Cadillac Escalade [Official] Cadillac Escalade

[Merc1]

Ure very funny because you're the dumbest user here. U di...

I know it's hard for you here representing a loser brand like Cadillac, but you really should try to harder to actually think before you post. The only dummy around here is you. Just love how it gets personal when you can't come up with anything else. You actually think that by pointing out that the Blackwing budget was more than 16M is a good thing when the engine is dead? Talk about being DAF. You only proved what a bunch of idiots GM's top people are. Yeah the Escalade got a great interior, WOW, you want a congrats for something it should have had years ago? GM Lifers are all alike, dopey because GM finally does something others have been doing for years, i.e. a world class interior. Now you think it's some big achievement. This is what happens the bar is set an inch off the ground, jokingly LOW.

You let me know when they actually use the blackwing V8 in another Cadillac vehicle and not just the name. Like I said you're delusional. Keep thinking that Cadillac isn't DEAD when it comes to ICE passenger cars. Their only hope is electric at this point and that is years off from total acceptance.

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[Abbat]

That really looks good



Apparently this is no...

VSS-R will be ready in 2021 for the I.C.E. models.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

...I've asked my friend about this article. He works for Cadi...

Would you care to comment on your friends' position or the department for which he works ?

 

[Abbat]

Would you care to comment on your friends' position or the...

Design studio.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

To quote Ron Burgundy, that escalated (escaladed? Nah) quickly.

I do remember the Blackwing family engine development was something insane. Like high 9 figures insane. I figure this was going to be spread over various Caddies as well as the 5.5L TT an NA V8 purported to be in upper trim Corvettes.

Btw, thanks for the laughs, fellas. , indeed.

 

[Abbat]

To quote Ron Burgundy, that escalated (escaladed...

There is only guy here between me and hmmm.. it

And it will once the VSS-R is ready.

Some of the C8 top models will also be based on the blackwing engine platform.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

To quote Ron Burgundy, that escalated (escaladed...

Talking about expenditures required by manufacturers when developing and marketing a new product:

I recall having read an article in which it was maintained that FoMoCo spent over the equivalent of US$ 1 bio. (early 1970s' US $1 bio) in order to bring its' series I Ford Fiesta to market. A very small, utilitarian, rudimentary car. Hence 9-figures in 2013-ish (?) coin for the development of a new engine family would seem quite plausible methinks. Then again...nowadays...putting out that much cash for the development of a new ICE engine would not appear very...prudent...to me.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Talking about expenditures required by manufacturers when d...

True, as I understand the Blackwing V8 was a ground-up new design. In relations to the times where downsizing is (was? what with Euro7) the name of the game and even M-B and BMW are shying away from V8's, I thought that was a princely investment.

I skimmed through the info regarding the modular VSS architecture and their derivatives. Interesting stuff. That said, I thought both the outgoing Alpha and Omega platforms had the ability to form the underpinnings for high-riding (CUVs, SUVs, etc.) vehicles.

 

[martinbo]

WTF just happened in this thread?!?

Well, that's going to end badly for someone.

@Abbat - you did make considerable claims that the new Escalade would have more than just a world-class interior - you were going on like it was going to leave the Germans for dust, like aye, the best thing ever.
In actuality it did turn out nice but better than the Germans' - not a chance. The switchgear in particular is hotch-potch with mismatched buttons all over the place. The screens and their UIs are nothing groundbreaking either. Hardly the stuff of legend.

 

[Abbat]

WTF just happened in this thread?!?

Well, tha...

It looks better than GLS/X7 to me.

^I dont think this is a better interior. The way that screen stands there... It looks cheap.
And I think Escalade's dash has outclassed them both X7/GLS inside. So I was right.
But this is a GCF. Lots of fan boys here. At the end of the day, to each his own..

This shifter could have been better, agree. But even with this shifter the dash looks 2 times better than the X7's GLS taken all together. What else did you expect?

As for that COWARD, well I did start it.
Thats about it, I dont want to talk about that BITCH anymore. I dont respect cowards...

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

The switchgear in particular is hotch-potch with mismatched buttons all over the place. The screens and their UIs are nothing groundbreaking either. Hardly the stuff of legend.

I think the screen does exceed what the Germans are currently offering. The UI? Can't speak for that and it's probably difficult but not impossible to exceed what Audi as well as M-B and BMW offer. They've really continued to evolve their UIs. That Zebrano wood trim looks lovely as do the other wood trims they offer. Can't tell the quality regarding leather but that ought not be difficult to be at least on par with the Germans. The only switchgear that looks premium are those for the HVAC, otherwise it's the usual GM plastic fare...which isn't good. The actual dash design looks quite engaging with interesting lines and not nowhere as utilitarian or generic as the other GMT brethrens past or current. My sentiment is that this ought to have been the CT6's interior from day one.

Now the exterior.... yeah, they are limited by the GMT platform, but it does nothing for me from the pics. Perhaps, in person... I can see it aging better due to its more muted, understated looks. Time will tell.

All in all, this is a VAST improvement on Cadillac's part, and considering what GM's culture has been as exemplified with even their more recent efforts, it's something they should be proud of. Hopefully this and the Corvette's interior are examples of things to come and not the exception.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Increasing dissonances between countries that are home to major players in the automotive field do not bode well for the industry in general and may be especially detrimental to U.S.-based legacy manufacturers-and most of all GM. The distance of terrain that Cadillac must cover in order to merely "catch-up" to the Germans, the South Koreans, the Chinese and Tesla is massive. And in todays' political environment, appears a task quite unattainable.

 

[J.E]

Cadillac is bigger in China than in the USA. Speaking of China, they are one of the main reasons why GM didn't close Buick back in 2009, because Buick was and still is huge in China.

 

[Rolf]

The interior looks decent, certainly the best on any Cadillac, but its not as good as the Germans. The quality of the switches on the steering wheel, the column stalks and the center consoles switches look cheapish. The dominant star feature of the interior is the 2 huge screens for the instruments and infotainment. Space and seats also look good. I like the unusual speakers on the front headrests.

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[CrunchSlaughtered]

The interior looks decent, certainly the best on any Cadill...

I get some Seville from the early 90s vibes, when looking at this dashboard.

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

I get some Seville from the early 90s vibes, w...

I think it's that Zebrano wood. It was used in the Seville/STS, and I think it was also used in W124 Benzes in the late 1980's and 1990's. I've always liked the distinctive graining.

Regarding Cadillac's and Buick's appeal in China in recent years, I wonder how sustainable that'll be considering the chillier relations that exist due to more immediate recent events and dialogue.
EDIT: Also I am sure more home-grown brands that are growing in cachet and with a focus on electric mobility, like LUCID, will eat away at these two brands' as well as other foreign makers' market share.

 

[sako97]

So John Galt gets banned again? He’ll be back under a new pseudonym next week.

 

[Rolf]

So John Galt gets banned again? He’ll be back under a n...

LOL He would be the only guy who would say the Cadillac interiors are better than a Rolls interior.

 

[Deleted member 1071]

Ach so...

I suspected that Abbat was John Galt, but wasn't quite sure. Abbat appeared far more acerbic. John Galt never struck me as being hostile under criticism or mockery. But this Abbat person really appeared to "lose it" recently. Nothing is more ridiculously juvenile than "tough guy talk" on the internet. In any case-I suspect that neither John Galt nor Abbat are adults. Late teens perhaps ?

 

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