765LT [Official] Mclaren 765LT

[WBarnes]

True. Hahaha!
I was too enthusiastic about it, the comparison to Samsung is more fitting as menti...

It'll be interesting to see where this car fits in next to the Senna. What's scary about their decisions is that the Pista never really caught up with the 720S, but just in case they launched this anyway.

 

[Merc1]

McLaren is here to stay. Stunning cars in that last video. Two spiders coming up, the 765LT and GT, I would guess.

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[Rolf]

This thing will kick the Ferrari 488 Pista ass black and blue. Unbelievable performance probably will be less than 7sec to 200kmh and like 18sec to 300kmh.

 

[Levi68]

I loved the MP4-12C, but now I don't care about anthing from them, so much that I don't care if they make or don't make cuvs.

I just voiced my opinion because I see so much 'McLaren' in 'new posts' , while there is nothing of interest.

I guess as much as I don't care about this brand anymore, that ittle does anyone care about my opinion I just posted. But well, that's the internet...

 

[tristatez28lt1]

They've been mainstream for 8 years now and everyone expects the world from them. Sales incr...

Disagreed. The depreciation on Ferraris is incredibly low and one of the lowest in the industry. They protect their RVs through not offering the normal leasing by miles but with buyback at a predetermined price - that's what the customer gets when he returns the car. Also, Aventadors hold their value well.

Check McLaren. Only supercar OEM that you can buy from stock. Immediately. I actually think that McLaren is oversupplied and has a weak reputation for reliability (570S specifically). Ferrari carries almost zero stock. Long waiting times - it's something special.

Sales structure-wise we are combining Timex/Casio (McLaren) vs. Audemars Piguet/Rolex (Ferrari).

“McLaren vehicles have an average depreciation in the first three years from new of 25 percent.”

 

[drifter1]

Disagreed. The depreciation on Ferraris is incredibly low and one of the lowest in the...

Ok. What was the MSRP on the 488?

Come now. Do you really think people are going to take you seriously with the Casio-Rolex analogy?
That's a pretty myopic way of looking at things.

Yeah I know, the old reliability angle. Mine has 9000 km's on it currently, driven on kill mode 90 percent of the time. Ask me how many problems I've had with it.

Denigrating another brand over your preferred one. Hardly a novel concept.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Depreciation on 488’s is low?

 

[tristatez28lt1]

Ok. What was the MSRP on the 488?

Come now. Do you really think people are going to take yo...

Let’s take personal opinion/experience out. This is not about better or worse. Let’s be stoic.

Rolex vs. Swatch
How much stock does a Ferrari dealer carry on average?
How much stock does a McLaren dealer carry in average?
How long for order fulfillment on average?

 

[drifter1]

Let’s take personal opinion/experience out. This is not about better or worse. Let’...

You're painting with some pretty broad strokes here, without taking into accounts regional factors etc.

Based on what you're advocating, all I'd have to do is go down to my local Ferrari dealer to disprove what you're saying. If they have any cars in stock for immediate delivery I'd have to relegate them to the "not special" bin. That's totally subjective and frankly ridiculous.

Now if you stated, "I don't find them special", that would be much more palatable. Different strokes for different folks. A lot of people do find them special.

What you've just done is akin to me coming up with my own set of standards to make a point. For instance, I could have stated that Ferraris just aren't special since they're slower than every McLaren road car they compete against. I, however, still consider them to be very special.

 

[manuelf]

I don't quite understand how they saved 20kg on wheels. Forged Alu wheels of that size are ab...

I'm also a bit sceptical ... just like you ... but after watching the vid with Henry Catchpole .... it gets clearer: They say, that they have almost 20kg in savings for the whole wheelset (including bolts, rims and tires)
So - 4-5 kg saving per complete wheel.
The Trofeo R (which is standard for the LT) alone saves at least a kg or even more compared to the PZero Corsa.
The rims - already light on the 720s - were further slimmed down ... they were removing further material off and bolts/nuts now in titanium... so combined per complete wheel something like 4kg+ saving is not that unrealistic then...

 

[tristatez28lt1]

You're painting with some pretty broad strokes here, without taking into accounts regional fa...

I agree with you. We're all individuals with our own, different emotions and opinions. I'm playing the devil's advocate here as I love McLaren and believe that they're technically superior. However, I also believe that numbers don't matter as much to the broad public/target customers in that class. And Ferrari has been quite extraordinary in building the Ferrari myth and "special" factor through their Sales and Marketing (most importantly their CRM).

Ferrari has cars in stock, too. Cali Ts and one or two 812s. Really a shame but money rules the world.

*sorry to detract the thread, this is my last post.

 

[drifter1]

I agree with you. We're all individuals with our own, different emotions and opinions....

You're a gentleman and a scholar.

 

[mihc]

Ok. What was the MSRP on the 488?

Come now. Do you really think people are going to take yo...

Which car do you have?

 

[tristatez28lt1]

You're a gentleman and a scholar.

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[drifter1]

Which car do you have?

570 s Track Pack

 

[mihc]

570 s Track Pack

Wow, congrats. How do you like it so far?

 

[Jo_Sta7]

After a few days of looking at the 765LT. Damn, it looks great. So mean. So purposeful.

 

[drifter1]

Wow, congrats. How do you like it so far?

Thoroughly enjoying it. It goes like stink. On a normal road with no preparation I dragy'd it at 10.6@ 134 mph (~217 kph) on crappy SA fuel, which is bonkers for a rear wheel drive car with that power rating. Our 95 is more like 91 octane over here.

Above 200 km/h is where it has no equal in its class IMHO. 0-300 km/h in ~ 24 seconds. That is truly bonkers. A GT2RS with 700 hp does it in 22.9. They are truly vicious from a roll. So much so, that It's hard to keep track of the speedometer once it gets going. It's so unrelenting that it almost looks fake.

The car has been rock solid and the service from the dealership has been top notch. It was always on my radar, but the dealership experience swayed me.

My car has only one minor quirk. Every so often I get a message that reads "ensure key is present". I know exactly how to remedy that. It takes two seconds. It's no big deal. Other than that it's bulletproof.

I've mentioned that I drive it on kill mode once it's warmed up. To give you an idea, I get around 250 km's on a full tank. Through all of this the car has been rock solid. With a 3 year warranty and an option to extend for 12 years, what more does one need. That says to me that McLaren is prepared to stand behind their product. I'm a convert and I'll continue to drive it like I stole it.

The other perceived negative is all the attention one gets. I cannot go anywhere without a mob forming. If you're somewhat introverted and reserved that does pose a problem. Some may view this as a positive.

I've driven the 720 s. That's on another level performance wise. Almost too fast
Most recently I drove the GT, which is much more subdued, but bloody fast as well. What impresses me about the these different models is how their interiors are not carried over from one model to the next, like other manufacturers do.The layout in the 570s is completely different to the 720 and the GT. I didn't even know how to start the 720s. That foldable dash in the 720 S is really cool too.

I was offered a 600 LT, but decided against it as the new Sport Series hybrid with a rumored 680 PS is around the corner. It will either be that or that other fire-breathing beast they just launched the other day if I can get an allocation

I've looked at the competition. Based on my expectations, the McLaren was a perfect fit for me. If you are in the market for a Lamborghini, Ferrari or a McLaren, l'd try them all. You can't go wrong with any of them.

 

[mihc]

Thoroughly enjoying it. It goes like stink. On a normal road with no preparation I dragy'd it...

Great post, thank you. And congrats on your great purchase.

 

[mihc]

Grey one.