Valkyrie [Official] Aston Martin - From AM-RB 001 to Valkyrie

[bmwz4coupe]

It's not that they were wrong, it's that costs were too high for the new buyers of Aston Martin (i.e. Stroll).
I said it on here as well before: this project for me died when AM got in troubles and Red Bull (which are the real developers of this car, AM was just a placeholder for commercial purposes) got out of the overall AM-Red Bull partnership.



I agree with you about the 4G braking deceleration.
I am sorry, but I hardly believe that, especially if this is the supposedly "diluted" current Valkyrie that we are talking about, even more so on road legal tyres.

To give some numbers:

- The T50S - which will run Michelin slicks, will weight between 840 and 852 kg with fluids, has bespoke chassis and suspensions developed for track use and probably the most advanced ground effect aero solutions of any modern car - is said by Gordon Murray himself to pull up to 3.5 G under braking
- The Brabham BT62 - which is a full track/race car running on slicks, with a dry weight of 972 kg and with carbon-carbon brakes (such as those of F1 and LMP1 machines) - pulls 3.5 G under braking as well

So I find hard to believe those claims of 4G under braking from the supposedly current road legal version of the Valkyrie on road legal tyres (whichever they are, it should not matter in terms of grip if compared to slicks).

4G braking must be the racing version with racing tyres, even the AMG GT Black Series doesn’t reach more than 1,5 G when braking from 200 km/h, and this is one of the hardest braking cars on the market.

 

[Gamblerman]

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[Jo_Sta7]

Remember when people were excited for this car?

 

[hoffmeister_fan]

Remember when people were excited for this car?

Still am looking forward to it, but like with anything, with time the hype diminishes.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

Still am looking forward to it, but like with anything, with time the hype diminishes.

it’s been 5 years. It’s 2 years away.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

it’s been 5 years. It’s 2 years away.

2 years away? The last thing I heard was that it will be launched this year. Has it been delayed again?

 

[Jo_Sta7]

2 years away? The last thing I heard was that it will be launched this year. Has it been delayed again?

Launched next year as a 2023 model. The chip shortage will be used as a scape goat.

 

[A.P.]

Remember when people were excited for this car?

This car is still more exciting than whatever Mercedes is doing with AMG One.

It's also way closer than what you think.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

I am still excited for this car, but unfortunately it seems that Stroll has partly destroyed this Newey project, it seems it has become considerably heavier. I am also excited for the AMG One, and now it seems it will not be so much heavier than the Valkyrie after all...

 

[Jo_Sta7]

He didn’t destroy it. Newey isn’t a God. He can’t operate outside the realm of physics. The cars initial briefing was pixie dust. Fantasy land material. It was never going to weigh so little or pull so hard. Made people on the internet abuzz, though.

 

[Jo_Sta7]

This car is still more exciting than whatever Mercedes is doing with AMG One.

It's also way closer than what you think.

We’ll see. I’m bullish Aston Martin right now but not this car. And I’m bullish MB as well, but not the One. Too complicated. Too compromised.

 

[A.P.]

I guess in the end Toyota wins with their road legal Le Mans hypercar.

 

[Bridster]

I guess in the end Toyota wins with their road legal Le Mans hypercar.

Eh, I don't know about that. So far the hype for the Toyota car has been pretty much zero. And it has nothing to do with the Le Mans car except for it's been made to look somewhat similar. The underpinnings, the engine, transmissions and everything are different. It might have a stellar on track performance, but that's probably all it's gonna have. Looks very compromised as a road car right from the outset.

 

[Matski]

SCG007 is so far the only one of the lot that interests me as both a road and race car.

 

[KiwiRob]

Eh, I don't know about that. So far the hype for the Toyota car has been pretty much zero. And it has nothing to do with the Le Mans car except for it's been made to look somewhat similar. The underpinnings, the engine, transmissions and everything are different. It might have a stellar on track performance, but that's probably all it's gonna have. Looks very compromised as a road car right from the outset.

Reports claims the production version will pack a 2.4-liter, twin-turbo V6 "Competition" engine and three electric motors producing around 1,400 hp combined, sounds pretty exciting to me if correct.

 

[WBarnes]

Reports claims the production version will pack a 2.4-liter, twin-turbo V6 "Competition" engine and three electric motors producing around 1,400 hp combined, sounds pretty exciting to me if correct.

And this is a road car? Any links?

 

[bmwz4coupe]

He didn’t destroy it. Newey isn’t a God. He can’t operate outside the realm of physics. The cars initial briefing was pixie dust. Fantasy land material. It was never going to weigh so little or pull so hard. Made people on the internet abuzz, though.

Who said he is a god?? If anyone talked about him as a god it was Aston Martin before Stroll took over, this was presented as Newey”s big project. And now Newey is hardly mentioned. It is understandable but quite funny to observe...

 

[KiwiRob]

And this is a road car? Any links?

1,400-HP Toyota Hypercar Won't Be Called The GR Super Sport

A new trademark filing may have confirmed the name of Toyota's Le Mans hypercar.

carbuzz.com

 

[Bridster]

1,400-HP Toyota Hypercar Won't Be Called The GR Super Sport

A new trademark filing may have confirmed the name of Toyota's Le Mans hypercar.

carbuzz.com

While this might be possible, the article doesn't give me a lot of confidence when it comes to the accuracy of the information. A run of road cars is not required to enter the LMH race car under the current rules. If Toyota is doing one, it's a purely commercial decision. In any case, they say that "a recent report claims", but what report are they talking about? A report from Toyota? Where is the link? Where is a quotation? Based on the fact that Toyota recently sent out a questionnaire to potential customers asking them if they would be interested in the car, it seems it's not even certain if the car happens at all. If it does, then - just from looking at the pictures - it will suffer from all the same problems that all the track cars masquerading as road cars suffer from - cramped cabin, poor ingress and egress, limited visibility, harsh ride, minimal ground clearance, etc. So even if it has 1400hp, I am not so sure why I would be excited for that. Maybe it could be slightly interesting from the engineering perspective if it has some new tech, but until some details come out about that, yeah... not interested.

 

[bmwz4coupe]

So it will enter production and start customer deliveries this summer...!...?