650S [Official] McLaren 650S

[Monster]

This was actually allowed to happen? I mean, how seriously was this vetted? I get that the Woking outfit is tiny compared to other manufacturers, but I imagine there are enough people there where when this idea was be considered to say "This is not a good idea at all. This might actually look half-arsed." This is just *in Clarkson's voice* "stoooo-pid"

I thought Ron Dennis would have too much pride to let this happen?

 

[Sayyaaf]

I went to see the response around different forums. Some people accepted it. While most others, despised it.

This can't be taken seriously from McLaren. I mean a MC-12 with different Aero would have been much better compared to this.

 

[Bridster]

This car really does make very little sense, and the little sense it does make, it just makes it look weak.

The only reason I can think of for not just making a lighter and more powerful version of the 12C - which is something Mclaren has already showed they can do quite well - and instead introducing a whole new model is, that the intended engineering changes, like for example implementing the dynamic ride height system (which would probably give it a big edge against the competitors around a track), must have been too extensive. Combine that with the popular sentiment that the 12C looks too bland (therefore perhaps creating a need for a brand unique look) and Mclaren's probable satisfaction with how the front of the P1 looks, I can imagine how creating a whole new model might have seemed like a good idea.

Of course it isn't, but then again, Mclaren has a habit of not registering that maybe even something else than just speed and things you can measure might make a car attractive, so it wouldn't surprise me if concerns like their car being just a mash of two already existing designs - that were already accused of being overly similar -, like their car not being unique because of limited time and funds - and so in turn looking cheap, might go unnoticed.

 

[Betty Swollocks]

I'm prepared to give it time. I'm astounded a company like McLaren, and Ron Dennis, could drop the ball so much. So, maybe there's something I'm not getting.

But on first impressions it does seem like fuzzy thinking.

 

[emve]

I, the original mclaren hater, like it. I think the interpretation as all new model is not correct. This is a direct rival for 458 speciale. Afaik mclaren expects demand for original 12c will be now minimal, so it could be also considered as a facelift, a mk2 12c.

Second, I dont think a mclaren needs to be beautiful. It is a road weapon. I like the interior especially with seats from P1. Original production issues are most likely sorted out so this is the Mac to get.

0-200 km/h is in 8,4s.

 

[Bridster]

I think the interpretation as all new model is not correct. This is a direct rival for 458 speciale. Afaik mclaren expects demand for original 12c will be now minimal, so it could be also considered as a facelift, a mk2 12c.

That doesn't matter. The message Mclaren is sending is: we basically had one idea of how to make a car and we made that car, then we refined the very same idea it to make a second car, but now we are really out of ideas, so we just recycle what we already have to make a third car/update our first.

 

[Giannis]

At first I thought this was the MP4 facelift. I only realized this is a new model when I read Monster's Aston post. I gotta say, it's the funniest thing I've read all week.

 

[Sunny]

It looks like an Internet photoshopper designed it - you know one of this who just mashes the latest design from a company to render a future model. Shame on McLaren if it is really the reality. They will hurt even the otherwise awesome P1 by making this look like it.

 

[TheNewBATMAN]

Look,

We've seen it before. Aston released the Virage "to slot between DB9 and Vanquish". Then they erased it and merge the two models into the new DB9.

McLaren is following suit. 12C's design is heavily critized as not modern enough especially against the competition and when compared to their own P1. But they will make their 12c owners very angry if they release a major facelift today.

So they now launch it as the third model (which was never a plan) and in a year or two, this will be the new 12C, they will keep one name of the two.

This model was NEVER in the plan as the plan has always been a hypercar, a supercar (12C) and an entry level everyday supercar (P13)

Just like the Virage was never in Aston plan and suddenly born out of nowhere.

Marketing strategy of silently introducing an early major facelift without upsetting so many first time owners.

 

[Cashmere]

I was expecting something along the lines of the mp4-12c with the high down force kit, but with a more aggressive styling and with extensive use of CF......but this? LOL,looks like something straight out of pimp my ride

 

[Gianclaudio]

This has to be the best forum of the internet, ever, bar none. I can't even start to explain how much I laught with some of the comments made in this very thread. Pure magic.

 

[Star&Car]

If the P1 hadn't been sold out,I doubt this would have been happen.

 

[emve]

Acceleration
0-100 kph (62 mph) 3.0 s*
0-200 kph (124 mph) 8.4 s*
0-300 kph (186 mph) 25.4 s*
0-400 m / ¼ mile 10.5 @ 224 km/h (139 mph)*

Braking
100-0 km/h 30.5 m (100 ft)
200-0 km/h 123 m (404 ft)
300-0 km/h 271 m 889 ft)

*with standard Pirelli P Zero™ Corsa tyres

http://media.mclarenautomotive.com/release/240/

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/02/17/new-mclaren-650s-details-revealed/

 

[Yaz]

If the P1 hadn't been sold out,I doubt this would have been happen.

So, this is a poor man's P1?!

 

[Merc1]

Am I missing something here, isn't this just the current car with a new front end and more power?

M

 

[Deleted member 25]

I just hope this is not the sub-MP12C 911 competitor.

 

[klier]

Am I missing something here, isn't this just the current car with a new front end and more power?

M

Yes. It's a facelift of MP4.

People are severely overreacting in this thread.

I went to see the response around different forums. Some people accepted it. While most others, despised it.

You think McLaren cares about some forum fanboys who never in their lives will be able to buy one?

 

[Centurion]

Yes. It's a facelift of MP4.

People are severely overreacting in this thread.

They wouldn't had Mclaren made the car simple for everyone to understand. This exemplifies why you shouldn't let engineers market a product. If you have to use a few sentences to explain a product then you have lost. First of all the name is something you would expect to see on the front of a Hewlett Packard printer. Secondly the front resembles their top end model while the rear is from the entry level model.

Lastly, why did they just not name is MP12-S?

 

[Giannis]

This exemplifies why you shouldn't let engineers market a product.

As an engineer, I don't really understand all this hype around marketing.

If I were to promote the new printer, sorry McLaren, I'd just mention that it is fast and it works. What is it good at and if it works. That's all you need to know. Everything else is secondary.

 

[Monster]

They wouldn't had Mclaren made the car simple for everyone to understand. This exemplifies why you shouldn't let engineers market a product. If you have to use a few sentences to explain a product then you have lost. First of all the name is something you would expect to see on the front of a Hewlett Packard printer.

I don't think Mclaren is letting the engineers to market a product, but marketing people pretending to be engineers to market the product.