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Ferrari LaFerrari (F150), is a limited production mid-engine, mild hybrid sports car. Production: 2013-2018. Successor: Ferrari F80.
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This is not a full-blown review, it's more of an interior review. Off of fchat by MarcNC:
Ok, let's talk LaFerrari now...
I spent some time with a LaFerrari yesterday. I tried to buy one but was rejected (not enough history with Ferrari despite being on my third one). I never looked at the P1 as a consolation prize (I had ordered it well before I had submitted my LaFerrari request) and never felt horrible about not being able to get one. But boy do I want a LaFerrari now after finally getting to sit inside one. What a car!!!
The LaFerrari is an insanely comfortable car! I didn't get to drive it but I did get to sit in the one I'm going to get to drive at some point (he'll drive my P1 as well and we'll both also share keys & track with a 918 owner that day) and I was astounded how comfortable the seats and driving position were. After fifteen minutes inside that car I want one so badly. I know my piddly little $250K over what the owner paid isn't going to get me one however but if someone would take that offer I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Plus forget about the idea that Porsche is somehow winning in luxury - they're not. The LaFerrari kicks the crap out of the 918 and P1 in terms of luxury appointments. It's got all the gadgets: backup camera, satellite radio, height/reach adjustable wheel, adjustable pedal box, most comfortable seat of the 3, most beautiful use of materials (alcantara and carbon fiber) and this has the built in track package with 2 cameras (cockpit and forward-looking). It's also WAY easier to get in and out of than the 918 or P1. Cutting away some of the roof with the doors (not the first time Ferrari has done this) was genius. McLaren should have done that with the P1.
But despite feeling very luxurious it also felt very performance-purposeful (like the P1 does) in its interior layout and design. Everything you need falls right to fingers and there's no superfluous touch screens and unnecessary trim. By comparison the P1 interior feels spartan (more like a race car) and the 918 feels overdone and plasticky (like a 911). Ferrari seems to have gotten it just right.
The fonts and displays were really well done. Ferrari is killing it in these areas lately which isn't something I would have ever thought they'd do after seeing how user-unfriendly the 430 was. The 458 (I own one) is way better than the 430 was but the LaFerrari just cleans everything up a little more to the point of getting it all just right. The digital dash is extremely well done - way nicer than Porsche or McLaren's. Although LaFerrari uses gloss-finish carbon fiber everywhere it still feels purposeful rather than ornate.
Despite the seats being screwed to the chassis they still felt perfectly supportive and the driving position & outward visibility are miles better than 918 although not quite a good as P1. But the seats are more road-car comfortable than P1, although probably less supportive on track, and way more comfortable than 918 which is the worst of the three in this department.
Well done Ferrari! If someone in the USA wants to sell theirs for $250K over lois them I'm interested in buying it! I suspect they'd want way more however so I'm not holding my breath
Absolutely stunning car! I can't wait to drive it!
The pictures:
1. Cockpit camera as part of the telemetry package. Another camera looks is mounted beside the rain sensor looking out the front window. Both trimmed in carbon fiber!
2. The resolution and clarity on the displays is stunning. This picture doesn't do them justice. You can choose from 4 colors (red, white, yellow and black) for the tach color. Very cool!
3. According to the dealer the first button is the "silent start" button. Some speculated the LaFerrari could not be driven in electric only mode but that is in fact what this button does. The dealer says you'd get about a mile before the engine came on but that's fine for moving the car around a garage or out of pit lane.
4. My son posed for a picture. Even with the pedal box and steering wheel all the way out he's still too small (10 years old) to drive one
Ok, let's talk LaFerrari now...
I spent some time with a LaFerrari yesterday. I tried to buy one but was rejected (not enough history with Ferrari despite being on my third one). I never looked at the P1 as a consolation prize (I had ordered it well before I had submitted my LaFerrari request) and never felt horrible about not being able to get one. But boy do I want a LaFerrari now after finally getting to sit inside one. What a car!!!
The LaFerrari is an insanely comfortable car! I didn't get to drive it but I did get to sit in the one I'm going to get to drive at some point (he'll drive my P1 as well and we'll both also share keys & track with a 918 owner that day) and I was astounded how comfortable the seats and driving position were. After fifteen minutes inside that car I want one so badly. I know my piddly little $250K over what the owner paid isn't going to get me one however but if someone would take that offer I'd do it in a heartbeat.
