My first Ferrari - The 458 Italia


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purplehenk said:
I've read some of mini_cooper4's content. I could be wrong on this, but everything screams bs.
All license plates are blurred, even though there's no official plate on it (like with the Dacias):
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And what about the photos that had supposedly been taken by your employees, but had actually been taken by Swiss dealers as pointed out by DjordjeC63?
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That's what I said I will do. Not what happened.
I never stated anywhere that they took the pictures.
Still. I have no problem with anyone thinking it's BS.
When I get back to Bulgaria I'll even provide proof for the 458 if needed. I don't usually do that and leave people think whatever.
I never state false and never pretend to be the one who takes the pictures. There is even a picture of me next to my e90 on this site so I'm not hiding anything.
I can provide proof for my business too even tho that goes too far.
 
Ok, to prove it, please do following thing:

1. take a piece of paper
2. write on that paper "Germancarforum, Djordje is idiot"
3. put that paper on dash in S65 & 458 and picture it (make 3 pictures from different angles - seats, dials, center console etc.) so that we can clearly see both paper and dash
4. put that paper somewhere on exterior and picture it (also 3 pictures from different angles - rear, front side etc.) so that we can cleary see both paper and part of your car exterior

That would be good proof. I think it would be no problem for you to do it if you really have these cars.
 
mini_cooper4 said:
When I get back to Bulgaria I'll even provide proof for the 458 if needed. I don't usually do that and leave people think whatever.
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You seemed to think that people SHOULD provide proof of ownership based on this post from 20th November 2013 in this thread.

http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/the-art-of-motorsport.49809/page-2

mini_cooper4 said:
Add to that the reminder of what this place used to be when people had to authenticate their car pictures to prove ownership and that they aren't simply talking BS.
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I think you really have to do something to prove it one way or another. There is certainly enough suspicion here that until you do, people will give you no credibility whatsoever.

This also makes me question THIS from your thread about owning part of a BMW dealership, which by chance happened to be near where I'm from in the UK, and where I visit every couple of weeks. However, you refuse to say which one. I wonder why? What risk is it?

http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/officially-with-bmw.51295/#post-708710

mini_cooper4 said:
It's in Leeds area but I prefer not to share that on the internet :)
EDIT: West Yorkshire is what I meant.
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DjordjeC63 said:
Ok, to prove it, please do following thing:

1. take a piece of paper
2. write on that paper "Germancarforum, Djordje is idiot"
3. put that paper on dash in S65 & 458 and picture it (make 3 pictures from different angles - seats, dials, center console etc.) so that we can clearly see both paper and dash
4. put that paper somewhere on exterior and picture it (also 3 pictures from different angles - rear, front side etc.) so that we can cleary see both paper and part of your car exterior

That would be good proof. I think it would be no problem for you to do it if you really have these cars.
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You have my word.
I'm going back to Bulgaria this November I hope.
Will do that the first day I arrive. No need for the idiot stuff.
I do understand that it's time for some proof :)
 
Betty Swollocks said:
You seemed to think that people SHOULD provide proof of ownership based on this post from 20th November 2013 in this thread.

http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/the-art-of-motorsport.49809/page-2





I think you really have to do something to prove it one way or another. There is certainly enough suspicion here that until you do, people will give you no credibility whatsoever.

This also makes me question THIS from your thread about owning part of a BMW dealership, which by chance happened to be near where I'm from in the UK, and where I visit every couple of weeks. However, you refuse to say which one. I wonder why? What risk is it?

http://www.germancarforum.com/community/threads/officially-with-bmw.51295/#post-708710
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Only risk is my father's surname and my privacy.
A proof of ownership of the 458 is coming. I can guarantee that 100%.
May I get banned if I don't
I wonder tho what happens when I prove it...
 
mini_cooper4 said:
You have my word.
I'm going back to Bulgaria this November I hope.
Will do that the first day I arrive. No need for the idiot stuff.
I do understand that it's time for some proof :)
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Hang on. So you are "possibly" going back to Bulgaria in November? So that will give you time to either find a red Ferrari 458 to take a photo of, or hopefully think we've all forgotten about it?

And you've just bought a red Ferrari 458 that you might not even drive in November, and there wasn't a single mention of this before? I think if I'd just bought a 458 but I wasn't going to get to drive it for several months, I would have mentioned that fact.

The plot thickens.......
 
Betty Swollocks said:
Nothing.

As it stands it does look very suspicious, so it's fair to question it.
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To be honest Betty I do understand why people are suspicious. I cannot get angry against anyone.
I don't like kiddy games such as this one and providing proof on some internet forum that I own a crappy car is beyond me.
I WILL do it no doubt. GCF is the ONLY community I care of. I don't care if people think I drive a Ferrari or a Lada but thinking I'm a fraud...
Turning it into a spectacle is what I hate about people around. The reason I even posted an old racing license. Now I'll post proof of ownership of my car too.
S65 is for sale so not sure about it. 458 - 100%
Also mind that my cars are being sold by these companies too. My business doesn't take care of 2nd hand cars.
If anyone disbelieves me owning my company let me know. Here the proof could be even of benefit for some.
Sorry for my arrogance.
 
