X6 Official: BMW X6

[EnI]

It is obvious to me that both the N54 and N64 are detuned, or would I say pegged at their current rating.

Under the new engine coding system N54 engine is badged (it was rebadged):

N54 B30 U0

(and I expect V8 bi-turbo is coded N64 B44 U0, or N64 B44 M0).


U0

The letter tells us the power output. K = lowest power output, U = low power output, M = moderate power output, O = high power output, T = highest power output.
The number tells us the version. 0 = initial version 1 = first upgrade, 2 = second upgrade, 3 = ...).


B30

The letter tells us the type of energy source engine is using. B = gasoline, D = diesel, E = electricity, G = natural gas, H = hydrogen.

The 2-digit number tells us the displacement of the engine. 30 = 3.0L, 25 = 2.5L , 20 = 2.0L, 44 = 4.4L, 48 = 4.8L, etc.


N54

The letter tells us the generation of the engine. Eg. N = new generation, M = previous generation, S = sports generation.

The first number is a code telling us the number of cylinders. 4=4cyl, 5=6cyl, 6=8cyl, 7=12cyl, 8=10cyl.

The second number tells use the tech engine is using. 0 = prototype, 1 = SULEV/PZEV configuration , 2 = double VANOS + Valvetronic, 3 = Direct Injection Naturally Aspirated, 4 = Direct Injection Turbocharged, 5 = Double VANOS w/o Valvetronic, 7 = diesel engine turbocharged.




So, N54 B30 U0 tells us the current version (135i, 335i, 535i, 635i, X6 35i etc) is the lowest power output version!!!

 

[Centurion]

The Xdrive badge marks that BMW want to market their 4 wheel drive system as something special like Quattro.

 

[klier]

Karma for that, Eni
That was some SERIOUS useful info.

Luw, xDrive being BMW's quattro...I think you're spot on!

Edit; hmmm can't give Karma to you right now. I'll remember

 

[milorg]

Back seats, an issue for anyone other than me?

On the 1 series you can select 2+2 configuration by adding similar styled backseat cup holder\mid portion. I am seriously hoping that the pictures we see are representing just one of two backseat configurations, the other alternative seating potentially 3.

If this car is only going to be possible to drive as a 2+2, I will have no option as to pull my existing X6 35d order and place an order on a X5 instead, what a shame after waiting so long.

For those of you that know "whats comming soon" when will we see Xdrive on the X5 as an alternative to order the X6? will the X5 be possible to order with "full leather dash" as seen on pictures of the Xdrive50?

Another issue I am struggeling with is not being able to order nightvision on either the x6 or x5, its optional on the 7,6 and 5 series.. shud be optional on the X series as well. (I am talking European Spec here dunno what you guys stateside got as options on em)




Brgds

Milorg

 

[south]

Under the new engine coding system N54 engine is badged (it was rebadged):

N54 B30 U0

Do you know why it was rebadged? For the 335 it still says: N54 B30 O0...
Is it still the same engine?


Best regards, south

 

[EnI]

Do you know why it was rebadged? For the 335 it still says: N54 B30 O0...
Is it still the same engine?


Best regards, south

All E82 / E88 technical data sheets I got show the new code already: N54 B30 U0. It's the same engine, only rebadged.

Why rebadging? Because this 306PS version is set as the version with the lowest input. Mind that the more powerful editions are coming (eg 135tii etc). And rebadging the 306PS version to the "lowest power output" version tells us BMW are planing some serious power upgrades in the future ("M", "O", and "T" versions are still possible!).

 

[EMpower]

A direct conversion is always misleading, you can be rest assured it will be priced probably $3K more than the X5

I agree. The difference in price between X5 and X6 will be similar to difference in price between 5-series and 6-series.

 

[bmer]

I was thinking about the xDrive badge. The new engine is 4.4-liter but it's replacing the 4.8-liter one and will most likely have the x50i-designation (550i, 650i, 750i). If the X6 models were named using the traditional method the 4.4 V8 TT would have been X6 4.4Si (with the capital "S"). For customers it might have been difficult to comprehend that 4.4Si uses the same engine as the (future) 550i/650i/750i. That could be one of the reasons why they chose this a bit awkward xDrive50i designation. This also partly explains why BMW has been registering those [enter any letter here]Drive names.

I'm expecting the X5 and X3 soon to follow with the new naming policy. Maybe they have a similar thing for the Z4 as well, "Z4 sDrive30i" or something like that...

I must say that personally I would have prefered the 4.4Si designation.

