Phantom Rolls-Royce unveils new Phantom Coupé


Rolls-Royce has used the Phantom name on full-sized luxury cars and limousines since 1925, making it the longest used car model nameplate in automotive history. In the 20th century, the Rolls-Royce Phantom was a very low volume, hand-built limousine, which in its first four generations was custom coachbuilt to the customer's requests, and sometimes extravagant desires. Whilst automobile manufacturing over time became more mechanised and prolific, and vehicles from other manufacturers could be built in greater numbers and at lower prices, the Phantoms remained hand-built, and production of individual cars only began once the order was placed. The use of the name "Phantom" is a long tradition of naming Rolls-Royce models after ghosts or spirits.
I've already done that ... in the other thread. :t-cheers:

I just find it funny while my points are considered "doublespeak" by Marcus, while your points seem all valid to him.

:usa7uh:

Because you're trying to excuse and ugly car with some BMW corporate nonsense while trying to imply anyone that likes the Bentley is somehow out of touch with the times and doesn't have any taste.

Instead of just giving us your own personal opinion on the cars and how they look to you, you try to act like design is so hard for everyone to understand or that it is over most peoples heads. Its ridiculous. Its specious.

Bentley has no image and they're matterless. Yet just like you love to point to sales when it comes to BMW's success, Bentley is on fire. Then you went silent.


M
 
Hmmm ......a great deal of rubbish has been said in this thread ....which is why I don't visit here much anymore ....I would just argue all day.

I think this is a great looking car .......it has lots of typical Rolls traits.

Essentially, Both Rolls and Bentley draw upon the same styling traditions (particularly the vehicles designed by the main Rolls-Royce/Bentley coachbuilders Park Ward and Mulliner) obviously because they were built side-by-side since 1931. It is interesting to see (now that they are conceived by completely separate design teams) how these classic styling themes are being reinterpreted by both manufacturers ....with the intention of making their respective products unique and distinctive.

I think the Phantom Coupé looks terrific -- the roof is perfect -- I absolutely cannot understand what some of you (the usual suspects I note ;)) are on about. It is more formal-looking than the roof of the Bentley and that is entirely appropriate for a Rolls-Royce.

Exhibit A (Bentley S1 Park Ward Coupé) The Phantom's roof is very similar to this historic design from the Park Ward archives.


Exhibit B The Bentley Brooklands reminds me a little of the classic Bentley S1 Continental Mulliner Fastback -- it has quite an elongated appearance -- very elegant.


Overall, I love both cars -- I like the "faux drophead" look of the Phantom's roof -- and I believe this is intentional (and not unprecedented for a Rolls either).

My only gripe about the Rolls is the interior space. As pointed out by several people already, the Rolls- is essentially a convertible with a hardtop welded on to it. But, whereas the Bentley makes the most of the extra space permitted by the absence of a stowage area required for a folded roof and roll-bar, Rolls-Royce did not make any such change to the interior dimensions -- and so the rear seat of the Bentley is far more accommodating.





Also, it must be said that the Bentley does have a much more "hand crafted" feel about it -- it does seem more familiar to a traditional Rolls or Bentley owner. The Phantom does have many virtues of a traditional Rolls-Royce ...but it still just feels slightly different from the old products from Crewe -- certainly not in a bad way, but different nonetheless. The Bentley does seem just slightly more special to me, despite costing considerably less, but I still think both cars look great.

ultimately I think the authenticity of the Phantom extends as far as its style, size, and presence, but beyond that -- I don't know, there is something about it that feels less authentic. The Bentley, on the other hand, is 100% authentic -- it is unquestionably a real Bentley -- I wish I could say the same for the Continental series.
 
I see your point, Rob, and I perfectly know Rolls ususally has this kind of roof on its Coupe. But in the actual one, I think it does not flow with the car.

You can't say "this is Rolls' historical roof" and just paste it to the car, it has to flow. And here, to my eyes, it is not really part of the car, it looks like an add-on, it is not really in harmony with the rest of the car. Feeling that, surprisingly, I don't have with the DHC. It makes the car heavy, and is not really good-looking on this car.

The Mulliner Coupe in your pic does not look heavy at all, the roof is just here like if it always was here, like if it couldn't be different. You have nothing to add, it looks beautiful.

With the Phantom Coupe, the roof is here but it is disturbing me. It is out of place, it does not flow with the lines of the car for me, and turns the whole car it into something heavy and not very elegant.

But that is just my feeling about it. I just found interesting to try to see why I like the DHC and not the Coupe, despite both having a very similar design.

:t-cheers:
 
The new coupe would be perfect as a folding hardtop!

M
 
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Strangely enough I think this looks better than 99 percent of the press shots.

M
 
Press Release

ROLLS-ROYCE MOTOR CARS PRESS CONFERENCE
GENEVA MOTOR SHOW 2008

IAN ROBERTSON
CHAIRMAN AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE

4 MARCH 2008


The spoken word is applicable.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us this afternoon.

It is always a pleasure to be in Geneva and particularly when, as you can see, we have something new to unveil. You may remember it was exactly two years ago that we showed the experimental 101EX Coupé right here and so I am particularly pleased to be able to show you the production model, closely based on this car – but we will come to that in a few minutes.

Rolls-Royce Motor Cars had an exceptional year in 2007. We celebrated our fifth anniversary of production at the top of the super-luxury sedan segment, with a record sales result and a promise of major developments over the next two years.

