SF90 [Official] All-new Ferrari SF90 Stradale

[slicknick]

 

[A.P.]

Silver/grey looks very good on it.

 

[slicknick]

Just got to find out that this car is even cheaper than the current Aventador roadster...
This is why this car is so special, hypercar performance at a not-so-stratospheric price level

 

[WBarnes]

Is that the same car from the end of Page 19.
https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/2020-ferrari-sf90-stradale.59632/page-19#post-963274

 

[slicknick]

Is that the same car from the end of Page 19.
https://www.germancarforum.com/threads/2020-ferr...

Possible, though there might be more than one example in that color combo

 

[WBarnes]

The both looking amazing either way. Best colour by far thus far.

 

[slicknick]

The both looking amazing either way. Best colour by far thus far.

^Looks like a stealth F-22 / F-35 fighter, doesn't it?

 

[mihc]

I forgot about the price. How much will exactly SF90 cost?

 

[slicknick]

Just under $600K in the US, about £400K in the UK, and between €425K and €480K in the Eurozone countries...Don't know about the rest of the world

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Just got to find out that this car is even cheaper than the current Aventador roadster...
Th...

McLaren 720s costs half the price of SF90 and has the same performance. And on top of it it is a beautiful car....

 

[slicknick]

McLaren 720s costs half the price of SF90 and has the same performance.

Erm, not really...Not too far off, but then, neither is the F8

 

[A.P.]

The base starts at "under" $600k, but with Ferrari's option list it will cost closer to a highly speced Senna. A fully loaded SVJ Roadster is around $650k, $700+k with crazy Ad Personam stuff. (like that near 100k ugly paint job lol)

My point is that SF90 Stradale won't be that cheap.

 

[slicknick]

The base starts at "under" $600k, but with Ferrari's option list it will cost closer to a highly...

True, that's the base price, but bear in mind that a highly specced Senna is 1M+

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Erm, not really...Not too far off, but then, neither is the F8

Oh yes, you will have the same performance with 720S, remember that the SF90 is a heavy pig. I don’t understand why many are so exited with having “LaFerrari performance for half the price”, remember that in 2020 This level of performance is no longer so impressive, you can get this performance with a 720S which costs aprox 200k €

 

[slicknick]

Oh yes, you will have the same performance with 720S, remember that the SF90 is a heavy pig...

Well, let me try to reply through some facts, rather than shooting from the hip...That said, let me also state that, for its price point, the 720S is a truly special car indeed...That said, it's not "hypercar performance" per se....It's close, and surely ahead of it's own peers such as the Huracan, the 991 turbo S et al (the 488 was also way behind, though the F8 manages to come close to the 720S)

1) As important as it is, the power to weight ratio is , it's quite simplistic to base a car's performance purely on this aspect...I mean, look at the 918 spyder, which is also a "heavy pig" compared to the P1 and the LaF. How a car delivers power to the road is just as important ...But for the sake of sticking to the subject, let's compare power to weight ratios. The SF90 has 637 ps / 628 bhp per tonne, while this figure is 503 ps/ 496 bhp.

2) Again, acceleration also isn't everything, but for the sake of our subject, let's compare those as well. 0-200 mph (0-124 mph), "factory claims" for each, are 6.7 sec and 7.8 sec respectively. Sure, we need to see the test drives of the SF90 to get the "real world" figures but purely based on factory claims, we know who comes out on top

3) For the track performance, it's best if we see more lap times from various tracks, but it's no easy feat to beat the LaF on a track as short as Fiorano by 0.7 sec, but again, let'swait and see before making presumptions on the performance prospects of the SF90...Until the SF90 is driven by the so-called experts, it's an unproven car, so it's hard to compare it against anything that's already been on the road. So, as I already said about the looks, I suggest reserving the judgment until some road tests come out on prominent magazines, YouTube et al... No point in belittling a car we know very little about...Having said that, do I think the initial info about this car looks encouraging? Oh yes

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Well, let me try to reply through some facts, rather than shooting from the hip...That said,...

We can’t do other than shooting from the hip at this moment since we haven’t seen independent test of the SF90 yet.
The performance (acceleration/ lap time) of the SF90 will be very similar to the LaFerrari if we look at Ferraris own numbers. LaFerrari/P1/918 where all very similar in acceleration and lap times. 720S has beaten all lap times of the holy trinity I think, so I think it is quite clear the SF90 will not be much faster (if faster at all!) than the 720S. But of course, like you say, we have to wait for the independent tests to conclde for sure

 

[slicknick]

We can’t do other than shooting from the hip at this moment since we haven’t seen indep...

True, we have to wait for the real life tests...

Btw, unfortunately the 720S is not the faster around the track than any of the holy trinity (though it's close) as you can see in the link below, even with the same driver (Chris Harris) behind the wheel.

fastestlaps.com/tracks/algarve-international-circuit-portimao

 

[bmwz4coupe]

True, we have to wait for the real life tests...

Btw, unfortunately the 720S is not the fas...

Great job, just quote one circuit where LaFerrari was a couple of tenths faster...(!) What about the other circuits? Do your homework and use the ‘compare’ function in fastestlaps against each of the holy trinity cars and you will see that 720S is fastest in the majority of the circuit.

 

[slicknick]

Great job, just quote one circuit where LaFerrari was a couple of tenths faster...(!) What...

Just found this one first, and this seemed to be one where the driver was the same (a very important factor). Didn't post the others as the drivers seemed to be different, NOT to gloss over data to make any car look better than the other ...
( not to mention, I already love the 720S and have no intention to go on a smear campaign against it, just check my posts from the past about the 720S and you will see)

For the record, the 720S is 11 sec slower in the Nordschleife than the 918 spyder(different drivers but you get the point).

The 720S is a great car, but it was never meant to beat the holy trinity...It's just an extremely capable mid engined supercar, brought against the likes of the Huracan & the 488, and destroyed them with ease

 

[bmwz4coupe]

Just found this one first, and this seemed to be one where the driver was the same (a...

Please try to be a little more serious, most of the other laps are also with same driver, you can’t just choose one circuit which suits you!
By the way the 720S Nurnburgring lap is done by a magazine while the 918 time is done by an official Porsche test driver.... you really didn’t know that the times set by magazine tests are always a lot slower than the manufacteur record laps? It is important to do your homework before talking, I hope you at least learned this....