Plus forget about the idea that Porsche is somehow winning in luxury - they're not. The LaFerrari kicks the crap out of the 918 and P1 in terms of luxury appointments. It's got all the gadgets: backup camera, satellite radio, height/reach adjustable wheel, adjustable pedal box, most comfortable seat of the 3, most beautiful use of materials (alcantara and carbon fiber) and this has the built in track package with 2 cameras (cockpit and forward-looking). It's also WAY easier to get in and out of than the 918 or P1. Cutting away some of the roof with the doors (not the first time Ferrari has done this) was genius. McLaren should have done that with the P1.
But despite feeling very luxurious it also felt very performance-purposeful (like the P1 does) in its interior layout and design. Everything you need falls right to fingers and there's no superfluous touch screens and unnecessary trim. By comparison the P1 interior feels spartan (more like a race car) and the 918 feels overdone and plasticky (like a 911). Ferrari seems to have gotten it just right.
The fonts and displays were really well done. Ferrari is killing it in these areas lately which isn't something I would have ever thought they'd do after seeing how user-unfriendly the 430 was. The 458 (I own one) is way better than the 430 was but the LaFerrari just cleans everything up a little more to the point of getting it all just right. The digital dash is extremely well done - way nicer than Porsche or McLaren's. Although LaFerrari uses gloss-finish carbon fiber everywhere it still feels purposeful rather than ornate.
Despite the seats being screwed to the chassis they still felt perfectly supportive and the driving position & outward visibility are miles better than 918 although not quite a good as P1. But the seats are more road-car comfortable than P1, although probably less supportive on track, and way more comfortable than 918 which is the worst of the three in this department.
Well done Ferrari! If someone in the USA wants to sell theirs for $250K over lois them I'm interested in buying it! I suspect they'd want way more however so I'm not holding my breath
Absolutely stunning car! I can't wait to drive it!
The pictures:
1. Cockpit camera as part of the telemetry package. Another camera looks is mounted beside the rain sensor looking out the front window. Both trimmed in carbon fiber!
2. The resolution and clarity on the displays is stunning. This picture doesn't do them justice. You can choose from 4 colors (red, white, yellow and black) for the tach color. Very cool!
3. According to the dealer the first button is the "silent start" button. Some speculated the LaFerrari could not be driven in electric only mode but that is in fact what this button does. The dealer says you'd get about a mile before the engine came on but that's fine for moving the car around a garage or out of pit lane.
4. My son posed for a picture. Even with the pedal box and steering wheel all the way out he's still too small (10 years old) to drive one
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I decided to ask him how was the nav screen map in-comparison to the 458 and this is what he said:
Yes the display itself appears to be higher resolution and the map seems to show more detail and resolution as well. Text on the nav is cleaner and easier to read and the graphics seem more detailed. It feels like a nice upgrade from the 458. Likewise they had a California T and it's new infotainment system/nav feels like an upgrade over the previous one and the one in my FF.
Yes the display itself appears to be higher resolution and the map seems to show more detail and resolution as well. Text on the nav is cleaner and easier to read and the graphics seem more detailed. It feels like a nice upgrade from the 458. Likewise they had a California T and it's new infotainment system/nav feels like an upgrade over the previous one and the one in my FF.
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Here goes some more:
As a Ferrari owner I was hugely curious about where each button and function is and what was added or missing from the 458 to the LaFerrari. For example, the joypad and buttons for the left display are on the door panel and the right panel buttons are on the dash beside the AC controls. Likewise LaFerrari has the same back-of-wheel rocker switches for media control as the 458. I can also report that the stereo in the LaFerrari sounds awesome - better than the stereo in my 458 and I have the factory upgraded stereo option. The backup camera image is also larger, and clearer, than it is in the 458 and rectangular now instead of square.
These are all little things I learned that make me really want a LaFerrari because it really feels like a luxury race car.
As a Ferrari owner I was hugely curious about where each button and function is and what was added or missing from the 458 to the LaFerrari. For example, the joypad and buttons for the left display are on the door panel and the right panel buttons are on the dash beside the AC controls. Likewise LaFerrari has the same back-of-wheel rocker switches for media control as the 458. I can also report that the stereo in the LaFerrari sounds awesome - better than the stereo in my 458 and I have the factory upgraded stereo option. The backup camera image is also larger, and clearer, than it is in the 458 and rectangular now instead of square.
These are all little things I learned that make me really want a LaFerrari because it really feels like a luxury race car.
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Investigating the matter at the car’s Abu Dhabi unveiling Road & Track determined that the track-only FXX K retails for $2.7 million.