Sales were up by 25 per cent compared to 2006, with retails of over 1000 cars – 1010 to be exact - and our fourth successive sales increase since the company was launched.

North America once again remained our strongest market overall, accounting for around 40 per cent of Phantom sales with Europe second accounting for almost a quarter of our business. Within Europe, the UK was the clear leader with Russia in a solid second place and growing strongly. Further from home we saw exceptional performances in the United Arab Emirates and in Asia Pacific too, particularly China, and in emerging markets like India.

There was strong demand for all Phantom models in 2007, with an outstanding reaction to the Phantom Drophead Coupé, launched in July. The first car was sold for $2 million at a charity auction in the US and by the end of 2007 over 250 cars had been delivered to customers worldwide, far above expectations. Our order book is currently full through this year and well into 2009, with no signs of demand slowing and increasing requests for Bespoke features.

Our new model series, named RR4, is due for launch in 2010. The engineering development is now well under way and you will perhaps have seen spy shots of the engineering test cars that have been published in the past few weeks

We have recently announced that we are developing a brand new engine for this model. Phantom is already the most efficient car in the super luxury segment and the new engine will be a further substantial advance.

Building work at our manufacturing plant at Goodwood is now underway, expanding operations in readiness for our new model series, all within the footprint of the existing buildings. We are building a second assembly line and introducing new working patterns, with up to three shifts in some production areas. All departments will be expanded, including dramatic expansion of the paintshop, a new leathershop across two floors, new wood working facilities and an updated logistics operation.

A major recruitment campaign starts later this month and will continue through this year and next. We will have increased the current 700 strong workforce by several hundred by the end of next year

So in the medium term we have a vital new addition to the product line-up, but we have a more immediate one too – called the Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupé.

We had a fantastic reaction to its experimental predecessor,101EX, as it toured the world following its unveiling at this show two years ago and so we decided to take it to production readiness. And since we announced last year that we would build a production version, customer deposits have been flooding in and are already well into three figures. What is particularly satisfying is that two thirds of these orders have come from people who have never owned a Rolls-Royce before and so, just as Drophead expanded the appeal of our range, so too has Coupé.

The engineering of this car is based on both the Drophead and the Phantom, but this is a car with quite a different character. It has been created as a real transcontinental tourer and is the most driver orientated car we have produced to date.

We have made a number of subtle engineering changes, which, when added all together give the car quite a different feel. But this is still first and foremost a Rolls-Royce with the emphasis on silent running, seemless ride and effortless power. It is certainly not a sports car in any sense, but does feel more dynamic than our other models.

Starting with the chassis, it is incredibly stiff – in fact the stiffest Rolls-Royce chassis ever built – and that’s a great starting point. Springs and damper are slightly firmer, there are thicker anti-roll bars and steering assistance is reduced to increase feel. The brakes have been programmed to give a little more initial bite while a sport button on the steering wheel reprogrammes the gearbox with a more aggressive shift pattern.

By changing the rear structure of the car we have been able to increase both fuel and luggage capacity by 25 per cent, compared to the Drophead. This means a range of well over 600 km and the ability to carry four sets of golf clubs, if you share my passion for the game.

Chief Designer Ian Cameron and his team have done a magnificent job with this car once again. The exterior will speak for itself in a few moments, but there are some lovely details inside the car. The use of wood is exquisite and different to all our other models – and I am delighted to say that the starlight headliner from the experimental car has made it onto the production version as on option.

But I think I have said enough and its time for you to make up your own minds. Ladies and gentleman allow me to present to you the Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupé.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080305.006/rolls-royce-phantom-coupe-geneva-unveiling-video
 
Looks very expensive inside, but the exterior is still a let down. It has all the elegance of a truck and the way those doors open don't work for the Coupe. Huge and ungainly looking when opened.

M
 
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2009 Phantom Coupe sold out, two-thirds are first time Royce owners

The new Phantom Coupe is giving Rolls-Royce a broader appeal. The car has already booked over 200 orders and most of them are first time Rolls-Royce owners. Yes, that means the Phantom Coupe has already been sold out for this year.

“Two-thirds in our early order bank are from non Rolls-Royce owners,” said CEO Ian Robertson as he took the wraps off the new addition to the brand’s lineup. “It means we’re beginning to appeal to a broader audience.”

The Coupe is a sportier Rolls-Royce, said Robertson. “But it is still very clearly not a sports car.”

Design wise the Phantom Coupe stays close to the sleek 101EX Concept that Rolls-Royce unveiled in autumn of 2007. Power comes from a 6.75 liter V12 engine that produces 453 horsepower and 531 lb-ft of torque. The 0-60 sprint comes up in 5.6 seconds while top speed is limited to 155 mph.

Robertson said that the Drophead Coupe sold “far in excess of our original estimates,” and is sold out until summer 2009.



2009 Phantom Coupe sold out, two-thirds are first time Royce owners


Damn that was fast! Poor Maybach, having to watch Bentley and Rolls soar away.


M
 
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Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited is a British luxury automobile maker and a wholly-owned subsidiary of BMW AG since 2003 - as the exclusive manufacturer of Rolls-Royce-branded motor cars. The company is headquartered in Goodwood, West Sussex, England, United Kingdom. BMW AG has no direct relationship with Rolls-Royce-branded vehicles produced before 2003, other than having briefly supplied components and engines. From 1906 to 2003, cars were manufactured and marketed under the Rolls-Royce brand by Rolls-Royce Motors. The Bentley Motors Limited subsidiary of Volkswagen AG is its direct successor.
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