Lesbos This is not.
Even the soundtrack does not hold a candle to Vampyros Lesbos fantastic lounge jazz.

 

[SKY]

So I watched the Acolyte.

In fairness, I don't think we give the creators nearly enough credit. They successfully managed to make lesbian space witches, non-binary Jedi etc…completely hilarious but uninteresting and unappealing. Vampyros Lesbos This is not.
Even the soundtrack does not hold a candle to Vampyros Lesbos fantastic lounge jazz.

Not to mention the protagonist releasing a song calling toxic fans to those who dislike the show.

But hey, let’s see. We have already seen what talented film makers like Favreau or Filoni can do with SW. If Kennedy wants to mix Mandalorian and Ahsoka with woke turds like this one, let them burn money.

Cause let’s be clear here: Kennedy is the problem. The one chosen by Lucas to lead the company, betraying him in the process.

 

[Matski]

So I watched the Acolyte.

I did warn you...

Scott, it's got a black female non-binary lead, and the series creator is a lesbian, of course you're going to hate it.

Cause let’s be clear here: Kennedy is the problem.

On the one hand you have the producer of ET, the Back to the Future franchise, most of the Indiana Jones franchise, most of the Jurassic Park franchise, plenty of great standalone films from comedies like the Money Pit (a personal favourite), to great mainstream films like Innerspace (another personal favourite - Vernon Wells' E24), to interesting stuff like Empire of the Sun and The Sixth Sense, to flat-out difficult to handle stuff like Schindler's List, and all of the other Disney era stuff, including the stuff the white straight guys made... and who was picked specifically by George Lucas to run Lucasfilm...

.. on the other hand there's you. Who doesn't like seeing black people, or LGBT people on screen.

Is Kennedy the problem? Nah, it's the attitudes people like you hold.

 

[SKY]

On the one hand you have the producer of ET, the Back to the Future franchise, most of the Indiana Jones franchise, most of the Jurassic Park franchise, plenty of great standalone films from comedies like the Money Pit (a personal favourite), to great mainstream films like Innerspace (another personal favourite - Vernon Wells' E24), to interesting stuff like Empire of the Sun and The Sixth Sense, to flat-out difficult to handle stuff like Schindler's List, and all of the other Disney era stuff, including the stuff the white straight guys made... and who was picked specifically by George Lucas to run Lucasfilm...

.. on the other hand there's you. Who doesn't like seeing black people, or LGBT people on screen.

Is Kennedy the problem? Nah, it's the attitudes people like you hold.

Standard leftist answer. If someone comes and criticize a woke director inserts their agenda on a film/TV show and you mention you dislike that, leftists will think you are the one with the problem.

Someone more impartial than you might have considered my answer to SCOTT had no mention of politics at all. You could have considered also I might be aware of KK's full credentials as a film producer, which obviously is what earned her the job from Lucas himself in 2012. And you could have thought as well what have been KK's achievements regarding SW in the last 12 years. Let me help you with this one:

• Episode VII: A movie that was initially going to be based on GL's ideas, which were rejected to go instead for a copy of A New Hope story, lacking any kind of innovation in terms of lore, design, world building...
• Episode VIII: The most divisive SW movie to date. A U-turn compared to the previous movie story wise. A turd that only the press seemed to love. A story in which nothing happened. The star ship fights were aborted, lightsaber duels were fake and the most beloved character in the franchise was ruined, among other silly moments courtesy of Benicio del Toro and Laura Dern characters (oh my, they are both white actors!)
• Episode IX: Another U-turn from the previous movie. Somehow the Emperor has returned. Somehow Leia was trained as a Jedi (hint, nothing wrong with that. Not that I hated women being Jedi. It's just something that could have been there since Ep.7). Somehow Rey is the grand daughter of Palpatine and somehow Rey and Kylo had to share a weird kiss at the end
• Other bananas in the way: The last Indy, The Book of Boba Fett (they are probably still trying to figure out what the story was about), Kenobi (for a SW TV show to look good you probably need to spend money on it) and this Acolyte show for the time being

Maybe you want to consider all this before openly stating attitutes like mine are a problem. Cause in my book it's the prejuices of people like you that are the problem. The difference is I have the good manners of not stating that on an internet forum without actually knowing what you think.

Not not mention, mods around here tend to have better taste and not being too evident when stating their opinions. You might want to consider that when adressing people you clearly disagree with.

Cheers.