The entire run of 32 cars is already sold out, which is pretty impressive considering that the bonkers FXX K can’t be registered for road use, and isn’t eligible to compete in any established racing series."
Investigating the matter at the car’s Abu Dhabi unveiling Road & Track determined that the track-only FXX K retails for $2.7 million.
The entire run of 32 cars is already sold out, which is pretty impressive considering that the bonkers FXX K can’t be registered for road use, and isn’t eligible to compete in any established racing series."
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11 facts about the ridiculous Ferrari FXX K
1. The speed is relentless.
Ferrari claims the FXX K laps its 1.862-mile Fiorano test circuit in 1 minute, 14 seconds. That's five seconds quicker than a LaFerrari. We asked what a LaFerrari on slicks might do, and Ferrari product marketing director Nicola Boari suggests that gumballs would be good for perhaps a second. The other four ticks are due to the extreme aero mods and additional power. Michael Simari.
2. The power is obscene.
The FXX K's naturally aspirated V-12 makes 848 horsepower, while 187 electric ponies arrive courtesy of Ferrari's HY-KERS kinetic-energy recovery system. Total system output is 1036 horses. That's 86 more than the 950-hp LaFerrari, previously the most powerful car Maranello had fobbed off on semi-average Giuseppes. The K in the name, rationally enough, stands for "KERS".
3. It's sold out.
Forty examples are in the pipe. All are spoken for. Which means you're out of luck unless somebody decides to sell.
4. It has two steering-wheel-mounted manettinos.
The now-traditional steering-wheel "manettino" knob controls the chassis and throttle response, while the console-mounted KERS knob controls regeneration and output. The four-position switch's most aggressive regenerative setting can recharge the system in less than one lap.
5. Ferrari considers the FXX K its own model—not a version of the LaFerrari.
After spending time around it, we'll buy their assertion. To our eye, the K actually seems like what we wish the LaFerrari had been. It makes the Enzo-based FXX look like a crude hack-job—and the 599 variant look like somebody paraded his steed through a Pep Boys at hot-glue gunpoint. With its unique LED headlamps and more-aggressive front/rear fascias, this XX has a look all its own. For something so festooned with vents, scoops, and winglets, the K actually has a rather clean, cohesive look.
6. It sounds like Jah's own holy helldiver.
During our time at Yas Marina, we heard Ferrari Challenge cars, V-8 and V-10 F1 machines, GT-class 458s, and all manner of roadgoing Ferraris lapping the circuits. The XX cars, with their uncorked V-12s, echoed off the walls of the Viceroy hotel in as mean and thrilling a manner as anything we heard that weekend. You want Maximum Ferrari? This thing will give you all the Ferrari you can shake a bundle of gilded sticks at.
7. You can re-up after two years, but Ferrari is mum on the cost.
Once you're done with your initial two years of racing support, Ferrari will extend the plan for a fee. At the moment, it has yet to decide on the amount of said fee. Product marketing director Boari notes that instead of the two events per season included in the previous program, "We've increased the number of events this time. It's around eight. It's the first time we're offering two full seasons in the price."
8. It will hit tracks in mid-2015.
The first race will be in late spring, "Around May," says Boari. Ferrari expects 10 to 15 FXX Ks to be ready to participate in the event.
9. Go the relic route.
You can buy a used FXX or 599XX and step into the program that way. Ferrari sees it as a way to dip a toe into the water and see if the XX series is something owners would like to pursue. Maranello will helpfully connect prospective buyers and sellers. Ferrari
10. It makes more than half a ton of downforce—selectively.
Speaking of the car's aero, Boari points out, "This car has an aerodynamic efficiency of 2.84. A Formula 1 car is 3." It is said to create nearly 1200 pounds of downforce at 124 mph. Active aero means the car applies only as much as is needed to keep the car stuck to the track. A rear spoiler rises to meet the winglets mounted on vertical stabilizers.
11. There likely will be an FXX K Evo.
"History tells that after two years, we are ready to do something else," Boari explains. The 599, you might remember, arrived after the Enzo, containing much of the knowledge the company had gleaned during the hypercar's development—and it carried a variant of the Enzo's motor between its front fenders. The LaFerrari is so far beyond the F12berlinetta, we can only assume that Maranello is planning an even more extreme version of its flagship supercar, rather than an F12-based XX. Dang.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/g5927/ferrari-fxx-k-11-facts/?slide=12
1. The speed is relentless.
Ferrari claims the FXX K laps its 1.862-mile Fiorano test circuit in 1 minute, 14 seconds. That's five seconds quicker than a LaFerrari. We asked what a LaFerrari on slicks might do, and Ferrari product marketing director Nicola Boari suggests that gumballs would be good for perhaps a second. The other four ticks are due to the extreme aero mods and additional power. Michael Simari.
