Revised Maybach range revealed

[Sovereign]

Maybach has the following specification:

Monocoque body structure w/41% high-strength/low-alloy steel. And the rest of the safety features and other features are given here in detail:

http://www.openroadmercedesbenz.com/used-cars-details.aspx?year=2007&make=36&model=707&style=293319&vk=980470

Checking all the features and specification, the car infact seems to be ahead of its time by quite a margin. Mercedes Benz has no issues in technical domain. I think the problem is with the way the car look in this category and its visual links with W220. W220, although very attractive, was lacking in a key feature, Imposing Design, one of the key design aspect of Mercedes throughout its history weather it be the W100 600, or W126.

 

[K-A]

Yeah, that 41% is pretty incredible for the time it came out. You do pay quite a penny for the car though.

 

[Pagani]

Maybach has the following specification:

Monocoque body structure w/41% high-strength/low-alloy steel. And the rest of the safety features and other features are given here in detail:

The 220's problem was not an imposing design; it was the feel and quality of the interior and its overall reliability. The car achieved its purpose design-wise, especially coming in the foot of its predecessor, which was bashed for being 'too imposing.' I remember the reception the car got from the press, as well as how it was perceived in public, the car was a design hit. Some went as far as calling it the most beatiful car in the world. For the time, it was impressive.

 

[Merc1]

The 220's problem was not an imposing design; it was the feel and quality of the interior and its overall reliability. The car achieved its purpose design-wise, especially coming in the foot of its predecessor, which was bashed for being 'too imposing.' I remember the reception the car got from the press, as well as how it was perceived in public, the car was a design hit. Some went as far as calling it the most beatiful car in the world. For the time, it was impressive.

Yep, your right. Inside and out the W220 was a beauty and such a dramatic change in direction from the W140. Its still a beautiful car today, especially the coupe version the C215 CL. I want one, but I don't want another Benz from the Shremp era. A nice 2006 S500 Sport can be had at an unbelievable price now, but the reliability scares me off, ditto for the CL500.



M

 

[Tarek]

Yep, your right. Inside and out the W220 was a beauty and such a dramatic change in direction from the W140. Its still a beautiful car today, especially the coupe version the C215 CL. I want one, but I don't want another Benz from the Shremp era. A nice 2006 S500 Sport can be had at an unbelievable price now, but the reliability scares me off, ditto for the CL500.



M

The reliability of the FL S/CL are GREATLY improved,so if i were u i'd go and get that gorgeous CL500 or even CL55 V8 KOMPRESSOR.

 

[Merc1]

The reliability of the FL S/CL are GREATLY improved,so if i were u i'd go and get that gorgeous CL500 or even CL55 V8 KOMPRESSOR.

Improved yes, but the CL in particular is still a breathtakingly expensive car to service and run. Still thought a C215 CL500 Sport is a thought that I can't seem to ever shake.


M

 

[K-A]

The 220's problem was not an imposing design; it was the feel and quality of the interior and its overall reliability. The car achieved its purpose design-wise, especially coming in the foot of its predecessor, which was bashed for being 'too imposing.' I remember the reception the car got from the press, as well as how it was perceived in public, the car was a design hit. Some went as far as calling it the most beatiful car in the world. For the time, it was impressive.

Agreed. The W220 was such a design hit, it was still a Sales success despite the horrible quality, and overall upsetting interior.

I remember when it was launched too, and during its years on the market, it was looked at as very prestigious, and was widely loved, I think the design more than did its job for M-B. The W140 was great, but I never got too into it, when the W220 came out, it was like a breath of fresh air to me, and it aged ridiculously gracefully when compared to the instantly dated W140.

About the CL, I gotta say, as much as I kinda like the new CL, I feel it lost its prestigiousness in the market. The W215 was such an elegant and very recognized/prestigious design. The W216 just lost that, and I think Sales reflect it. Just looks too generic, lacks what the 215 has during its time. I think M-B changing the name back to "S" has something to do with this.

 

[FFranek]

AutoBild.de showed some renderings of upcoming new Maybach, but they looks more like facelifting of current model, instead new fresh design.

 

[LaArtist]

^Hah..i almost puked..

 

[Osnabrueck]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

NO.

 

[Cashmere]

looks like one of the p!mp mobiles straight out of GTA4

 

[MBFanToDeath]

Avarvarii? Larson? Huckfeldt was the king! This is ....! Concept Ocean Drive mixed with F700

 

[SCOTT27]

Concept Ocean Drive was originally a Maybach, until it was rebadged as a Mercedes-Benz.

Does not matter who the artist is they still get the SD cards with official and preliminary sketches @ AutoBild.

 

[HighestOfHigh]

AutoBild.de showed some renderings of upcoming new Maybach, but they looks more like facelifting of current model, instead new fresh design.

 

[Wunderkind]

If the next Maybach looks anything like this rendering, Mercedes may as well throw the towel in now.

 

[Merc1]

It won't, it can't. That is the same car as now with some changes. Its like a SL level facelift.


M

 

[Wunderkind]

It won't, it can't. That is the same car as now with some changes. Its like a SL level facelift.


M

If I am Dr Zetsche, I would bit the bullet and forget about updating the current platform or any nip-tuck facelifts. I would design and build a brand new Maybach that looks nothing like the forthcoming S Class.

The way I see it, Mercedes can continue to drag its feet in the sand and soldier on with the current Maybach until its market disappears and retire the Maybach name. Or, spend the money and build something new that can compete with the latest offerings from Bentley and RR.

 

[Merc1]

Mercedes is pretty stubborn, but he is a smart guy so I think they will come up with something totally new this time. If that doesn't work then yeah they will fold the brand, but I don't think they will fold Maybach after the first attempt.

This time the car will be ahead of the S-Class hopefully, by being based on the W222. Ideally it would preview the next S-Class, not the other way around. The Maybach should be the most advanced car money can buy, but that is hard for Mercedes-Benz engineers to do - essentially upstaging the S-Class.

Imagine a Maybach with a killer design by Aston, that looks nothing like a Mercedes, but not like an Aston either w/ all the next generation technology we've been reading about for for the W222 and even more.

The W222 is coming first, but the Maybach needs to use that as a base and upstage it in technology and look nothing like it. Maybach should have options that you simply can't get on the S-Class, well at least for a few years.



M

 

[Centurion]

I'm afraid the train to the upper echelon of luxury cars will have already have passed by 2015, if that's the year MB has scheduled for the Maybach brand to return to relevance. By then RR and Bentley will have manifested themselves in consumers minds as the only true super luxury brands.

The failure of the MM brand to make a successful comeback is a lesson in how costly wrong decision making can be in the auto industry. VAG spends plentiful of golden one euro coins into hiring personnel with expertise in the science of decision-making. For this reason, the giant auto concern has had few ill-steps.

Mercedes on the other hand has been struggling to mount ant long term success with their subsidiary brands Smart and Maybach, not to mention the stagnating R-Class. In fact, Mercedes have been rather uninventive with carving new niches and are currently trailing the tail of BMW AG and VAG.

 

[Merc1]

The CLS has done just that, carved an entirely new niche which everyone has tried to enter and emulate.

BMW has the flop of the 5GT also, hardly a success.

Smart and Maybach yeah, a mess, but Mercedes-Benz isn't anywhere near being in the same shape as Maybach or Smart.

Poeple have been predicting the end of luxury cars, V8s, hp for years and they've been wrong over and over again. There will always be a market for high-end luxury cars and when/if Mercedes gets it right with Maybach, the market will be there.

M