 

[Matski]

Maybe you want to consider all this before openly stating attitutes like mine are a problem

Trite criticism of the sequel trilogy (some of which is deserved, in fairness, as with the OT and PT), and a standpoint that occasionally representing diversity is inherently bad does nothing to dissuade me that attitudes like yours aren't a problem. You don't (appear to) have a problem with Lucas inserting his agenda regarding the Vietnam war into the OT, nor his issue with right wind corporate America into the PT... so it just appears to be the pro-equality aspect you've a problem with, and if that's the case - I cannot possibly take your attempt at appearing impartial seriously.

Not not mention, mods around here tend to have better taste and not being too evident when stating their opinions. You might want to consider that when adressing people you clearly disagree with.

I'm disappointed that you think I'm doing anything other than choosing my words very carefully, because me doing so is me showing you - someone I disagree with - respect. I'm not going to show your opinions any unearned respect however, and I don't care if you have a problem with that. Me being a mod is entirely irrelevant until moderation action is implied, threatened or taken, which it hasn't been - and you're only bringing it up in an attempt to shut me up, which is weak. If it's any help, you can call me a lefty all day long, I don't have a problem with it.

 

[SKY]

Trite criticism of the sequel trilogy (some of which is deserved, in fairness, as with the OT and PT), and a standpoint that occasionally representing diversity is inherently bad does nothing to dissuade me that attitudes like yours aren't a problem. You don't (appear to) have a problem with Lucas inserting his agenda regarding the Vietnam war into the OT, nor his issue with right wind corporate America into the PT... so it just appears to be the pro-equality aspect you've a problem with, and if that's the case - I cannot possibly take your attempt at appearing impartial seriously.

I'm disappointed that you think I'm doing anything other than choosing my words very carefully, because me doing so is me showing you - someone I disagree with - respect. I'm not going to show your opinions any unearned respect however, and I don't care if you have a problem with that. Me being a mod is entirely irrelevant until moderation action is implied, threatened or taken, which it hasn't been - and you're only bringing it up in an attempt to shut me up, which is weak. If it's any help, you can call me a lefty all day long, I don't have a problem with it.

Yes. And Lucas also used the Roman Empire as an analogy of how politics are always willing to corrupt democracy and transform it into a totalitarian regime. He spent years researching and studying stuff like history, sociology and anthropology. You know why he did that? Cause he wanted to create a mythology that covered UNIVERSAL themes.

And I'm not impartial. I just state my opinion. Which is that I find it silly that because you are gay and left minded, you have to make that evident across the show. And I would find it equally stupid if the director was French and because of that most of the show's cast was French too. A differentiating factor between non-left people and the left in general: We don't pretend our political ideas to be reflected in the entertainment we consume.

I prefer you and me to be able to like the same SW content. You seem to prefer your agenda to be part of the content and, when others don't like it, state that they have a a problem while you certainly don't.

 

[Matski]

I prefer you and me to be able to like the same SW content. You seem to prefer your agenda to be part of the content and, when others don't like it, state that they have a a problem while you certainly don't.

You openly state your problem with blacks and gays. I've no problem with us not liking Star Wars for the same reasons, you do you, I'll do me.

 

[SKY]

You openly state your problem with blacks and gays. I've no problem with us not liking Star Wars for the same reasons, you do you, I'll do me.

Again, that’s your offensive interpretartion based on your prejuices. My problem is with left wing creators and their propaganda. So please, next time you are going to openly state opinions like mine are a problem, at least stick to what I actually say.

 

[KiwiRob]

.. on the other hand there's you. Who doesn't like seeing black people, or LGBT people on screen.

Is Kennedy the problem? Nah, it's the attitudes people like you hold.

That's bs and you know it, this series is trash, it's more garbage from Disney, who are doing a great job alienating there fan base, a fan base who are easily defined, hint its not the people she's making these shows for, those people are a tiny minority. To me it wouldn't matter if the lead was a Hemsworth, it would still be a shitty show.

The last decent additions to the Star wars Saga were Andor, Rogue One, the first two seasons of Mando and Bad Batch.

 

[KiwiRob]

Trite criticism of the sequel trilogy (some of which is deserved, in fairness, as with the OT and PT), and a standpoint that occasionally representing diversity is inherently bad does nothing to dissuade me that attitudes like yours aren't a problem.

This is where I take issue, we have gone well beyond representing diversity, Disney and other content creators are forcing diversity into everything. A good example of this is making Frenchie gay in The Boys, wtf, this is a show which is full of everything so why this, what was the purpose, it doesn't fit, it's like the writer had a brain fart........

 

[SCOTT27]

RIP Lord Vader.

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