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It is funny you feel compelled to throw in these juvenile barbs but don't seem to have the balls to make a full sentence out it. And now it looks like you are just stating something about your self, haha.
Vs RS3 vs 1M Coupe (likes and dislikes)
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It is funny you feel compelled to throw in these juvenile barbs but don't seem to have the balls to make a full sentence out it. And now it looks like you are just stating something about your self, haha.
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You seem to feel a need to answer every post I make and yet ignore most others that disagree with you, clear your problem is with me alone, maybe you should put me on the ignore list and forget I'm here.
I'm done trying to have a civil or otherwise discussion with you.
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JavierNuvolari (RS6.com member) said:
This is most unexpected, I never would have though that the RS3 would get that close to the TT-RS never mind equal it's time. Again this might be a statement similar to that of the 8:12 for the 1M in that it's a guesstimate or something the manufacturer has done. I don't even know if this is just Forum 'One-upmanship' or not as I haven't got this information to confirm or deny it, but if true then this might put the cat among the pigeons.
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OK, 'cat among the pigeons' might have been a bit strong but many perceive the RS3 as quick in a straight line but no way possible to be quicker than the 1M.
In a word I agree with that opinion, though it may well be close I would have always expected the 1M to be the quicker, like Just_me said it, the 1M to sit between the TT-RS and RS3 in term of track ability.
The RS6 member's claim would suggest that the RS3 might be the best of the bunch, incredible if true.
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That TT-RS time is achieved by Sportauto. Others are factory times. Not comparable.
I repeat myself RS3 or 1M wont be as quick as TT-RS, not in the hands of Sportauto. And the time everybody mention, BMw never said the laptime is 8.12 min, they just said 1M is 10 seconds quicker than M3 E46. Time 8.22 min is done in the hands of Sportauto, not BMW. BMW testdrivers are usually quicker than Sportauto.
Until we seen official Sportauto laptimes, RS3 and 1M , those times are just speculations and certainly not valid. I dont believe in hearsay. Footie, you get excited too easily. Dont make the same mistake twice
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You made a boob there Klier, you actually said what you had always thought.
Now say what you usually do.
On a more serious note, is that all you have to say on the prospect that the RS3 might actually be quicker than the 1M.
P.S.
On something that Martinbo mentioned else where, he felt that BMW have two M cars, an M major and an M minor, stating that the SUVs and the 1er Coupe are M minors. Funny thing is that these three M cars don't carry the normal letter first, number second badging, the M is last probably for a reason. I doubt this will be true for the next M3, M5 or M6.
That was why I reckoned it might just be Forum 'one-upmanship' games being played by the manufacturers. Without inpedendent confirmation of their times they are speculation at best.
But at least it keeps the interest up which is all that any manufacturer wants until the release.
Mr Robert
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I'm away for a couple of days and people are still arguing over the 8:12? 
I don't know what BMW claimed for the E46 M3 and it seems no one else does either.
Without context, that time means NOTHING. First of all, it is not measured. Second, well... there really is no need for second, is there. Until furhter information, the 8:12 is useless.
So, could we get on with the RS3 and 1M compraison, based on what we do know?
I don't know what BMW claimed for the E46 M3 and it seems no one else does either. Without context, that time means NOTHING. First of all, it is not measured. Second, well... there really is no need for second, is there. Until furhter information, the 8:12 is useless.
So, could we get on with the RS3 and 1M compraison, based on what we do know?
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Idling on the I5 does give a slightly rough almost diesel character, probably the fact it's an uneven cylinder count, firing pattern or something, but in acceleration and based on the spy videos during testing the RS3 has a very throaty, bassy and impressive engine note similar to that of the TT-RS. In contrast the 1M is rather lean note with little depth that leads to a metallic-ness at the top end.
On purely engine/exhaust note under acceleration it's 1 - 0 to Audi.
Mr Robert
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That is what makes it so impressive! I'm not a fan of the whole "look at me, I've got a to big exhaust"-sound. The CSL's "chainsaw in a tin can" note is one of the best non-Ferrari sounds ever.
1-0 BMW.
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You have described the one element of the E46M3 and CSL that never appealed to me.
Different folk like different stuff.
What is obvious is that each car is appealling to their target audience, in that the RS3 engine note will appeal the Audi enthusiasts and the 1M engine note will appeal to BMW enthusiasts.
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Well what if I'm just a plain old car enthusiast? Which engine will appeal more? Both, actually. The new 2.5 5pot turbo is just an exceptional piece of work and the 3.0 litre straight six is a masterpiece steeped in heritage. Anyone with a lack of appreciation for either is obviously blind to the finer points of each one.
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My Goodness...the battle of Audi and BMW is starting to look like the old Benz vs BMW wars.
Either way not really a fan of either car, but for the sake of conversation I would have to go with the RS3.
Either way not really a fan of either car, but for the sake of conversation I would have to go with the RS3.
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I thought you were excited about the new 1M???
I'm and I want one but the car isn't perfect.
HighestOfHigh
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Man...you all and this idea of perfection!
What is the problem now? Not enough HP? Weighs too much? Doesn't look elegant? Transmission not what you need? Engine doesn't sound right? 0-60 times aren't as good as a Bugatti?
My goodness! Just be happy for what BMW gives you. They are a business, not Santa.
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If Just_Me isn't entirely happy with the 1M then it's understandable, no car no matter how good will get everything right for everybody in just the same way as the RS3 doesn't. The very fact that both don't offer both transmissions will displease many.
The downer for me with the RS3 is it's looks and probably the exhaust setup if I'm honest. Everything else is spot on in my opinion, it's got the right engine with the right transmission and drivetrain and one of the best interior designs, it's a hatch so it's functional and it's got 5 doors so it's practical too.
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