Vs Road and Track : 458 Italia vs LP 570-4 Superleggera

[emve]

Results :

Ferrari 458 Italia

0-60mph - 3,0s
0-100mph - 6,7s
0-120mph - 9,6s

1/4mile - 11,0s @ 128,5 mph

braking 60mph - 112ft
skidpad - 1,00g
slalom - 73,4 mph

Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera

0-60mph - 3,0s
0-100mph - 6,8s
0-120mph - 9,7s

1/4mile - 11,0s @ 128,9 mph

braking 60mph - 109ft
skidpad - 0,99g
slalom - 74,3 mph

article : The Ultimate Ferrari vs. Lamborghini Road Test - 458 Italia vs. Gallardo Superleggera

 

[martinbo]

Thanks emve for your great contributions...

Well, in terms of performance you couldn't get closer than that. But, for me at least, in terms of looks the 458 Italia makes the even the still, exquisitely attractive, Gallardo look a little outdated. 458 - what an incredible looking machine, honestly.

 

[Human]

I love the 458 although in these comparison pics that Lambo steals the show

 

[martinbo]

I love the 458 although in these comparison pics that Lambo steals the show

Impossible, Vrystaad! Lambo looks slabby and decidedly end-of-life-cycle with its decals, black rims and rear wing.

Complexly formed, flowing curves of the Ferrari for me please.

 

[Tarek]

I can only imagine Italia's scuderia version.

 

[Guibo]

Tough choice between these two. I might go with the LP on looks, though the Ferrari's profile is gorgeous.

From R&T:
"Driving the Superleggera requires a bit more effort, but you are rewarded with a stronger sense of connection to the pavement."

I think that's quite an accomplishment, given the AWD system.

 

[Merc1]

Searing performance.....cars are getting ridiculous now with these under 4 sec 0-60 times. Ferrari for me please.


M

 

[330CIZHP]

Both cars weigh roughly the same (~ 3500 lbs), but 458 Italia has the advantage of the much shorter gearing (5.3:1 is the shortest final drive I have ever seen) and a higher redline, yet the LP570-4 was neck and neck all the way to 130 mph. Nice.

 

[lambornima]

Both cars weigh roughly the same (~ 3500 lbs), but 458 Italia has the advantage of the much shorter gearing (5.3:1 is the shortest final drive I have ever seen) and a higher redline, yet the LP570-4 was neck and neck all the way to 130 mph. Nice.

the ferrari also has an extra gear and near instantanous gearchanges vs lambo's 0.1-0.2 second changes. not to mention slightly less powerloss since its rwd. so its really impressive that the lambo outaccelerates it inbetween gearshifts and due to those shifts the results evenout. and its been speculated that the LP Gallardos have been underrated in terms of power.

with a DSG system, over three gears the LP570 would theoretically shave off another ~0.6 second from its 0-130 time (dunno how this would corrolate distance wise in the 1/4 mile). hope lambo give the G-replacement one.

 

[Guibo]

I'm confident the LP would be even faster with a dual-clutch, but even that transmission is very fast, and quite an improvement over the performance of the LP560-4.

458 vs LP570: __LP560:


458 has a couple of laggy shifts, and a couple with the "surging effect" we've seen in some other DCT-equipped cars.

 

[Mr Robert]

I think I have a thing for yellow Ferraris...

 

[Human]

Impossible, Vrystaad! Lambo looks slabby and decidedly end-of-life-cycle with its decals, black rims and rear wing.

Complexly formed, flowing curves of the Ferrari for me please.

Ja, ok. I will admit if I had to or rather had the money to sign the cheque I'd have the 458....since there is a Bull in the Lambo emblem and they lost against the Sharks, I'd rather go for the Prancing Horse

 

[footie]

Impossible, Vrystaad! Lambo looks slabby and decidedly end-of-life-cycle with its decals, black rims and rear wing.

Complexly formed, flowing curves of the Ferrari for me please.

You either like Lamborghini's looks or you don't, I happen to agree with you here, I much prefer the look of the Ferrari and it's probably why both of us prefer the R8 over it as well.

with a DSG system, over three gears the LP570 would theoretically shave off another ~0.6 second from its 0-130 time (dunno how this would corrolate distance wise in the 1/4 mile). hope lambo give the G-replacement one.

I haven't heard that they were but in this day and age to not offer DSG would be a big mistake in my opinion as every supercar manufacturer is going down that route.

 

[330CIZHP]

The whole DSG thing has been played out. Yes, it is more efficient and a few tenths faster in its shifts, but the net effect is minimal.

I think this is a perfect example where with similar power to weight despite taller gears, higher drivetrain loss (AWD) and single clutch, the LP570-4 was right there with 458 the whole time in a straight line.

I haven't heard that they were but in this day and age to not offer DSG would be a big mistake in my opinion as every supercar manufacturer is going down that route.

 

[Merc1]

DSG is still way better off the track though..


M

 

[330CIZHP]

DSG is still way better off the track though..


M

Edit: In 458 Italia's defense, the LP570-4 indeed is wearing P Zero Cora tires while the 458 Italia is wearing on P Zero tires. A sizable difference there in their rubber since Corsas are super-slick track tires giving LP570-4 the upper hand.






I think you mean daily driving? You are correct. DSG is much better off the track.

Even on the track, in terms of smooth shifts in turns to avoid upsetting balance of the chassis, DSG is better since single-clutch usually slams it into gear causing shift shock.

However a dual clutch always tries to guess your next shift and pre-selects the other gear since one clutch handles the even gears while the others handles the odd number gears so it guesses based on what it thinks you will be doing (say, upshift by 1 gear). If you end up doing something against what it was "hoping" you will (say, rapid taps two gear downshift), it needs quickly swap out the gear resulting in shift time increase.

 

[Mafalda]

No mention about R&T's final verdict?

 

[lambornima]

No mention about R&T's final verdict?

"So the final decision really comes down to personal preference. The all-around exotic crown would go to the Ferrari 458 Italia. The no-nonsense, singularly track-focused crown would go to the Lamborghini Superleggera. For any car enthusiast, having either one of these exotic overachievers in the garage will do."

I would actually imagine the LP550 being more of a competitor to the 458. RWD, not as hardcore etc etc.

 

[Mafalda]

"So the final decision really comes down to personal preference. The all-around exotic crown would go to the Ferrari 458 Italia. The no-nonsense, singularly track-focused crown would go to the Lamborghini Superleggera. For any car enthusiast, having either one of these exotic overachievers in the garage will do."

I would actually imagine the LP550 being more of a competitor to the 458. RWD, not as hardcore etc etc.

this is a good answer!
even so: i think I'd be happy with the "worst" of them