3 Series (G50) [Spy shots] 2027 BMW 3 Series (G50)

[SCOTT27]

BMW has gone all JaGuar, therefore sad times lay ahead of us.

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[J.E]

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BMW has gone completely f#cking insane just like JaGuar.

 

[SCOTT27]

BMW has gone completely f#cking insane just like JaGuar.

No they haven’t. Jaguar is a marketing issue. The Type 00 cars are a casualty of their marketing decisions being heavily influenced by identity politics.
BMW have not culled their portfolio to rebrand leaving showrooms to fumble in the dark for the next couple of years.

 

[SaltkjelenBMW]

Jaguar may have a marketing issue, but BMW has a identity issue.

From being the one who sets the trends and has a visible brand identity, to becoming one of "everyone else". From having high quality materials in the interiors to have hard shiny plastics. From having luxury options like rear seat entertainment, soft close doors, night vision etc. to not offering this anymore. The "premium" BMW suffers from cost cuttings from year to year. It's a sad time to be a BMW enthusiast.

 

[Centurion]

Jaguar may have a marketing issue, but BMW has a identity issue.

From being the one who sets the trends and has a visible brand identity, to becoming one of "everyone else". From having high quality materials in the interiors to have hard shiny plastics. From having luxury options like rear seat entertainment, soft close doors, night vision etc. to not offering this anymore. The "premium" BMW suffers from cost cuttings from year to year. It's a sad time to be a BMW enthusiast.

BMW are fine. As long as they keep making SUVs, puts fancy ambient lighting around the cabin and make M sport kits default, customers will be happy.

 

[MrRapp]

He has a point: visible cost cutting is reaching a point where it’s just no acceptable anymore. Spent a bit of time comparing the G45 X3 and Audi Q6 E-tron on the inside and where BMW was ahead in interior quality previously, it’s the other way around nowadays: especially the door panels on the Q6 feel much more upmarket than X3. Why BMW has chosen not to offer a panoramic roof that can actually be opened is beyond me: it’s something that I’ve chosen with every BMW that I ordered and something that I really want. You guessed it: sliding roof is available on Q6 (and its’ Macan sibling) so BMW is really at risk of losing customers this way if you ask me. If people are willing to spend extra money to buy a premium brand, it really should show.

 

[klier]

Jaguar may have a marketing issue, but BMW has a identity issue.

Don't make it personal. BMW has ZERO issues compared to Jag.
Just comparing them is silly.

It's a sad time to be a BMW enthusiast.

Amen.

 

[martinbo]

It's a sad time to be a BMW enthusiast.

It’s a sad time to be a German car enthusiast, period. BMW may have some issues around cost cutting leading to lower quality interiors but that’s about it. Porsche’s 992 has the cheapest made interior since 996 and Mercedes Benz have their own cost reductions.

Mechanically speaking, the German marques remain far ahead of their competitors in ICE-powered technology.

 

[Rolf]

The new Audi A6 EV has also some cost cutting with hard plastic door bins, which one tester was saying are as scratchy and hard as those in a VW Polo. German cars are losing their edge in material quality compared to other less premium brands. The Chinese cars are catching up very fast in the interior build and material quality nowadays.

This video is popcorn viewing. This guy has taken a new Zeekr 001 and compared it to the BMW i5, it makes a person think and feel highly disappointed that our beloved German brands are falling behind the times quite alot.

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[Gor134]

He has a point: visible cost cutting is reaching a point where it’s just no acceptable anymore. Spent a bit of time comparing the G45 X3 and Audi Q6 E-tron on the inside and where BMW was ahead in interior quality previously, it’s the other way around nowadays: especially the door panels on the Q6 feel much more upmarket than X3. Why BMW has chosen not to offer a panoramic roof that can actually be opened is beyond me: it’s something that I’ve chosen with every BMW that I ordered and something that I really want. You guessed it: sliding roof is available on Q6 (and its’ Macan sibling) so BMW is really at risk of losing customers this way if you ask me. If people are willing to spend extra money to buy a premium brand, it really should show.

While the new Q5 and Q6 have the sliding/opening pano roof.. Audi is also making the stupid decision of giving the A5 a fixed roof. I don't understand this trend... fixed roofs suck. None of the benefits of an opening roof, nor the benefits of a slicktop.

 

[Gor134]

It’s a sad time to be a German car enthusiast, period. BMW may have some issues around cost cutting leading to lower quality interiors but that’s about it. Porsche’s 992 has the cheapest made interior since 996 and Mercedes Benz have their own cost reductions.

Unironically... the new Nissan Murano interior impressed me A LOT at the LA Auto Show.

It looked very tasteful and the materials were mostly good... I found myself thinking why the German 4 can't be doing this either right now.

OBV most of the R&D money on German cars goes to the driving experience which no Nissan will ever match, but the interior of it wowed me for sure.

 

[SaltkjelenBMW]

BMW are fine. As long as they keep making SUVs, puts fancy ambient lighting around the cabin and make M sport kits default, customers will be happy.

The cost cuttings has even reached the ambient lighting in most of the new BMWs.

G6x 5er: No ambient light strip in the rear doors, ambient lights in the rear door speakers if you have "Bowers & Wilkins" (try compare this to the B&W in G30.. ) but no ambient lights in the front door speakers
G2x 3er/4er: "full ambient lights until 07/2022", less ambient lights from 07/2022-07/2024, even lesser ambient lights from 07/2024
G45 X3: No ambient light strip at the rear doors, BUT the China LWB version does have it

Don't make it personal. BMW has ZERO issues compared to Jag.
Just comparing them is silly.

Jaguar has bigger issues than BMW, but honestly - I think BMW have some seriously issues too.


@MrRapp Funny about the fixed sunroof. The roof centre function of the new BMWs with fixed sunroof, has "tilt button with tilt symbol" without a function. BMW was so lazy with the details and focused on cost cutting as they kept it as a f#cking dummy button. It's so tragic that it becomes funny.

 

[MrRapp]

I'm pretty sure that the Chinese are still not able to match in driving dynamics but how much would it cost extra to put in some better materials inside? Perhaps only a few hundred quid per car, if not less. I'd gladly put down the extra money for a better interior feel. Same goes for the sunroof. I'd never buy a Chinese car but some of them are just better in the interior department nowadays.

 

[Centurion]

G6x 5er: No ambient light strip in the rear doors, ambient lights in the rear door speakers if you have "Bowers & Wilkins" (try compare this to the B&W in G30.. ) but no ambient lights in the front door speakers
G2x 3er/4er: "full ambient lights until 07/2022", less ambient lights from 07/2022-07/2024, even lesser ambient lights from 07/2024
G45 X3: No ambient light strip at the rear doors, BUT the China LWB version does have it

I had no idea. Thanks!

 

[J.E]

 

[Rolf]

Those renders look quite good and this Neu Klasse styling will suit the 3 series body.

 

[klier]

These renders are horrible. Particularly the rear. Holy crap.

And not to mention all these shut lines in the front. FUGLY!!! The concept has none.

 

[Mickaels]

These renders are horrible. Particularly the rear. Holy crap.

And not to mention all these shut lines in the front. FUGLY!!! The concept has none.

but the production car has them. so they will be there.

the major issue this render and avarvarii's render has is that that both are based on 5 series cars. The new 5 has the wrong proportions to mimic the new 3. I'd wait for a render from larson.

 

[klier]

but the production car has them. so they will be there.

I understand that and I feel really bad about it. Hopefully it won't be this......crude

 

[Titot]

Comparisons between the shapes and silhouettes of the M350 G50 (M3 G84) and M3 ZA0 (i3 NA0).