martinbo
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Ferrari listened to me.Is it me or i don't see anymore those ugly golden rims?
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F430 [2005-2009] Official: Ferrari reveals F430 Scuderia, not Challenge Stradale
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The update to the 360 with exterior and performance changes. It was unveiled at the 2004 Paris Motor Show. The F430 was later succeeded by the 458 which was unveiled on 28 July 2009. An estimated 16,750 F430s were produced between 2005 and 2009.
LaArtist
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Merc1
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In almost a decade of covering motorshows, only once before has an unveil created such a stampede of attention. And that had more to do with the appearance of Australian pop sensation Kylie Minogue, than precious metal. This time, the uncivilized stampede was caused by two things -- the Ferrari 430 Scuderia and seven-time F1 World Champion Michael Schumacher, who was joined on stage by Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo.
The chisel-jawed German was in Frankfurt to unveil a car in which he has had considerable personal input. The Scuderia is the first product of Schumacher's new role as a brand ambassador and crack test driver. While the rest of the world's motoring press clamored for his attention, we pinched a word with Carlo Della Casa, the Team Leader for all the V8 Ferraris.
"In the early stages of development, Michael would drive the car once a month," he explained. "Then, when the project was nearly complete, it was more like once a week. He'd fly into Parma, drive the car on the road to Fiorano, where he'd do some track testing. There'd be a briefing, a drive and then a debrief, just like in Formula 1. He was very methodical and precise in his feedback." Schumacher also carried out testing at the famous Nurburgring Nordschleife test track in Germany, although Della Cassa claimed he'd never attempted to set a lap time.
Schumacher said that his fastest lap at the Fiorano test track was 1minute 25 seconds, which matches his time for the Enzo supercar. If that's true, then it reveals just how special the Scuderia really is. This car is much, much more than just a stirpped out version of the standard 430. The gearchange is down to a mere 60 milliseconds (from 150), while the mass is reduced by 100kg (220 pounds) and power is up to from 483 to 503 horsepower. Trick aerodynamics, which includes moving the exhaust to the center of the rear of the car, have also seen a reduction in drag with no loss of downforce.
Inside, you'll find Alcantara seats and trimming with aluminum where you might expect to find carpet. Della Casa promises that this car is even louder under full acceleration than the standard 430. We'll of course, reserve judgment unil we've driven it but if this car is even half as good as it sounds, it should be sensational. -- Alistair Weaver, Contributor
Straightline - 2007 Frankfurt Auto Show: Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Hilarious.
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PanterroR
Lap Time Luminary
No, no, my friend... I'm 1000% sure Michael has much more clue than JPM, no question about that and no jealousy at all.
It's just that i can't stand neither of those two ****...
And Luca can kiss my hairy freakin' @$$, he better go and try to build some decent F430 replacement that doesn't get it's @$$ kicked by a Z06 'Vette for 1/3 of price...
It's just that i can't stand neither of those two ****...
And Luca can kiss my hairy freakin' @$$, he better go and try to build some decent F430 replacement that doesn't get it's @$$ kicked by a Z06 'Vette for 1/3 of price...
martinbo
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Sorry Merc1 - you're right... I'm being distracted by our resident Maranellophobe.
Back to the point at hand, this is a lovely and very special Ferrari - I honestly don't know what's not to like.
In the light of such utterly fabulous super-lights in the form of the Superleggera and now this F430 Scuderia, I have to ask one question (you too Luw, bring your Porsche thinking cap); does Porsche need to bring out a GT2 RS to compete toe-to-toe with these two?
Not that a GT2 will be out of its depth from a performance point of view but rather it needs to match these two more on the visual front. GT3 RS style decals, wheels, tyres and a carbon fibre tail spoiler wouldn't go amiss in my opinion.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Sorry Merc1 - you're right... I'm being distracted by our resident Maranellophobe.
Back to the point at hand, this is a lovely and very special Ferrari - I honestly don't know what's not to like.
In the light of such utterly fabulous super-lights in the form of the Superleggera and now this F430 Scuderia, I have to ask one question (you too Luw, bring your Porsche thinking cap); does Porsche need to bring out a GT2 RS to compete toe-to-toe with these two?
Not that a GT2 will be out of its depth from a performance point of view but rather it needs to match these two more on the visual front. GT3 RS style decals, wheels, tyres and a carbon fibre tail spoiler wouldn't go amiss in my opinion.
The ultimate combination would be a GT3 RS with a kit different from the GT3. At the moment I don't see the possibility of a GT2 RS. Even though the GT2 laughters the Superleggera and the Scuderia in performance it still doesn't offer the same racing experience.
A high revving NA engine is the big missing piece in the GT2 for it to be a pure breed racing car. Thankfully there is a GT3 RS which although is under powered offer the hardcore experience seeked by Superleggera, Scuderia, CLK Black Series and GT3 RS clientèle.
For the GT2 to fit in amongst those cars it needs a lighter engine(NA off course) and some weight reduction. On the other hand I have to confess that the though of a GT2 RS with decals and all is mouth watering.
I would love to see a future GT2 owner turn his car into an RS wannabe.
martinbo
Staff member
^ Thanks Luw, just one thing... I don't think that a high-revving NA engine is mandatory for a pure-bred track capable car. I think a turbocharged petrol engine is easily (and proven to be) up to the task.
I think a monstrous, turbo'd GT2 RS would make for a compelling alternative to the larger displacement NA high-revvers.
Furthermore, I think that the transmission is more an important criteria in what makes a good track car.
I think a monstrous, turbo'd GT2 RS would make for a compelling alternative to the larger displacement NA high-revvers.
Furthermore, I think that the transmission is more an important criteria in what makes a good track car.
Centurion
Apex Apex Predator
Yeah the transmission is very important too. if only Porsche can get their PDK tranny out the door before my hair turns grey.
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