 

[Centurion]

Back seats, an issue for anyone other than me?

On the 1 series you can select 2+2 configuration by adding similar styled backseat cup holder\mid portion. I am seriously hoping that the pictures we see are representing just one of two backseat configurations, the other alternative seating potentially 3.

If this car is only going to be possible to drive as a 2+2, I will have no option as to pull my existing X6 35d order and place an order on a X5 instead, what a shame after waiting so long.

For those of you that know "whats comming soon" when will we see Xdrive on the X5 as an alternative to order the X6? will the X5 be possible to order with "full leather dash" as seen on pictures of the Xdrive50?

Another issue I am struggeling with is not being able to order nightvision on either the x6 or x5, its optional on the 7,6 and 5 series.. shud be optional on the X series as well. (I am talking European Spec here dunno what you guys stateside got as options on em)




Brgds

Milorg

Thanks for mentioning the full leather dash, I hadn't noticed it. It's great for those who want to cover every bit possible in their car with beige leather.
From the information which has surfaced so far the rear row will strictly be a 2 seater with no other option, quite disappointing.

 

[EnI]

From the information which has surfaced so far the rear row will strictly be a 2 seater with no other option, quite disappointing.

With 4 seats only BMW prevents massive cross-shopping between X5 & X6. Strict coupe nature differentiates X6 from X5.

Guys ... You are forgetting here we are talking about coupe with SAV genes here. So, it's an all-purpose coupe, not a compromised SAV.

Yet ... perhaps the 3rd backseat will be offered later. BMW are known to introduce new features and/or options gradually.

 

[Centurion]

Guys ... You are forgetting here we are talking about coupe with SAV genes here. So, it's an all-purpose coupe, not a compromised SAV.

It's more like the opposite, an SUV with coupe genes.The X6 has more attributes in common with the X5 than the 6er like weight, dimensions, AWD and design.


If BMW would have wanted to distinguish the seating properly they should have made the X6 a proper 2+2 like the Volvo C30. You know, go all the way, because there is nothing cool or special about the back row as it looks now. It's neither cool nor function.

 

[bmer]

I don't see much sense in offering the X6 with a 3-place rear seat. It's designed to carry 4 people with good comfort despite the sleek roofline which takes away a lot of head space compared to the X5. Still, adding a 3rd place would probably spoil the travelling comfort for everybody on the rear seat.

If BMW would have wanted to distinguish the seating properly they should have made the X6 a proper 2+2 like the Volvo C30. You know, go all the way, because there is nothing cool or special about the back row as it looks now. It's neither cool nor function.

I agree. It should have had two separate seats in the back in the same style as the C30.

 

[chonkoa]

Under the new engine coding system N54 engine is badged (it was rebadged):

N54 B30 U0

(and I expect V8 bi-turbo is coded N64 B44 U0, or N64 B44 M0).


U0

The letter tells us the power output. U = the lowest power output, M = low power output, O = high power output, T = the highest power output.

The number tells us the version. 0 = initial version 1 = first upgrade, 2 = second upgrade, 3 = ...).


B30

The letter tells us the type of energy source engine is using. B = gasoline, D = diesel, E = electricity, G = natural gas, H = hydrogen.

The 2-digit number tells us the displacement of the engine. 30 = 3.0L, 25 = 2.5L , 20 = 2.0L, 44 = 4.4L, 48 = 4.8L, etc.


N54

The letter tells us the generation of the engine. Eg. N = new generation, M = previous generation, S = sports generation.



The first number is a code telling us the number of cylinders. 4=4cyl, 5=6cyl, 6=8cyl, 7=12cyl, 8=10cyl.

The second number tells use the tech engine is using. 0 = prototype, 1 = SULEV/PZEV configuration , 2 = double VANOS + Valvetronic, 3 = Direct Injection Naturally Aspirated, 4 = Direct Injection Turbocharged, 5 = Double VANOS w/o Valvetronic, 7 = diesel engine turbocharged.




So, N54 B30 U0 tells us the current version (135i, 335i, 535i, 635i, X6 35i etc) is the lowest power output version!!!

Unless the N54 is relabelled, I think it was N54B30O1, and I reckon the ttV8 will be N64B44O1 although Scott had suggested it will be N64B44O0
The M designation generally denotes engines that were built 2001 and earlier.
The U actually denotes the lower class, whilst the O denotes the upper class non-m engines.

