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Depending on the investment opportunities you have available, leasing can be wiser than buying outright.
I think sako is saying that RR buyers used to be wealthy enough not to care about spending the money purchasing it out right.
 
I think sako is saying that RR buyers used to be wealthy enough not to care about spending the money purchasing it out right.

Those customers do exist. Floyd Mayweather certainly enjoys bragging about not leasing his cars.

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Rolls-Royce are seriously considering to introduce an opposite pole to the Black Badge models: the White Badge models.

White Badge models will focus exclusively on superb comfort & pure luxury. With special chassis, drivetrain & powertrain settings to enhance comfort. Introducing special colors (eg. Ivory White) / color combinations, trims, materials, and special features to emphasize luxury, elegance and beauty.
 
Rolls-Royce are seriously considering to introduce an opposite pole to the Black Badge models: the White Badge models.

White Badge models will focus exclusively on superb comfort & pure luxury. With special chassis, drivetrain & powertrain settings to enhance comfort. Introducing special colors (eg. Ivory White) / color combinations, trims, materials, and special features to emphasize luxury, elegance and beauty.

Stupid. What is a normal RR supposed to be then?
A normal RR is not good enough anymore, you are going to need some special line?

A Black Badge sporty RR I can sort of understand, but a regular Rolls already is a White Badge.
 
My take on possible RR White Badge is that it's going to be some sort of RR's serial "Luxury / Comfort line" - so, a "mass volume" "pimped up" edition. With some special options as standard. Contrary to special editions which are limited in very volume. Or contrary to customized or even coachbuilt one-offs.

Why not. It sure is a marketing trick ... Black & White. He & she. Yin & Yang. Sport & Comfort. ;)

Btw, "standard" RR is NEVER enough. Therefore a majority of vehicles sold is heavily customized, and that's why there are many (although limited) special editions. So, having Black & White Badge editions seems a bit tacky but IMHO it could work. I can even see collectors buying them.
 
Btw, "standard" RR is NEVER enough. Therefore a majority of vehicles sold is heavily customized, and that's why there are many (although limited) special editions. So, having Black & White Badge editions seems a bit tacky but IMHO it could work. I can even see collectors buying them.

In short, a White Badge already exists.....because that would be a 'normal' RR.
But whatever, I'm sure the marketing guys want to introduce something new. We don't want them jobless (actually we do).
 
Kinda puts me in mind of the Bentley Red Label / Green Label debacle... different scenario clearly, but still seems a bit like trying to put a name on something that doesn't need a name...

Personally, I think Rolls-Royce should put out a model that's over a €1,000,000 in "standard" spec.
 
Kinda puts me in mind of the Bentley Red Label / Green Label debacle... different scenario clearly, but still seems a bit like trying to put a name on something that doesn't need a name...

Personally, I think Rolls-Royce should put out a model that's over a €1,000,000 in "standard" spec.

Bentleys Johnny Walker solution with the Arnage.
 
After 2 more years,The Phantom DHC PININFARINA is still on he dealer's floor.
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More like 8 years. Alain Class still hasn't been able to find a buyer.

It looked horrible in person when I saw it at it's debut at Pebble Beach years ago. Retro-modern gone wrong.

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So 12 million for a re-bodied pre-facelift Phantom Coupé he owned for years prior to the coachwork?... I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell to this "mwvmnw" fellow :D
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His F12 TRS' and hypercar collection are epic I must say.
 
Rolls-Royce Design Boss Giles Taylor Exits Abruptly

Giles Taylor has run the design department at Rolls-Royce for nearly six years now. Before that, he was its head of exterior design. But now the British luxury automaker is going to need to find a new design director.

The company announced today that Taylor is leaving Rolls-Royce with immediate effect. And he’s not moving elsewhere in the BMW Group, either. All it said was that he’s leaving “to pursue alternative business interests,” so we won’t be surprised to see him named to a similar position at another automaker.

In the meantime, Rolls-Royce says it will announce his successor “in due course,” by which we take it that it doesn’t have a replacement in line yet. But it will likely promote from within the company or the group of which it’s part.

Taylor started his career with five years at the PSA Group before signing as chief designer at Jaguar, where he remained for 14 years. He moved to Rolls-Royce as head of exterior design in 2011, and was made head of overall design in 2012. In the time since, Rolls-Royce has launched the Wraith, the Dawn, the new Phantom, and the Cullinan – all of which have ostensibly been designed (or at least overseen) by Taylor.

He also designed the 103EX concept – also known as the Vision 100, which previewed the future direction in which Rolls-Royce intends to glide serenely. Whoever will take charge in his absence will be charged with designing the next generation of vehicles. That will likely begin with the next-generation Ghost, which is now eight years old.
 
Not surprising after than ugly crap of an SUV he oversaw.

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Having seen Cullinan in the flesh now. I can honestly say that the pictures do not do it justice and that in actual life it is an extremely huge vehicle. My only complaint is that even with 22" wheels there is still a lot of space in the wheelarches which when photographed diminishes its proportions because you are drawn to how the vehicle sits.
 
