New design theme, something has changed

some SL familiy interiors. Maybe the new SL? ;)

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Focus Magazin
 
Just change the damm AC/radio controls!!!.
 
Here's a better view. We might see more in the future? ;)


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Daimler

At the 125th anniversary celebration, Mercedes-Benz is rumored to debut its MFA platform.

From Autocar:

The 29 January marks exactly 125 years since Karl Benz was awarded a patent for his Motorwagen and Autocar revealed last year that Mercedes could also reveal details of its Mercedes Front-drive Architecture (MFA) platform that will underpin a new family of A- and B-class models at the celebration evening in Stuttgart.
Our insider revealed that a “whole range” of show cars for the A- and B-class range were planned in the coming months, with a Geneva show debut in March the most likely launch date for the first concepts.
Mercedes kicked off its 125th anniversary celebrations at this year’s Detroit show with a celebration of its innovation with alternatively-fuelled cars, a teaser to the fact its MFA patent is likely to centre around an automobile that can be “powered by petrol, diesel, natural gas, hydrogen and electricity”.
Merc
 
This is a better translation as the previous one was not clear. ;)



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Steffen Köhl, Advanced Design lead Mercedes-Benz, Auto Motor und Sport



New Mercedes-Benz Design


Mercedes will apparently say goodbye to their typical design. For new models a modified design language may be adopted: the cars stand out in future through a long bonnet, short rear end, and flush body-fitted wheels.

"We want to have athletic proportions, surfaces and lines, not brute force, but stylish - like the CLS, " Advanced Design Chief Steffen Köhl told "auto motor und sport". In the current issue he describes, together with Daimler-design chief Gorden Wagener, the new form language, whose first representative will be the C-Class Coupé (C204) expected in 2014. In 2015 the new E-Class (W213) will follow.

"Brute Force is Out"

And the new design language applies to the C-Class as well as the E-and S-Class. Besides long hoods and a flowing silhouette future cars with a star are to have short and arrowed front overhangs and flush fitted large wheels. The Stuttgarters want to say goodbye to extended wheel arches and consideraby lift the shoulder line of the cars towards the rear end. Mercedes models should thus become more style-conscious. Brutal forms, the designers say, are out.

:t-cheers:
 
C-Class Coupe started the "new theme"? It's simply a 2007 Design with two doors? And it's one of my least favorite M-B's to boot. That must be a misprint or misquote or something.

Also, it seems like M-B is reliving how it went from stronger, more brutal forms of the 80's/90's into the more organic/softer forms of the 00's. I'm actually just starting to really warm up to M-B's return to its stronger, "brutal", angular forms, as it keeps the cars actually quite distinct and proud. My complaint about how they implement some of the forms is another story. IMO it seems like they're confused on some cars as to how angular/"brutal"/staunch to go, and you get a kind of halfway smooth, halfway angular look. Maybe that's why they're looking to go back to softer lines so quickly.
 
C-Class Coupe started the "new theme"? It's simply a 2007 Design with two doors? And it's one of my least favorite M-B's to boot. That must be a misprint or misquote or something.

You're being really hard on MB. Seriously. As much as I think BMW's designs have significantly improved in design, they've pulled an Audi. How the hell do I tell a 3 from a 5 or 7? Audi recently stated they would be straying away from this type of design language. MB has come a long way. They are making steady progress and the sales results prove it.
 
Lol, just 'cause I criticize M-B doesn't mean that I like BMW. ;)

I like M-B's designs more than BMW's as a whole, but the C-Coupe is cheap looking and very un-stylish, kind of like a gussied up Accord. IMO the *current* 3-Series looks better than it still.

Aside from that, I agree with you.
 
C-Class Coupe started the "new theme"?

Supposedly that means the C205 expected in 2014, and based on the next generation C-Class (W205), not the current C-Class Coupé (C204) based on the W204 C-Class.
 
Ah, okay, yeah that makes sense. They've said a lot that the W205, not the W222, will reveal the new design idiom. Seems the W222 will be a mixture of W212 into CLS into W205 era.
 
Hopefully this will kick start a return to "classic" designs. In the recent 2 years Mercedes has been rather disoriented in their designs tweaking bumpers and grills with almost every model year. Particularly I dislike the obsessive use of a single slant grill with a massive logo. Luxury can be a bit more discrete than that. The Pre-facelifted W204 C-Class is my favorite exterior design by Merc. It has a classic grill, handsome design and doesn't need an overstyled AMG-kit. It looks great!

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Auto Motor und Sport explained Mercedes design in the January 2011 issue thusly:


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Mercedes optimizes the proportions: in the next few years, Mercedes will clearly continue the trend to new proportions. Not only the sports cars get long bonnets, but the limousines are to feature this style element as well. Therefore the front overhang is shortened considerably and the wheels arranged flush. Extended wheel arches are no longer emphasized. The roof structure, called 'Green House', runs smoothly, and the sides lose their wedge appearance. The so-called 'Dropping Line', where Mercedes relaxes the shoulder towards the rear, gives the car a classic silhouette. Brutal forms, the designers say, are out. Mercedes models are to become more style conscious.
 
Following BMW again it seems....BMW started doing exactly that when they developed the F01 7er years ago.
I just hope they manage to do this without becoming boring and predictable. Because I can really appreciate the bold design as found in e.g. the CLS or new SL.