 

[milorg]

EnI, you think that BMW would offer this far down the timeline, or close to launch? I have allready sold my primary daily drive, holding an option to book a march delivery X6 35d, but as things look now I think I will be more popular with my two sons and wife if I go for the spacious solution (x5) as 7seater, rather than the x6 that only can transport the family without any sort of guests. I can opt for the x6 if its comming as 5 seater, because that is what we currently have (and it works) but seeing alot of probs with going for a pure 2+2

Also semi bearish to buy unseen\touched\tried and from first batch.

I understand the X6 doesn't offer M-Sport Package from start (jan08 prod) (I have my preorder spec'd with the Sport Package (non M)) another pointer for why I should opt for the X5 I like my car painted as whole not with contrasting plastic...

Now if only someone with inside info perhaps could reveal that at a certain date, I will be able to order X5 with Night Vision as option (driving alot in the Norwegian mountains in the winter, and wud like it for the safety of avoiding moose and people walking besides the road at night)

And that I cud get the full dynamic XDrive as option on the X5 (with torque gismo's at each wheel= Dynamic Performance Control) then the walking away from the preorder X6 wouldn't be so difficult...


Brgds

Milorg

 

[EnI]

Unless the N54 is relabelled, I think it was N54B30O1, and I reckon the ttV8 will be N64B44O1 although Scott had suggested it will be N64B44O0

N54 debuted as N54 B30 O0 (0 = debut, 1 = upgrade!), and was relabeled to N54 B30 U0.

N64 is coded N64 B44 ?0
I'll try to find out what the "?" is. I'm sure it's not "K" or "T" ... IMO it's either "U" or "M".



PS: I missed the K. The correct explanation is:
K = lowest power output, U = low power output, M = moderate power output, O = high power output, T = highest power output.

 

[Centurion]

Still, adding a 3rd place would probably spoil the travelling comfort for everybody on the rear seat.

Then I guess the X5, S-class, LS600h, RS4 and Jaguar XF all have spoiled comfort in the second row?

Not to whine but I just think that there should be an an option for those who want a traditional second row.

 

[mc_blue]

Then I guess the X5, S-class, LS600h, RS4 and Jaguar XF all have spoiled comfort in the second row?

Not to whine but I just think that there should be an an option for those who want a traditional second row.

Agreed they've missed a trick here IMO. The third seat should be an option because I can see this car appealing to current X5 owners who want something more exclusive. In the UK especially, it seems as though a lot of X5 owners have opted for the Range Rover Sport, which I feel is the X6's main competition. Don't give me the marketing garbage, the idea of Coupe SAV is flawed, this is a posers SUV, for the X5 owner who wants something that's even better on the road and will get the inevitable glances on the school run.

 

[Merc1]

Seriously though, one article reports that the top line is estimated to be about 44,000 GB pounds.

I did a currency conversion. And it can't be right.

It can't be right that the top line will be about 89,000 US dollars.

It can't be.

I can't get this thing if it's that much. A RR Supercharged starts at about 89-92,000 US dollars. I'll catch alot of fire if this (X6) is as much as that, b/c that (RR) has more space, and it is more practical.

It's just can't be right......can it?

You can't ever do a currency conversion to get the U.S. price. Price is set differently for each market.

M

 

[bmer]

Then I guess the X5, S-class, LS600h, RS4 and Jaguar XF all have spoiled comfort in the second row?

Not to whine but I just think that there should be an an option for those who want a traditional second row.

LOL Luw I said I agreed with you that the X6 should have got two separate seats. Now you want the traditional bench again?

I believe the X6 rear seat space is compromised because of the roofline. This would be due to the coupe philosophy meaning that with a coupe you put driving dynamics before interior space. To be worth the M-model (in BMW's eyes) X6 has to be much lower and have a lower point of gravity, hence a sleeker roofline. With the third passenger on the rear seat the outernmost passengers will have much less horizontal space and the middle passenger will be forced to more upright seating position where he/she is more likely to hit the roof with the top of his head. S-Class and LS as larger cars and without the sloping roofline don't have this problem. The X5 is there if you want more rear seat head space. The XF I can't comment on because I haven't sat in it but if it's anything similar to CLS, the rear seat will be uncomfortable for more than two passengers. The back seat of the RS4 is cramped for three full-grown adults just like in the most important competitors, 3er and C-Class.

 

[klier]

Thanks for mentioning the full leather dash, I hadn't noticed it. It's great for those who want to cover every bit possible in their car with beige leather.

Pay more attention, 'cause I already said that way back in post #39 j/k

You can see it in this pic here: