LaFerrari [Official] Ferrari LaFerrari

[Monster]

Where did I say it was a proof of CF wheels being better than other wheels?
That is why I say "properly designed". Cheap CF body parts are heavier than aluminium body parts. What does that prove?

The company who designed and manufactured such components are scamming people and risking people's lives.

 

[Mafalda]

LaFerrari uses teh best material possible. If rims are aluminium and NO-CF, there'd be an answer
...I think Koenisseg claim "we've CF rims" just to say "we've something better about LaFe / P1 / 918"

 

[Levi68]

LaFerrari uses teh best material possible. If rims are aluminium and NO-CF, there'd be an answer
...I think Koenisseg claim "we've CF rims" just to say "we've something better about LaFe / P1 / 918"

And "our car is faster"? I don't think they made it for that reason. Koenigsegg and Pagani don't care about such things like BMW does. Nor does Ferrari, and I doubt McLaren does.

 

[Monster]

Guys...internal combustion thread...............

 

[Deckhook]

When I compare this and the new generation of hypercars to the Bugatti I instantly think of the Bug as an ultra quick 2 seater GT and that's not only because of its weight.

Its going to be really interesting when all these ultra hyper cars finally meet on the track.

 

[Levi68]

In these pics you can see bad quality. I wonder if Italian cloths/fashion are the same as Italian cars.

 

[Monster]

In these pics you can see bad quality. I wonder if Italian cloths/fashion are the same as Italian cars.

Bad quality as in the choice of material? Fit and finish?

 

[klier]

In these pics you can see bad quality. I wonder if Italian cloths/fashion are the same as Italian cars.

Bad quality where? Give us an example!

Also, never worn any Italian designer stuff? High quality buddy!!

 

[Deckhook]

In these pics you can see bad quality. I wonder if Italian cloths/fashion are the same as Italian cars.

Where is it? I looked at every picture here and all I see is incredible craftsmanship.

 

[Levi68]

I take back my words. I looked at other pics, they were ok. But interior plastic controls still are cheap plastic.

 

[Monster]

I take back my words. I looked at other pics, they were ok. But interior plastic controls still are cheap plastic.

This is a different type of car from the Pagani. This Ferrari, along with the Mclaren P1 are the ultimate performance cars, all the development funding has gone to make these the most technically advanced, best handling and the fastest cars they can possible make while things like the material used for the buttons aren't so important. The Mclaren P1 even do without gloss carbon finish for the interior trim to save 1 or 2kg. To criticize LaFerrari as a bad quality car because of the use of plastic buttons are missing the point entirely. Have you gone through the pages and pages of technical info? Go and have a read and tell me if this is still a 'bad quality' car when you have finished reading.

 

[Levi68]

This is a different type of car from the Pagani. This Ferrari, along with the Mclaren P1 are the ultimate performance cars, all the development funding has gone to make these the most technically advanced, best handling and the fastest cars they can possible make while things like the material used for the buttons aren't so important. The Mclaren P1 even do without gloss carbon finish for the interior trim to save 1 or 2kg. To criticize LaFerrari as a bad quality car because of the use of plastic buttons are missing the point entirely. Have you gone through the pages and pages of technical info? Go and have a read and tell me if this is still a 'bad quality' car when you have finished reading.

Yes I have. I know the quality of plastic is irrelevant for such type of car, but it translates from the rest of FIAT. Maserati has good quality leather, wood and CF but the fit and finish so as the quality of plastic isn't there. If it would be there the LaFerrari, so as all other would also have this improved quality.

 

[Bridster]

This is a different type of car from the Pagani. This Ferrari, along with the Mclaren P1 are the ultimate performance cars, all the development funding has gone to make these the most technically advanced, best handling and the fastest cars they can possible make while things like the material used for the buttons aren't so important. The Mclaren P1 even do without gloss carbon finish for the interior trim to save 1 or 2kg. To criticize LaFerrari as a bad quality car because of the use of plastic buttons are missing the point entirely. Have you gone through the pages and pages of technical info? Go and have a read and tell me if this is still a 'bad quality' car when you have finished reading.

