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The Porsche 992 is the eighth generation of the Porsche 911. Predecessor: Porsche 911 (991). Production: 2018–
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This is a fun comparison. Although I am not surprised that they dissed the 996, the 996 is starting to catch people’s eye. Although it lacks the round headlights, the 996C4S is gorgeous in blue with turbine alloys. Most crucially the 996 drives as well as the 997 but for considerably less money.
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This is a fun comparison. Although I am not surprised that they dissed the 996, the 996 is starting to catch people’s eye. Although it lacks the round headlights, the 996C4S is gorgeous in blue with turbine alloys. Most crucially the 996 drives as well as the 997 but for considerably less money.
My least favorite 911 series. But man...this particular example looks pretty damn smart. 996 Carrera 4s coupe with the Turbo Rotor 5 spokes in satin silver...Yep-that's quite a number.
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I agree that the base 996 variant aren't the crown jewels of the 911. However the 996 C4S is coming around and is getting more coverage on YouTube. IMO it's a distinctive looking 911 and is less soft/skinny at the rear compared with a 997CS or C4S. Although the 996TT is attractive I do like the "touring" look of the C4S.
Porsche should bring the 5 spoke turbine alloys back.
Last week I saw a blue 996 C4S that appeared to have been recently detailed and it looked jawdropping. It's actually an affordable car to buy if you set aside some funds for maintenance.
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^996's flaws were more than skin deep. Everything was cheap about it - the interior bits, the tactile stuff, the way the doors closed and of course the worst - the IMS bearing issues with the M96 engine. Only the Mezger powered variants - Turbo, GT3, GT2 were spared from it. And yes, the IMS issues lingered on to the early 997s to, so I would stay away from them too.
Of course, all the cheap stuff helped Porsche survive a lean patch, so credit where it is due. But I wouldn't go buy a non-GT 996.
Of course, all the cheap stuff helped Porsche survive a lean patch, so credit where it is due. But I wouldn't go buy a non-GT 996.
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The IMS failure is lower than the Internet can make people believe. If catastrophic engine failure is a worry than the IMS and clutch can be upgraded for £2,000/$2,400/€2,400 for peace of mind. This is not crazy money compared consider the age of a 996 or 997.
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The dream is a GT3 but financially I am there yet. Used 997GTS are priced like gold dust, thankfully the 6 cylinder 718 GTS has come to the rescue. My priority is driving enjoyment and I don’t mind whether the car is 1 or 10 years old. Newer cars are brilliant for many reasons but some leave me a bit numb unless driven at the limit.
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Be a little wary of the GT3 dream. Before the 991, they are very raw and not a car best used daily. Awesome, weekend/track cars.
Agree with you so much on the older cars being more fun...but I would consider many other cars from that era before a 996 - E36/46 M3, M coupe, S2000 all come to top of my head. If Porsche, 987 (especially .2) and 981 anyday over a 996.
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As it should be. To be honest: I still remember very well my first experience with a 996 (3.6L version) at a higher speed run on the Autobahn above 200km/h. I was just scared! So unstable, such a light front axle! For me this kills all driving enjoyment! At its time the 996 was imho one of the weakest sportscars in regards to highspeed stability. You need confidence in a car, to have enjoyment. But for the 996 you need balls of steel (which I didn't have).
997 became much better in this respect ... but only the 991 did really shine here!
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^^
That's good to know.
My priorities for a fun car are:
-Steering feel and directness
-Gearbox usage both when warm or cold
-Body control and weight transfer through corners
-Approachable and driveable at 7 or 8/10ths.
Roads driven on: Twisty and undulating British b roads.
Test driving an S2000, 997, 981 and 996C4S it will quickly reveal which car will be complimentary to my modded M140i.
That's good to know.
Ha! Honda S2000. Good call. Maybe it's because I am approaching my mid 30s but the desire for a convertible is strong. I have driven a 981 Cayman and Cayman S.
My priorities for a fun car are:
-Steering feel and directness
-Gearbox usage both when warm or cold
-Body control and weight transfer through corners
-Approachable and driveable at 7 or 8/10ths.
Roads driven on: Twisty and undulating British b roads.
Test driving an S2000, 997, 981 and 996C4S it will quickly reveal which car will be complimentary to my modded M140i.
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Isn't this a legitimate petrolhead dream, though? Everything you mentioned (i.e. M3, S2000, etc) follows the typical front engine RWD layout. The 911 anatomy is something completely different and I think something work trying. The 996 is the easiest way in.
I've been looking through the 996 offerings in Greece for a while now, for exactly the reason you wrote. I'm too broke for another. A nice 996 Carrera S for 20 to 25k though, is not that bad of a deal in a market where an entry level 997 with less than 200.000 km will got for around 40k euros. Not that I intend to buy one in the near future, but as a thought exercise.
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If the rear engine dynamics is the exprecince you are explicitly seeking, then, definitely, 996 is a great entry point. But if you just want a great driving experience, and agnostic of the engine layout/weight bias...
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Sure, there are better, far better cars to have. I'd be a fool not to know that, especially after 15 years of being a member here
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You know the real reason why they don't do a Turbo S in Targa format (whereas they do in Cabrio)?
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Lovely, but I have to see it in real life.
The 991 targa was a stunner, somehow on picture the 992 body seems to big for the targa treatment. Also the targa GTS is where it will be. Highly anticipating that one. I need to get down to the dealer and try this targa out and see it for myself.
meanwhile check out this insane 991 targa GTS.
The 991 targa was a stunner, somehow on picture the 992 body seems to big for the targa treatment. Also the targa GTS is where it will be. Highly anticipating that one. I need to get down to the dealer and try this targa out and see it for myself.
meanwhile check out this insane 991 targa GTS.
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