Betty Swollocks said:
Hang on. So you are "possibly" going back to Bulgaria in November? So that will give you time to either find a red Ferrari 458 to take a photo of, or hopefully think we've all forgotten about it?

And you've just bought a red Ferrari 458 that you might not even drive in November, and there wasn't a single mention of this before? I think if I'd just bought a 458 but I wasn't going to get to drive it for several months, I would have mentioned that fact.

The plot thickens.......
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Yes, Betty I just did that.
Yes, I could find a Ferrari but yet I cannot prove ownership of my company or wait... can I?
If I do that one might think I could possibly be able to buy more than a 458?
Still pictures are coming as soon as I see the car. If that's sooner be it. I'm not changing my plans tho.

PS: I'm pretty drunk BTW.
 
DjordjeC63 said:
Ok, to prove it, please do following thing:

1. take a piece of paper
2. write on that paper "Germancarforum, Djordje is idiot"
3. put that paper on dash in S65 & 458 and picture it (make 3 pictures from different angles - seats, dials, center console etc.) so that we can clearly see both paper and dash
4. put that paper somewhere on exterior and picture it (also 3 pictures from different angles - rear, front side etc.) so that we can cleary see both paper and part of your car exterior

That would be good proof. I think it would be no problem for you to do it if you really have these cars.
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The thing is, on the Internet, even that is not impossible to do if you are really pathological enough and take the time and effort. Between photoshop and scouring enough car showrooms, he could. Which is why I realized asking for proof in the Internet is pretty futile. Having said that, what you posted is pretty damning.

If he is really interested in coming clean, of course, he could meet some one in person. And considering how he now has a dealership in the same town as Betty, it shouldn't be too much trouble. But I am not holding my breath.
 
DjordjeC63 said:
Yeah, he should meet with Betty.
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I shouldn't meet with anyone to be honest. I'm interested in coming clean thus the reason I offer proving more than just car ownership.
I'm not that interested in coming clean to go meet with someone or share other personal info about me. I'm already OK with going too far but not too far.
I can meet with people tho proving something will never be the reason to do so.
 
No you don't have to meet anyone. You also don't have to prove anything. This is the internet, anyone can claim anything. This is not a court of law, you can't commit perjury. But people are also free to think you are a fraud. And no, some funny pics are not going to prove otherwise.
 
I'm in Leeds this weekend. Not sure what it will achieve, as the 458 won't be there, and I won't have much time.

Personally, I've seen enough evidence now to think that things are not exactly as they are made out to be. None of it adds up. The photos of the 458 taken from that Italian website, with the interior shots that don't match up. The dealer sending the wrong photos. The convenient excuses as to why photos aren't forthcoming. The BMW dealer share which by chance is where I'm from, yet no further details are revealed.

Maybe there are some elements of truth in all of this. Maybe he knows someone who has just bought a 458. Maybe his dad runs a car business which has a 458 in stock. It doesn't really matter either way to be honest. I just think it's both funny and sad at the same time.
 
Sunny said:
No you don't have to meet anyone. You also don't have to prove anything. This is the internet, anyone can claim anything. This is not a court of law, you can't commit perjury. But people are also free to think you are a fraud. And no, some funny pics are not going to prove otherwise.
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Take away the funny part then.
I'm not willing to prove something at any cost of course.
But as said before I can still provide proof.
 
May be you should just start with explaining why your Ferrari is for sale in Italy with a different interior? And why your Mercedes is for sale in Canada and your Dacia in Switzerland?

I am sure there is a very reasonable explanation.
 
Sunny said:
May be you should just start with explaining why your Ferrari is for sale in Italy with a different interior? And why your Mercedes is for sale in Canada and your Dacia in Switzerland?

I am sure there is a very reasonable explanation.
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These are pictures sent by the import/export company. S65 is for sale by the same import/export company I bought it from.
All 4 Dacias are the same. These are the pictures we were given by the exact same import/export company.
I don't even know if they are the same cars and it doesn't really bother me.
That's what my employees forwarded to me. As with most of the pictures I post.
I never or rarely take pictures of anything. It's either someone taking a picture of me and my car(as is the case with my E90) or pictures being forwarded to me.
I don't care as long as it is the same car. Most of the cars I buy are with profit on mind and most of them are bought to be resold. The same people I buy cars from are then selling them for me. I can't track everything and I don't really need to.
I had my word and rest my case. Whoever wants proof will get it.
And if it's not enough for some then be it. I don't mind if someone thinks that I don't even own my shoes.
I don't like presumptions and misleading.
I also hate fraud. And yes, no matter how funny and fake my story sounds for some. It's what it is.
I know why people are playing detectives. Happens all the time in life and it has a name for it.
Being suspicious is OK. Doubting me... OK. Making a spectacle out of the whole thing... NOT.
I'm happy some of you are here just to ask the right questions and I do understand why you are suspicious and appreciate your opinion since mine would probably be the same was I on the other side.
 
Why doesn't people want me to show proof that I own a Fiesta ST? :D

Mini, just add a note on the window on your Ferrari that says "F.. off members of GCF" and take a picture ;)
..we had similar case many years ago when people didn't believe a member had a CL65 AMG. In fact it was member Moss's big brother who got misbelieved. But he showed us all wrong.
 

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