At what point is the performance goal ultimate enough so that you can stop caring about parts of the car not directly linked to it? The truth is that unless, in the future, on your way to work you will have the option of entering a timed rally stage and after its completion you will have received some measurable benefit depending on how fast you went, performance in a road car will always be only secondary to making a car that is as appealing as possible, or - to put it another way - a car that people are willing to spend the most money on. And, in fact, the actual performance of a car becomes almost completely irrelevant after its perceived performance reached its peak and to convince oneself otherwise and to concentrate on performance even more and think it will compensate for you not improving other areas is an utter folly.

 

[Monster]

At what point is the performance goal ultimate enough so that you can stop caring about parts of the car not directly linked to it? The truth is that unless, in the future, on your way to work you will have the option of entering a timed rally stage and after its completion you will have received some measurable benefit depending on how fast you went, performance in a road car will always be only secondary to making a car that is as appealing as possible, or - to put it another way - a car that people are willing to spend the most money on. And, in fact, the actual performance of a car becomes almost completely irrelevant after its perceived performance reached its peak and to convince oneself otherwise and to concentrate on performance even more and think it will compensate for you not improving other areas is an utter folly.

All 499 LaFerraris have been sold, so I guess this is the point where people don't pay as much attention to these minor parts. For these customers all it matters is to them is the driving experience, it has been the case for the F40, F50, and the Enzo. Of course there are others who agree with you and for them they will go for the Pagani Huayra.

 

[Human]

I take back my words. I looked at other pics, they were ok. But interior plastic controls still are cheap plastic.

@klier Bad quality where? Give us an example!
Also, never worn any Italian designer stuff? High quality buddy!!

IMO we have not (maybe will never-whats the chance?) see, feel, touch, lick etc. that cabin. That said by what we have and can see here it does not look anyway near $1 Million. We are now getting used to Pagani's perfection and attention to detail. And if Ferrari told us that they used the (respect) F40's cabin for inspiration, fine. Yet as much as a masterpiece of a stunningly beautiful car it is, I can 100% understand why the cockpit polarize opinion. Does NOT look Pagani, Veyron, LFA etc. Sorry but bare CF and cheap looking switchgear just does not 'cut' it for me anymore. Not at this price that demands absolute perfection.

My 1 cent

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

You know, I agree. Their purpose was to make it look purposeful and austere, but that effect can be created using more premium switchgear. By no means would I want it looking as steampunk as Huayra, but I would want the tactile controls to be bespoke and commanding of that price.

 

[Deckhook]

I can see it from both sides here, if you are expecting Pagani/Bugatti interiors then you will be disappointed which was why I made the comment of Veyron = ultra quick GT but this car was never designed with the intention of pampering its passengers, its been design to overload the senses. If you look at an F1 car closely you will be amazing how crude it is simply because its designed for performance and that's it.

Well in my opinion the LaFerrari is Ferrari's take on a road going F1 car and it has the same attention to detail.

 

[Levi68]

I can see it from both sides here, if you are expecting Pagani/Bugatti interiors then you will be disappointed which was why I made the comment of Veyron = ultra quick GT but this car was never designed with the intention of pampering its passengers, its been design to overload the senses. If you look at an F1 car closely you will be amazing how crude it is simply because its designed for performance and that's it.

Well in my opinion the LaFerrari is Ferrari's take on a road going F1 car and it has the same attention to detail.

Not true. Its purpose has nothing to do with its crudity. It is not a race car, however fast or potent it is.

BAC Mono is the closest thing to a race car, and such interior is fine:

The Aston Martin CC100 is a concept, but with similar role as the LaFerrari, yet its interior is bespoke and will crude does not look cheap.

I disagree, small details play a huge roll. Think of dressing.

 

[klier]

You know, I agree. Their purpose was to make it look purposeful and austere, but that effect can be created using more premium switchgear. By no means would I want it looking as steampunk as Huayra, but I would want the tactile controls to be bespoke and commanding of that price.

Ok, I agree as well. As long as it doesn't look as a Huayra, there is no taste whatsoever there.

 

[Human]

Ok, I agree as well. As long as it doesn't look as a Huayra, there is no taste whatsoever there.

Ditto then. For as perfect the Hyuara's cabin is, will look odd fitted in the LaFerarri, will look gross actually.