I hope that by the time MB has implemented this new design, BMW has moved on to the next phase....(or so I hope, because current BMW design is nice but highly boring)
 
Following BMW again it seems...

^^^ That's klier speaking... ;)


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I would like to think Mercedes design is following Bruno Sacco, Friedrich Geiger and Sergio Farina's emphasis on style.


Google translated from a Bruno Sacco interview in 2005

"But "il traffiliare" the turning point in my career was a long conversation with Sergio Farina in 1957, which led me to Mercedes. He gave me a perspective of time already recorded and said: "Automotive Styling is an interesting career, but it may be that you will then end up still not a villa by the sea and a large motor boat." And he has absolutely proved right, I have neither the villa nor the motorboat at the end of my career. Sergio has then also been very positive about Mercedes, then I applied at Mercedes as a stylist.

[...]

If I have the opportunity to say that, I want to emphasize that at this time, our influence was not so serious that we could say: the one or the other and have designed.

[...]

On it's technical committee - never sat a sales person or advertising man - had meetings every week, with at least 20 people and then there were always brought in the respective specialists .... And because there was fighting around 3 millimeters ... What you feel today, is the result of this procedure. That was incredible, and almost pedantic, and it was known even then just about every possible competitor know how it looked with the measurements, which lay on the table. That was the end of the 50s so that was during the 60s, almost a science. Until the mid-70s, when I then became chief of the design as a violinist was - that was then called "stylists department" - I then tried to bring in a bit sloppyness, because the dimensional concept to us, was my feeling, took too much time and We then had little time for design."

Mercedes-Benz Classic Car Club Austria - Google Translate
 
^^ True. MBs have always have a clear and precise design. The latest ones are just a bit off of this. Design, as economy and most other things follows some cycles. Some more experimental, some more conservative.
 
Hopefully this will kick start a return to "classic" designs. In the recent 2 years Mercedes has been rather disoriented in their designs tweaking bumpers and grills with almost every model year. Particularly I dislike the obsessive use of a single slant grill with a massive logo. Luxury can be a bit more discrete than that. The Pre-facelifted W204 C-Class is my favorite exterior design by Merc. It has a classic grill, handsome design and doesn't need an overstyled AMG-kit. It looks great!

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EXACTLY! I love the pre-FL W204: simple and understated; I particulary think Mercedes did great designs from 2005-2009: W219, W221, C216, W204; then came the W212 and things got fuzzier.
I like the sport package W212 a lot, but the ones in classic trim, with those fugly dual fogligths :icon_roll

At that point things got worse and worse: bulky SLK, SL, horrendous B and CLS class and Ssang Yong inspired ML class.

And I don't understand why some people say new design theme with so many lines is "agressive and sporty", you can be sporty and agressive and still have a clean, timeless design. Just look at the Alfa 159.
But then again, an expensive, renowned designer like Giugiaro penned that car, while Mercedes seems reluctant to invest in noted artists and rather hiring cheapo designers. (sadly, a general trend in auto industry, with cars becoming uglier and uglier)

My 2 cents
 
What they're claiming is indeed Mercedes somewhat going back to their roots. Their cars have become incredibly wedge shaped now, but my problem with them "losing that" is that they are doing ANTI WEDGE lines onto wedge-y proportions, a'la CLS, which looks terrible. Mercedes has to understand, if you want to do *Classic Dropping Lines* to emphasis the elegance from half a century ago, then great, but you have to compliment it with the Designs architecture. The CLS to me is a mess because it's got modern Sporty proportions, but then some classic attempted elegant dropping line, which doesn't work. The car needs to have a high, extravagant front end, and the whole theme needs to slope downward, a'la Classic RR's. The new Mercs with Sporty proportions and dropping lines are amateur at best, IMO.

This is why the E-Class, even though it shares the current trend of very complex and brutal forms very much, has more cohesion to me, as it all follows one path: Extreme angled/wedge in all aspects, all focusing and wrapping into the very angular and imposing front end.

And it's true, the Design idiom that Mercedes is claiming to go forth with, is the same that BMW re-started with the F01, save for the dropping lines. Also, the overhangs on current Benzes are quite short, shorter in fact than some current BMW's (who's overhangs are growing). The W212, especially for a Luxury Sedan, has very short overhangs.

I wish M-B would stay with the brutal forms, as it fits M-B so much, and BMW is doing organic elegance and I like the positions that the two are in, in terms of meeting their pasts and futures. I mean, M-B's have always been brutal and imposing, that's what separates them rest from all the copycats. However, where they need to focus on is regaining that simple elegance to COMPLIMENT that, because THAT'S what Mercedes is all about. The CLS would be almost perfect without the side line ruining things, and the B-Class is a disaster. Also, the F800 is a semi-mess. I like the W221/W212/W204 idea, as to me they embody Mercedes, and each can use aspects from the other to balance them out to be more "perfect", however I "get" them.

When I look at the 204, and the 212, I see cars meant to evoke the spirit of the 80's Benzes. The W212 gets a lot more gimmicky than the W204, which is why I like to say that it "looks like a caricature of what a Benz is supposed to look like", which makes it more polarizing, however considering the conservative nature of these cars (Sedans), if it rubs you the right way, it evokes an emotion out of you due to that, that more conventional designs might not.
 

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