Having seen Cullinan in the flesh now. I can honestly say that the pictures do not do it justice and that in actual life it is an extremely huge vehicle. My only complaint is that even with 22" wheels there is still a lot of space in the wheelarches which when photographed diminishes its proportions because you are drawn to how the vehicle sits.

Yeah I'm sure.

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Having seen Cullinan in the flesh now. I can honestly say that the pictures do not do it justice and that in actual life it is an extremely huge vehicle. My only complaint is that even with 22" wheels there is still a lot of space in the wheelarches which when photographed diminishes its proportions because you are drawn to how the vehicle sits.

So you saw it at Villa d’Este?
 
I’m looking forward to the next Ghost. The current one has been significantly dated by the new Phantom. I’m hearing they’re going a very evolutionary route (no surprise) and that it’ll likely retain the Ghost nomenclature.

Who knows maybe 5 years from now used Dawn prices will be very attractive. Still the prettiest new Rolls available.
 
I am intrigued by this development because it is so close to the Cully's release. I mean, it's not even been a month since it officially debuted. I do wonder if their client base has been particularly critical or initial sales haven't been up to snuff.

And how much of the styling direction is set by the lead designer in that I have strong feeling that BMW's supervisory board determines whether a product's design directive leans either more towards a conservative design or more towards something adventurous. It could also be he wanted to stick around for the Cully's launch and then jump ship for something else soon after its debut.
 
I am intrigued by this development because it is so close to the Cully's release. I mean, it's not even been a month since it officially debuted. I do wonder if their client base has been particularly critical or initial sales haven't been up to snuff.

And how much of the styling direction is set by the lead designer in that I have strong feeling that BMW's supervisory board determines whether a product's design directive leans either more towards a conservative design or more towards something adventurous. It could also be he wanted to stick around for the Cully's launch and then jump ship for something else soon after its debut.
Or he was against the current design of the Cully and had some other ideas, but they were not accepted from the mother company.
 
Sounds like damage control to me, guess Rolls-Royce isn't satisfied with the design themselves of their SUV.
 
LOL ... Guys ... watching too much FoxNews, listening to InfoWars and reading Breitbart & WikiLeaks. :D:p

Not everything is a conspiracy theory, or every action having causation in some other yet simultaneous (but independent) action.

Stop imagining causation where there is absolutely none!

Mr. Taylor's departure has been od the AvH's desk for quite some time now ... But it has been agreed he would stay for Cullinan's launch, and then he could be released immediately. It wasn't announced earlier exactly because of the then upcoming premieres the Cullinan - not to undermine Mr. Taylor's role & authority as RR Chief designer. A wise move IMHO. Otherwise more focus would be on him leaving (why and where to) instead on Cullinan itself.

Mind designers / design chiefs constantly seek new challenges. And not much challenges @ Rolls-Royce right now - after Dawn, Vision 100, new Phantom, Cullinan, and new Ghost (design process finished). A perfect time to go & to seek new professional challenges. Mr. Taylor has done excellent job @ RR, and he can now move on.

I despise some "journalists" who tend to produce sensationalist titles, using words like "abruptly" , "surprisingly" , "unexpectedly" etc ... implying some sort of scandal, argument, wrongdoing etc. ... just for the mere purpose of click-baits.

Information pimps - that's what they are.
 
LOL ... Guys ... watching too much FoxNews, listening to InfoWars and reading Breitbart & WikiLeaks. :D:p

Not everything is a conspiracy theory, or every action having causation in some other yet simultaneous (but independent) action.

Stop imagining causation where there is absolutely none!

Mr. Taylor's departure has been od the AvH's desk for quite some time now ... But it has been agreed he would stay for Cullinan's launch, and then he could be released immediately. It wasn't announced earlier exactly because of the then upcoming premieres the Cullinan - not to undermine Mr. Taylor's role & authority as RR Chief designer. A wise move IMHO. Otherwise more focus would be on him leaving (why and where to) instead on Cullinan itself.

Mind designers / design chiefs constantly seek new challenges. And not much challenges @ Rolls-Royce right now - after Dawn, Vision 100, new Phantom, Cullinan, and new Ghost (design process finished). A perfect time to go & to seek new professional challenges. Mr. Taylor has done excellent job @ RR, and he can now move on.

I despise some "journalists" who tend to produce sensationalist titles, using words like "abruptly" , "surprisingly" , "unexpectedly" etc ... implying some sort of scandal, argument, wrongdoing etc. ... just for the mere purpose of click-baits.

Information pimps - that's what they are.

Don't be silly @EnI that explanation doesn't support anyone's personal narrative or feelings about the Cullinan, it can't possibly be a reasonable explanation!
 

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Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Limited is a British luxury automobile maker and a wholly-owned subsidiary of BMW AG since 2003 - as the exclusive manufacturer of Rolls-Royce-branded motor cars. The company is headquartered in Goodwood, West Sussex, England, United Kingdom. BMW AG has no direct relationship with Rolls-Royce-branded vehicles produced before 2003, other than having briefly supplied components and engines. From 1906 to 2003, cars were manufactured and marketed under the Rolls-Royce brand by Rolls-Royce Motors. The Bentley Motors Limited subsidiary of Volkswagen AG is its direct successor.
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