2. The power is obscene.
The FXX K's naturally aspirated V-12 makes 848 horsepower, while 187 electric ponies arrive courtesy of Ferrari's HY-KERS kinetic-energy recovery system. Total system output is 1036 horses. That's 86 more than the 950-hp LaFerrari, previously the most powerful car Maranello had fobbed off on semi-average Giuseppes. The K in the name, rationally enough, stands for "KERS".
3. It's sold out.
Forty examples are in the pipe. All are spoken for. Which means you're out of luck unless somebody decides to sell.
4. It has two steering-wheel-mounted manettinos.
The now-traditional steering-wheel "manettino" knob controls the chassis and throttle response, while the console-mounted KERS knob controls regeneration and output. The four-position switch's most aggressive regenerative setting can recharge the system in less than one lap.
5. Ferrari considers the FXX K its own model—not a version of the LaFerrari.
After spending time around it, we'll buy their assertion. To our eye, the K actually seems like what we wish the LaFerrari had been. It makes the Enzo-based FXX look like a crude hack-job—and the 599 variant look like somebody paraded his steed through a Pep Boys at hot-glue gunpoint. With its unique LED headlamps and more-aggressive front/rear fascias, this XX has a look all its own. For something so festooned with vents, scoops, and winglets, the K actually has a rather clean, cohesive look.
6. It sounds like Jah's own holy helldiver.
During our time at Yas Marina, we heard Ferrari Challenge cars, V-8 and V-10 F1 machines, GT-class 458s, and all manner of roadgoing Ferraris lapping the circuits. The XX cars, with their uncorked V-12s, echoed off the walls of the Viceroy hotel in as mean and thrilling a manner as anything we heard that weekend. You want Maximum Ferrari? This thing will give you all the Ferrari you can shake a bundle of gilded sticks at.
7. You can re-up after two years, but Ferrari is mum on the cost.
Once you're done with your initial two years of racing support, Ferrari will extend the plan for a fee. At the moment, it has yet to decide on the amount of said fee. Product marketing director Boari notes that instead of the two events per season included in the previous program, "We've increased the number of events this time. It's around eight. It's the first time we're offering two full seasons in the price."
8. It will hit tracks in mid-2015.
The first race will be in late spring, "Around May," says Boari. Ferrari expects 10 to 15 FXX Ks to be ready to participate in the event.
9. Go the relic route.
You can buy a used FXX or 599XX and step into the program that way. Ferrari sees it as a way to dip a toe into the water and see if the XX series is something owners would like to pursue. Maranello will helpfully connect prospective buyers and sellers. Ferrari
10. It makes more than half a ton of downforce—selectively.
Speaking of the car's aero, Boari points out, "This car has an aerodynamic efficiency of 2.84. A Formula 1 car is 3." It is said to create nearly 1200 pounds of downforce at 124 mph. Active aero means the car applies only as much as is needed to keep the car stuck to the track. A rear spoiler rises to meet the winglets mounted on vertical stabilizers.
11. There likely will be an FXX K Evo.
"History tells that after two years, we are ready to do something else," Boari explains. The 599, you might remember, arrived after the Enzo, containing much of the knowledge the company had gleaned during the hypercar's development—and it carried a variant of the Enzo's motor between its front fenders. The LaFerrari is so far beyond the F12berlinetta, we can only assume that Maranello is planning an even more extreme version of its flagship supercar, rather than an F12-based XX. Dang.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/news/g5927/ferrari-fxx-k-11-facts/?slide=12
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That FXX K Evo is an awesome car, LaFerrari is really amazing but this car is something different altogether. 1036 HP and 5sec faster around Fiorana is incredible. I wonder how fast this car will be from 0-300km/h, if LaFerrari is claimed to do it in 15sec then this car must do it in at least 14sec or less.
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Ferrari
Ferrari S.p.A. is an Italian luxury sports car manufacturer based in
Maranello, Italy. Founded in 1939 by Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988), the company
built its first car in 1940, adopted its current name in 1945, and began
to produce its current line of road cars in 1947. Ferrari became a public
company in 1960, and from 1963 to 2014 it was a subsidiary of Fiat S.p.A.
It was spun off from Fiat's successor entity, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, in 2016.
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